Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, August 20, 2012

Astros Submit Uniform Design Changes, Might Change Ballpark

Rather than make all these drastic changes to the Astros, wouldn’t it have been easier to fold the team, and move the A’s to Houston?

There’s one more note from the very bottom of the link above that’s even more interesting than new uniforms:

He also said the Astros are soliciting fans’ opinions on the future of Tal’s Hill in center field and that fans have said “they don’t see a lot of sense in having that 436(-foot fence) in center. We’re looking at a design that would incorporate some other things out there. We could use that space for a lot of different things.”

Tal’s Hill was a design feature meant to echo the incline in the outfield grass at old Crosley Field in Cincinnati. But Crosley’s incline was a natural feature of the terrain; Tal’s Hill was a contrived gimmick. Minute Maid Park—and I have been there—feels as if the people responsible for its design had a committee meeting, at which it was stated, “Everyone think of all thee ballpark quirks you can and we’ll put every single one of them in here!”

If the Astros remove the hill and shorten the center-field dimensions, Minute Maid Park will probably become a hitter’s park, not to mention taking away a “feature” that could someday be dangerous (there’s a flagpole, in play, at the top of the hill).

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: astros, minute maid park, tal's hill

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. dejarouehg Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:04 PM (#4212744)
The hill is an absurd feature but it is an excellent ballpark. One of the most over-amped radar guns in the bigs........or Kyle Farnsworth really could hit 102 on the gun 3 times in a 2003 game.

Then again, I saw Billy Wagner throw a 92 mph slider in the Astrodome. (Maybe that's not an exaggeration.)
   2. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4212795)
Crane ... said the Astros have submitted their redesigned uniforms to MLB for approval. He said the design includes "traditional" elements from past Astros uniforms and "incorporates them in a very modest way. They’re very classy."


I was going to snark on this, but these uniforms are pretty cool. And anyway, I like the clown suits.

If the Astros remove the hill and shorten the center-field dimensions, Minute Maid Park will probably become a hitter's park, not to mention taking away a "feature" that could someday be dangerous (there's a flagpole, in play, at the top of the hill).


I was really surprised to read this. Back in 2000 good old Enron Field had a multi-year park factor of 107. Recently it's been slinking around in the high-90s. What happened?
   3. God Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:52 PM (#4212835)
I think people just built smaller and smaller ballparks.

I love the hill, BTW.
   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:47 PM (#4212951)
Here's what the Astros will be wearing as they move to their new league next year.
   5. Greg Maddux School of Reflexive Profanity Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:52 PM (#4212965)
a “feature” that could someday be dangerous (there’s a flagpole, in play, at the top of the hill).

Uh, the pole isn't what poses the danger any more than benches are what pose the danger in parks that have bullpens in foul territory. When someone is running and not looking where he's going, changing terrain is a hazard. Most players just stumble, but anybody unfortunate enough to reach the hill at a point in his stride that causes him to land heel-first on an extended leg risks going full Napoleon McCallum.


Back in 2000 good old Enron Field had a multi-year park factor of 107. Recently it's been slinking around in the high-90s. What happened?

Change in ground-rule regarding what constituted a home run in left field, in addition to the changing composition of the rest of the league's parks.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:07 PM (#4213214)
fans have said “they don’t see a lot of sense in having that 436(-foot fence) in center

Yeah, they want to see Bogusevic hit warning track flyballs to CF too.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Randy Jones
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogThe Uncertain Timetable for Cord-Cutting in Baseball's Future
(70 - 9:00am, Feb 12)
Last: Random Transaction Generator

NewsblogOTP - 2016 February 8: There’s baseball, politics … and real problems
(1545 - 8:57am, Feb 12)
Last: bunyon

NewsblogDeveloping The baseballr Package For R – The Hardball Times
(3 - 8:45am, Feb 12)
Last: Sean Forman

NewsblogEx-MLB commissioner Bud Selig to teach at Arizona State's law school
(39 - 8:28am, Feb 12)
Last: You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR)

NewsblogThe Crack in the Defensive Spectrum
(43 - 6:55am, Feb 12)
Last: Mudpout

NewsblogKeith Law: 2016 ranking of all 30 farm systems (INSIDER)
(52 - 12:54am, Feb 12)
Last: ReggieThomasLives

NewsblogOT: Soccer Thread - February 2016
(143 - 11:27pm, Feb 11)
Last: frannyzoo

NewsblogLorenzo Cain and A.J. Pollock Sign Atypical Contracts | FanGraphs Baseball
(1 - 10:42pm, Feb 11)
Last: Drexl Spivey

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - February 2016
(707 - 9:19pm, Feb 11)
Last: Athletic Supporter was shiny, now he's all rusted

NewsblogHall of Fame voters exhibit a clear anti-recency bias.
(7 - 8:16pm, Feb 11)
Last: Ulysses S. Fairsmith

NewsblogMLB New data results show high school baseball similar to MLB
(1 - 8:09pm, Feb 11)
Last: Belfry Bob

NewsblogBrian Kenny: HALL OF FAME'S ANTI-RECENCY BIAS
(62 - 7:24pm, Feb 11)
Last: CrosbyBird

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 2-11-2016
(30 - 2:59pm, Feb 11)
Last: vortex of dissipation

NewsblogMLB's top five smartest offseason moves | MLB.com
(27 - 2:06pm, Feb 11)
Last: Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1990 Discussion
(29 - 1:36pm, Feb 11)
Last: ThickieDon

Page rendered in 0.1650 seconds
47 querie(s) executed