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Monday, March 10, 2014

Axisa: Braves’ Kris Medlen leaves game with right forearm strain

UPDATE: Medlen has been diagnosed with a right forearm strain, the Braves announced. He will be examined further on Monday. Forearm strains are known to be indicators of an elbow problem.

Video at the link. I’ve seen this movie before. It never ends well.

Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 10, 2014 at 10:43 AM | 48 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: March 10, 2014 at 01:40 PM (#4669056)
Uh-oh. Never good when this happens...even to someone who plays for a divisional rival.
   2. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 10, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4669059)
Fredi Gonzalez made optimistic noises after the game, though obviously those aren't worth much.
   3. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 10, 2014 at 02:05 PM (#4669076)
They just acquired Zach Stewart from the White Sox this morning; everything's under control.
   4. Jick Posted: March 10, 2014 at 02:19 PM (#4669079)
The Curse of Cobb County claims its first victim.
   5. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: March 10, 2014 at 02:24 PM (#4669083)
Forearm strains are known to be indicators of an elbow problem.


And "elbow problem" is known to be an indicator of a torn UCL.

Kris Medlen, meet Dr. Andrews. Dr. Andrews, Kris Medlen. This here is Dr. Andrews' scalpel...
   6. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: March 10, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4669090)
Kris Medlen, meet Dr. Andrews. Dr. Andrews, Kris Medlen. This here is Dr. Andrews' scalpel...

They've already all been formally introduced -- Dr. Andrews and his scalpel performed TJ surgery on Medlen back in 2010.
   7. McCoy Posted: March 10, 2014 at 02:57 PM (#4669100)
That's 3 months in OOTP. It always seems I have one regular on my roster go down with a long term injury in spring training in that game. It has gotten to the point where I don't even want to play my regulars during ST.
   8. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4669105)
He already did this, check the warranty. The Braves should negotiate some sort of volume discount.
   9. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4669110)
And now Brandon Beachy has left his start with "bicep tightness."
   10. Nasty Nate Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4669115)
The Braves would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those medlen kids...


I'll show myself out.
   11. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4669122)
It's never a good idea getting into business with the Medlen cartel.
   12. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:36 PM (#4669124)
So if Medlen and Beachy are out to start the year, they're looking at...

Minor
Teheran
Alex Wood
Freddy Garcia
...David Hale?
   13. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:40 PM (#4669129)
Minor might not be ready to start the season, though they won't need a fifth starter for about 10 days. The hope is he can slot in there. If so, yes, you've got it.

On the other hand, the AJC's beat writer just said on Twitter he heard the Braves were making a move on Ervin Santana.
   14. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:47 PM (#4669132)
On the other hand, the AJC's beat writer just said on Twitter he heard the Braves were making a move on Ervin Santana.

Well, my city's beat writer just said my team is making a move on Ervin Santana too. So, there!
   15. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 10, 2014 at 03:51 PM (#4669136)
To ditto-head @13, Mike Minor is behind schedule due to recovery lag from some sort of penis surgery* he had in December. When he did start throwing, he had shoulder soreness. He's questionable to start the year. It's a 50/50 if he slots in as the fifth starter or starts the year on the 15 day DL.

The Braves opening day rotation, sans Medlen and Beachy, would look something like Davo's @12.

Teheran
Freddie Garcia
Alex Wood
David Hale
That Stewart guy they just traded for?

   16. Lassus Posted: March 10, 2014 at 04:00 PM (#4669143)
So you're saying the Mets have a chance?
   17. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 10, 2014 at 04:18 PM (#4669155)
So you're saying the Mets have a chance?


Let's not be stupid.
   18. dr. scott Posted: March 10, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4669161)
so penis surgery, and then shoulder stiffness... seems like he was pushing that surgery recovery a bit too fast...
   19. SteveM. Posted: March 10, 2014 at 05:25 PM (#4669184)
This is yet again evidence that you can never, ever, have too much pitching.
   20. zonk Posted: March 10, 2014 at 05:28 PM (#4669186)
Casey Coleman is available.
   21. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 10, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4669196)
so penis surgery, and then shoulder stiffness... seems like he was pushing that surgery recovery a bit too fast...


If this was football, they would have described Minor as being "out with a penis."
   22. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 10, 2014 at 05:54 PM (#4669201)
If BJ Upton struggles early with his hitting maybe he could convert. He has a hell of an arm!
   23. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: March 10, 2014 at 07:09 PM (#4669239)
If this was football, they would have described Minor as being "out with a penis."

Hopefully that's not as painful as the bulging dick in Maurice Hurst's neck.
   24. bobm Posted: March 10, 2014 at 07:46 PM (#4669251)
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baseball/braves-minor-gets-late-start-after-offseason-medic/ndZwC/?nmredir=true

Minor, 26, had a cystoscopy performed Dec. 31 by a specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, after having difficulty urinating for the past two years. He had visited multiple urologists and other specialists in that period, and none could figure out what was causing the problem.

It worsened to the point where he had to go to the emergency room, and a specialist at Vanderbilt said he had scar tissue built up inside his urethra that would have to be removed via the cystoscopy. He was told there was a 50 percent chance that it could return at some point, and that it was impossible to predict when.
   25. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 10, 2014 at 08:49 PM (#4669269)
If a narrow urethra ends his career in baseball he can always fall back on selling propane and propane accessories.
   26. sinicalypse Posted: March 11, 2014 at 09:38 AM (#4669406)
penis surgery and then shoulder soreness for mike minor? a team of writers couldn't come up with this stuff.

welp, i suppose that leaves the onus on teheran to take 2-3 steps forward from his very solid year last year and hearken that one dennis green press conference from when the cardinals played the bears. alex wood started off nicely but then that whole ~1.33 WHIP caught up with him as he ballooned towards a 4.00 ERA.... and uh, where's paul maholm when you need him, eh?

suffice to say, if mike minor can get back up to speed and be the pitcher he's been since the 2nd half of the 2012 season at least they've got some good solid workmanlike 3.00-3.50 ERA stuff up top.... hope this is more precautionary for medlen, although i'll still never understand why my fantasy baseball nemesis decided to keep medlen over bumgarner heading into the 2013 draft. ah well yahoo ranks my guy bummy with my unlucky # of 36, so maybe he's about due to explode this year... or have another unfortunate season like.... was it 2011 or 2012 where he couldn't buy a win for most of the season? idk. either way it's a pleasure to watch the kid work as he lived up to my claims of being the best pitcher on the giants (which was exacerbated by matt cain's fall from grace last season)

ah well, this being the braves i'm sure whatever kids/moves they bring-up/make will step in and have surprising years, see javvy vazquez's 1yr siesta in atlanta, which i believe was 2010, before he made an ill-fated return to the bronx and then decided to retire at age 34 with ~125-150mil earned throughout his career. nice work if you can get it.
   27. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: March 11, 2014 at 10:15 AM (#4669429)
Relax, it's only minor surgery.
   28. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 11, 2014 at 10:47 AM (#4669457)
Beachy out with "tightness in his bicep."
   29. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4669467)
And the big news from Medlen's MRI is...they're going to look at it again! Apparently there's "some involvement of the ligament."

Andrews is going to examine the MRI.
   30. deputydrew Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4669531)
MLB.com is reporting the MRI showed damage around the UCL. It's apparently hard to determine the severity, given the scar tissue from the prior surgery. They're still reviewing.

What are the odds he escapes a second TMJ in the next 12 months? 10-1?

(Bummed as I traded a boatload to get him in my Strat league...)
   31. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4669534)
This thread is yet another example which helps explain why teams are willing to pay pretty "average" starting pitchers so much money. The ability to stay healthy, make 30 starts, and pitch 175+ innings every year, once demonstrated over a period of years, puts a pitcher in a pretty exclusive category.

Throwing a baseball "overhand" hard, and with your arm and wrist twisting to create movement, and then doing it a lot, is not a natural motion for most human beings...
   32. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM (#4669535)
At this point you have to assume Medlen is out for the season. And honestly, until Brandon Beachy breaks 85 MPH again, he's not to be assumed either. They really should sign Ervin Santana. League average #3 is better than a back half of Garcia/Hale/Aaron Northcraft.
   33. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4669549)
It has been pointed out to me elsewhere that I have forgotten the existence of Alex Wood. That is true. So update the assumed no-Medlen, no-Beachy rotation:

Teheran/Minor/Garcia/Wood/Hale, with Gav Floyd in the wings.
   34. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4669550)
Yeah. I think you can grit your teeth and bull your way through April with the rotation in #12 if Medlen is only out for a month or so. It's the farthest thing from ideal, but you might be able to get four or five savvy veteran starts from Garcia early in the season and a few good battles from Hale until the reinforcements arrive. If you hit the ball well, April doesn't have to be a disaster.

But if Medlen is gone for the season and Beachy is on some sort of indefinite "kinda hurt, kinda just sucks thanks to previous injuries" leave and you go into the season with that rotation, your only hope is, "Maybe Gavin Floyd will come back in May." That's not going to work out. At that point you have to make a decision on how much you're willing to invest in the 2014 season. And I think the Braves are in a pretty committed win-now stance.
   35. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4669552)
Clayton Richard is supposedly healthy and ready to go, right? He's not great, but probably better than Stewart.
   36. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: March 11, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4669557)
Zach Stewart wasn't good enough to pitch for the 2012 Red Sox...and that was a pretty bad team...
   37. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 11, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4669583)
While perusing the list of free agent pitchers still out there, I was floored to discover that Jair Jurrjens is only 28.
   38. Cowboy Popup Posted: March 11, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4669596)
What do you Braves fans expect out of Wood this year?
   39. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 11, 2014 at 01:39 PM (#4669599)
While perusing the list of free agent pitchers still out there, I was floored to discover that Jair Jurrjens is only 28.


I'm floored he's still a FA and Dayton Moore hasn't tried to sign him.
   40. Greg K Posted: March 11, 2014 at 01:58 PM (#4669613)
Speaking of pitching injuries, apparently the Angels have released Mark Mulder after his Achilles exploded during training. Kind of a bummer end to that comeback story. Had he pitched at all yet this spring?
   41. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 11, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4669616)
Speaking of pitching injuries, apparently the Angels have released Mark Mulder after his Achilles exploded during training. Kind of a bummer end to that comeback story. Had he pitched at all yet this spring?


Not in a game, no.

Has anyone been retired for 3+ years and had a successful comeback?
   42. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 11, 2014 at 02:14 PM (#4669620)
Has anyone been retired for 3+ years and had a successful comeback?


Sugar Ray Leonard?

Heck, now that I'm thinking about it, Benny Leonard, the Ghetto Wizard!
   43. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 11, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4669631)
While perusing the list of free agent pitchers still out there, I was floored to discover that Jair Jurrjens is only 28.


If it makes you feel any better, he has the arm of a 50-year-old.
   44. Lassus Posted: March 11, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4669639)
At this point you have to assume Medlen is out for the season. And honestly, until Brandon Beachy breaks 85 MPH again, he's not to be assumed either.

"The light is winning."
   45. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 11, 2014 at 03:07 PM (#4669656)
"The light is winning."


You say that now, but wait until Freddy Garcia puts up a 2001 John Burkett season, Rusty.
   46. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 11, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4669662)
At this point you have to assume Medlen is out for the season.

But Stephen Strasburg lives!
   47. PeteF3 Posted: March 11, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4669671)
Has anyone been retired for 3+ years and had a successful comeback?


Jose Rijo pitched in the majors while his name was on the Hall of Fame ballot.
   48. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: March 11, 2014 at 03:28 PM (#4669681)
"The light is winning."


Back in your box, Childress.

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