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Tuesday, October 09, 2012

AZ Central Bickley: Baseball has failed Miguel Cabrera

Miguel Cabrera won the Triple Crown.  Do you know how hard that is?

Three horses won the Triple Crown since the last baseball player accomplished the feat in 1967 (Boston’s Carl Yastrzemski).

So why is the reaction to Cabrera so understated?

Is it because he’s Latino, a stranger to America’s celebrity culture? Is it his off-field issues, his history with alcohol?  Or is it the general skepticism baseball fans now feel toward any significant individual achievement?

shoewizard Posted: October 09, 2012 at 06:01 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greg Schuler Posted: October 09, 2012 at 08:33 AM (#4260223)
Is it a big deal since traditional counting stats are devalued day by day? That and racism - always racism.
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: October 09, 2012 at 08:38 AM (#4260225)
is there a contest on who can write the dumbest article concerning cabrera/trout?

i am really asking because some of the stuff being posted is pretty bizarre
   3. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 09, 2012 at 08:39 AM (#4260227)
is there a contest on who can write the dumbest article concerning cabrera/trout?


Not anymore there isn't!
   4. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: October 09, 2012 at 08:56 AM (#4260239)
But baseball been berry berry good to heem!
   5. Topher Posted: October 09, 2012 at 08:58 AM (#4260242)
Except that this has nothing to do with Cabrera/Trout. It's about why this historic achievement is not getting more attention and why he isn't being celebrated by a greater audience. Maybe a stretch, but I think he's wondering why Cabrera hasn't broken through to the mainstream and isn't getting to do stuff like be on the cover of People magazine and do the talk show circuit.

As to the (relative) lack of attention, I'd note that most folks were too busy refreshing the waiver wires of their multiple fantasy football leagues to spend much time focusing on the triple crown. Well that and racism.
   6. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: October 09, 2012 at 09:03 AM (#4260247)
Well, he's not doing a bunch of media right now because he's a tad busy.

Also, his English isn't particularly great. Talk show appearances aren't booked based on merit, they're booked based on who will draw and keep viewers. A guy who's struggling to have a conversation in English is going to be a brutal interview in a talk show format.
   7. TomH Posted: October 09, 2012 at 09:36 AM (#4260268)
MLB treats alcohol issues (hello Mr LaRussa), including drunk driving which kills people, a lot lighter than racist or phobic statements, a lot lighter than pro-Nazi quotes, and a lot lighter than PEDs. None of which have killed anyone AFAIK. What if baseball gave players 80 games off and managers a year off (after all, they are the real role models, right?) for drunk driving offenses?

Agree, dumb article.
   8. McCoy Posted: October 09, 2012 at 09:43 AM (#4260272)
a lot lighter than pro-Nazi quotes

I think pro-Nazi has killed a few people. Also, ephedra says hello.
   9. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: October 09, 2012 at 09:59 AM (#4260286)
The best part of the article is that there's a comment from Shawn Boskie under it.
   10. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 09, 2012 at 10:56 AM (#4260371)
I haven't heard Miggy complaining about the lack of adultation related to his Triple Crown. He apparently didn't think it was a big deal at all. But thanks to the writer, desperately searching for an article, to drag race into it. We all know how Derek Jeter has toiled in obscurity all these years because of his race.
   11. Shredder Posted: October 09, 2012 at 10:57 AM (#4260373)
What's the relative popularity of baseball vs. football now compared to what it was in 1967?
   12. hokieneer Posted: October 09, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4260386)
So why is the reaction to Cabrera so understated?


Is it?

I got back into collecting cards in '04-06, and the two people I was "investing" in was Miggy and Kemp. From Wed-Fri. night on ebay I was able to sell most cards at 2x-3x the value I paid for them. You also have to factor in that overall the card collecting market is significantly less than what it was 6-10 years ago because of the economy. Collections are one of the first things to go.

After that initial spike, the Miggy market has settled some, but most RC, auto, and other high priced relics are still being sold for close to 2x what they were 7-8 years ago.
   13. Bug Selig Posted: October 09, 2012 at 12:01 PM (#4260436)
We all know how Derek Jeter has toiled in obscurity all these years because of his race.


He's been my favorite Hispanic player for a long time.
   14. valuearbitrageur Posted: October 09, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4260485)
We all know how Derek Jeter has toiled in obscurity all these years because of his race.


I hear people talking about god every day.
   15. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: October 09, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4260488)
Jeter only speaks whatever language they speak in Michigan.
   16. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 09, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4260575)
Jeter only speaks whatever language they speak in Michigan


That flat Midwest thing kind of like Minnesota but without all the "oooooo"s
   17. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 09, 2012 at 02:05 PM (#4260597)
Also, his English isn't particularly great. Talk show appearances aren't booked based on merit, they're booked based on who will draw and keep viewers. A guy who's struggling to have a conversation in English is going to be a brutal interview in a talk show format.


This hurdle has not prevented the MLB Network from giving Omar Vizquel an analyst job this post-season.
   18. Tippecanoe Posted: October 09, 2012 at 03:30 PM (#4260708)
That flat Midwest thing kind of like Minnesota but without all the "oooooo"s


The Northern Cities Vowel Shift? It applies to Minneapolis, but not rural MN. Doesn't stop until you get past Syracuse.

Cabrera is going to probably be awarded the MVP without being the league's best player. That seems like some nice recognition.
   19. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: October 10, 2012 at 05:04 AM (#4261446)
So why is the reaction to Cabrera so understated?

I'll take "Because He Wears An Olde English D On His Chest And Not Pinstripes" for $500, Alex.

Jeter only speaks whatever language they speak in Michigan

That flat Midwest thing kind of like Minnesota but without all the "oooooo"s


I've always felt that my Michigander (non-)accent has aided me in my chequered broadcasting career. I sound like I'm from nowhere, which comes in handy if you're reading the news and don't want to distract listeners with a strong accent. (Especially heah in Noo Yawk!)
   20. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 10, 2012 at 08:13 AM (#4261468)
We've gotten a lot of Midwesterners here in Philly doing our news and it irks me for some reason to hear the capital of NJ pronounced "trint-ton". It's "TREN-ton" or if you want to give it a Northeast Philly sound, "TRENT'n".

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