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Monday, April 28, 2014

Back Pace of Play Mark Buehrle Is a One-Man Baseball-Game Accelerator

Since 2008, the first year for which FanGraphs has reliable data, Buehrle has been, by far, baseball’s fastest worker between pitches. Over nearly 1,300 innings, he’s averaged 16.7 seconds between pitches. The next fastest pitcher with at least 150 innings pitched, Ben Sheets, averaged 18 seconds. The major-league average has been 21.8 seconds.

If we assume he was 5.1 seconds faster in delivering each pitch during his career, then he’s spared baseball fans nearly 63 hours of dead time between pitches, and cut between 1.6 and two minutes from his team’s average game length each year since his first full season, in 2001. That’s over all of his team’s games, not just the ones he’s pitched.

 

 

Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 28, 2014 at 04:15 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. KT's Pot Arb Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:32 PM (#4696117)
The problem is even if the baseball part of the inning goes by super fast, you still have to sit through the same 4 minutes minutes of commercials to see less baseball.
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4696123)
The problem is even if the baseball part of the inning goes by super fast, you still have to sit through the same 4 minutes minutes of commercials to see less baseball.


That is part of doing business in this day and age, you aren't going to fix that problem. We are used to those commercial breaks, and time our "breaks" along with them, but it's the in game pacing issue that seems to have everyone up in arms. I think the fact that MLB broadcast is so crappily directed, hasn't helped that perception either, but enforcement of staying in the box, or speeding up delivery times would help make the pace feel more action packed.

   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:51 PM (#4696132)
. . . it's the in game pacing issue that seems to have everyone up in arms.

What's the rush? What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball? More opportunity to chat about the game isn't so bad. And if you're at home watching alone on TV, you can always log-in to BBTF and multi-task.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 28, 2014 at 05:56 PM (#4696137)
you still have to sit through the same 4 minutes minutes of commercials to see less baseball.


No, you don't see less baseball, you see less of baseball players not playing baseball, but instead wandering or stomping around the pitcher's mound, doing the ritual where their batting gloves can never be tight enough, etc. etc. etc.

What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball?


I don't think "watching Major League Baseball players perform time-wasting rituals rather than playing" fits the bill.

   5. catomi01 Posted: April 28, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4696176)
What's the rush? What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball? More opportunity to chat about the game isn't so bad. And if you're at home watching alone on TV, you can always log-in to BBTF and multi-task.


I agree with this - but I also spent a saturday morning earlier this month watching a 9-4 Atlantic League Spring Training game for 3 hours in a near empty stadium.
   6. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:25 PM (#4696207)
What's the rush? What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball?


Why Clapper, everyone needs to be on their phone, both at home and whilst at the game...
   7. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 28, 2014 at 08:42 PM (#4696222)

The problem is even if the baseball part of the inning goes by super fast, you still have to sit through the same 4 minutes minutes of commercials to see less baseball.

I have to think if the games were meaningfully shorter people would begin to get fed up with the amount of commercial time, too.
   8. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: April 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM (#4696321)
What's the rush? What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball?

Depends on the time of day. If "prime time"'s beginning were pushed up from 8 to 7 for postseason games, there'd be a lot fewer complaints about people having to stay up past midnight when they have to work the next morning.
   9. KT's Pot Arb Posted: April 29, 2014 at 02:13 AM (#4696381)
What's the rush? What are people doing that's more important or more fun than watching Major League Baseball? More opportunity to chat about the game isn't so bad. And if you're at home watching alone on TV, you can always log-in to BBTF and multi-task.


Imagine how good MLB games would be if they eliminated the baseball entirely so we could browse the internet and watch commercials the entire time!
   10. DL from MN Posted: April 29, 2014 at 09:54 AM (#4696491)
Back to baseball - which career would you rather have - Cliff Lee or Mark Buehrle?
   11. Greg K Posted: April 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM (#4696500)
Lee is one of my favourite players of the past decade...but I think I'd take Buehrle, those 800 more innings are pretty huge. With the caveat that I think Lee has more left in the tank. I think by the time they are both retired I'll switch to Lee.
   12. Karl from NY Posted: April 29, 2014 at 03:12 PM (#4696823)
Depends on the time of day. If "prime time"'s beginning were pushed up from 8 to 7 for postseason games, there'd be a lot fewer complaints about people having to stay up past midnight when they have to work the next morning.

To be replaced by the complaints from Left Coasters that they miss half the game before getting home from work. They may not even bother tuning in for the rest. The 8:27 pm starts are carefully balanced between the extreme time zones.
   13. DL from MN Posted: April 29, 2014 at 03:48 PM (#4696880)
they miss half the game before getting home from work


So listen to the first couple innings in the car on the way home.
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 29, 2014 at 04:03 PM (#4696903)

So listen to the first couple innings in the car on the way home.


The DVR era does make an earlier start time a little more sensible for these national games. West Coast fans can DVR the start then catch up during the contest. That option doesn't really exist for East Coast fans (I suppose you can wake up super early and watch last night's game, though that doesn't strike me as too likely to happen).
   15. thetailor Posted: April 29, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4696918)
Between innings is annoying, but when else are you going to use the bathroom, check your phone, go buy beer, etc.?

I have never ever had a problem with the pace of play. If I'm with someone super-knowledgeable about baseball, we discuss the finer points. If I'm with my Dad, I catch him up on who all the new guys are. If I'm with an acquaintance we catch up on life. If I'm with my girlfriend, I explain what is happening.

Dead time for no reason is bad, but as pointed out above, delays between pitches is nothing compared to between innings, and all the delays are good for something.
   16. They paved Misirlou, put up a parking lot Posted: April 29, 2014 at 04:28 PM (#4696937)
Lee is one of my favourite players of the past decade...but I think I'd take Buehrle, those 800 more innings are pretty huge. With the caveat that I think Lee has more left in the tank. I think by the time they are both retired I'll switch to Lee.


FWIW, buehrle beats Lee in WAR 55-43. That said, Lee has a better chance for the HOF (slim vs none), unless Buehrle can go all Jamie Moyer and rack up another 150 or so wins.
   17. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 29, 2014 at 04:40 PM (#4696947)
unless Buehrle can go all Jamie Moyer and rack up another 150 or so wins.


I think 110 would do the trick. And that isn't out of the question.
   18. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: April 29, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4696970)
Back to baseball - which career would you rather have - Cliff Lee or Mark Buehrle?

Buehrle's got a World Series ring, perfect game and a no-hitter. I'd take that career without looking at the rest of the baseball card.
   19. DL from MN Posted: April 29, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4696981)
I think Buehrle has a shot with 60 more wins. As mentioned he has some highlights of note.
   20. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: April 29, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4697106)
Buehrle has 13 straight 200 IP seasons. That...seems like a lot.

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