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Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Baggarly: Lincecum adds slider, but still at his worst in the first

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Yet Lincecum also ruminated on the subject of control, and accepting what is out of his sphere of influence.

“Yeah, sometimes you over-think,” he said. “You’re like, `Well, maybe I should stop worrying about things I can’t control.’ And there are times out there where you’re trying to control everything because as a pitcher the game starts with you.

“It’s the fine line of letting your defense do the work and controlling what you can control and eliminating the rest.”

All of this was so much easier when Lincecum was throwing 94-96 mph and was leading the league in strikeouts. He was at 90-92 mph in that stressful first inning, and worked anywhere from 89-91 after that. To strike out the same number of batters, it stands to reason that he’ll need to expand the zone. But that’s a temptation he finds himself resisting, too.

“Definitely, it’s making those better two-strike pitches,” Lincecum said. “In the back of my mind I think I can’t waste too many pitches because I’m aware that I walked a s—-load of batters last year. So it’s that fine line of knowing when you can throw a bad pitch or a waste pitch, and I’m still learning that.”

Repoz Posted: April 17, 2012 at 04:57 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Chase Insteadman Wannabe Posted: April 17, 2012 at 12:53 PM (#4108903)
Alas, poor Linc'cum! I knew him, BBTF; a fellow of infinite heat, and most excellent change-up; he hath borne the Giants on his back for years; and now, how painful it is to see him struggle! My gorge rises at it. There hangs the arm that has struck out how many I know not. Where be your stuff now?
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: April 17, 2012 at 01:24 PM (#4108940)
“Yeah, sometimes you over-think,” he said. “You’re like, `Well, maybe I should stop worrying about things I can’t control.’ And there are times out there where you’re trying to control everything because as a pitcher the game starts with you.

“It’s the fine line of letting your defense do the work and controlling what you can control and eliminating the rest.”


Mickey Rivers can straighten him out
   3. tshipman Posted: April 17, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4108944)
All of this was so much easier when Lincecum was throwing 94-96 mph and was leading the league in strikeouts.

Strikeouts, 2011 National League

1. Kershaw (LAD) 248
2. Lee (PHI) 238
3. Halladay (PHI) 220
Lincecum (SFG) 220

Strikeouts, 2010 National League

1. Lincecum (SFG) 231
2. Halladay (PHI) 219
3. Jimenez (COL) 214

Yes ... strikeouts are the problem.
   4. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 17, 2012 at 01:40 PM (#4108952)
granted, it's an absurdly small sample size, but he's at 10.5 K's/9 which would match his career high. His problem this year is that he's at 14.5 H/9
   5. Dan Posted: April 17, 2012 at 02:17 PM (#4108991)
10.5 K/9 is less impressive when you're facing 5 batters per inning. His K% is about a % down from last year though, which isn't a big deal, but he's not really striking out MORE guys like K/9 would imply.

The issue is the 29.2% LD rate. While that's unsustainably bad, even with regression it could be an issue if his stuff is going to stay this flat.
   6. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: April 17, 2012 at 02:51 PM (#4109016)
16 K, 4 BB, 2 HR. He's getting destroyed on balls in play. He'll be fine.
   7. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 17, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4109020)
He's getting destroyed on balls in play

.435 BABIP--yikes!
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 17, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4109023)
He's getting destroyed on balls in play. He'll be fine.

29.2% LD rate suggests that's not all luck. If you're grooving meatballs, DIPS theory won't save you.
   9. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: April 17, 2012 at 03:06 PM (#4109027)
You probably won't strike out 16 "grooving meatballs".

This early in the season, with a pitcher with a long history of excellence, a crazy high BABIP or LD% has to be assumed to be a fluke.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 17, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4109032)
You probably won't strike out 16 "grooving meatballs".

This early in the season, with a pitcher with a long history of excellence, a crazy high BABIP or LD% has to be assumed to be a fluke.


With his velocity down 1.9 MPH from last year? By eyeball the worst 3 game stretch of his career?

If you're living up in the zone, with a diminished fast ball, you could easily see a lot of Ks and a lot of frozen ropes.
   11. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 17, 2012 at 03:12 PM (#4109033)
29.2% LD rate
10.5 K's/9


This makes me think he's still got great stuff but he's been a bit predictable. Guys are guessing right more often and hitting him hard but when they don't guess right they still have no chance. If he didn't have great stuff he wouldn't be notching the Ks at a high rate (and to Dan's point the K rate is still very very good even if it's down a bit).
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 17, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4109037)
If he didn't have great stuff he wouldn't be notching the Ks at a high rate (and to Dan's point the K rate is still very very good even if it's down a bit).

The problem is, his velocity is way down. I'm guessing injury.

Paging Dr. Andrews, Dr. Jobe, Dr. Howard...
   13. zachtoma Posted: April 17, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4109130)
The problem is, his velocity is way down. I'm guessing injury.

Paging Dr. Andrews, Dr. Jobe, Dr. Howard...


The velocity thing is so overplayed. His big velocity drop happened about three years ago, he's not that far off of his 2010 (91.2 mph). It's a small sample thus far and I'm inclined to think it's a minor mechanical issue that he will work out as the year goes on. He only really had plus-speed on his fastball in '07-'08 when he was throwing 2/3rds fastballs - he's been mixing in a two-seamer and slider since then.

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