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1. Esoteric Posted: September 14, 2009 at 04:48 AM (#3321025)An argument against either of these points is inconceivable.
I've been lucky enough to see you play since '94 (though I may have accidently caught you in a game in '92 as well), and saw dozens of Blue Wave games till you went to the Majors, and it's been nothing but fun - without a single disappointment - the entire run.
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He's not the "best" player today, nor the "best" in the AL. He's easily among the very best, for nine seasons now, with more very likely to come. He's arguably the most fun to watch, even more arguably the most unique (Pujols' stark greatness is the only thing that challenges, for me), and unarguably the funniest intelligent great player of his time (and maybe ever).
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Thanks, again!
You had to bring up Ichiro and singles, didn't you.
How can you possibly be in the shadow of a guy who played 100 years ago, maybe 10% of baseball fans even know the name of and maybe 2% could have told you he held this record?
"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me. I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out.”
</Massive Pedantry>
Keeler used to use a bat that had a flat surface on one side. I don't know if it was during or after his career that it was prohibited.
Well, he was "Wee" Willie, he was small, so yes he is in the shadow.
Somor Massive Pedantry?
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I couldn't believe this was a real quote... but it is. Ichiro's quotes are worth 10 WAR.
Pujols is unique and so is Ichiro--the qualities that make each unique are utterly different. Saying Ichiro is "more unqiue" than Pujols could be taken to mean that it is even less likely that someone similar to Ichiro will ever appear, and thus render him no longer unique, than it is that someone similar to Pujols will appear. Or that it is easier to construct an argument that Pujols is not really unique, because there are more players in history who are similar, and thus one could construct a plausible argument challenging Pujols's putative uniqueness, whereas it would be more difficult to construct such an argument regarding Ichiro.
These would seem to be perfectly reasonable, logical justifications for such phrases as "more unqiue" or even "most unique."
Hall of Fame? Pfui. Ichiro! belongs in the Hall of Teh Totally AWESOME!!!eleventy!! along with Brian Boitano, Ernie Harwell, Marnie McPhail, and that guy in Napoleon Dynamite.
Nice. In your face, pedantically illiterate #######.
Wouldn't two things which are both unique, have to be, by definition, unique in different ways?
because there is no such thing as "less unique" is a perfectly acceptable way to finish that sentence. In fact, the most acceptable. They could have not have picked a worse example of usage, and the choice is so egregious that I call shenanigans. Intentional shenanigans on American Heritage.
http://www.stevemandich.com/otherstuff/ichiro.htm
Another quote I hadn't seen before:
You know, American ballplayers really do retain more dignity than the Japanese once they hit superstardom. Look at some of those goofy promotion pictures and then try to picture a 2001 Barry Bonds wearing a lei a second base.
Au contraire! Barry Bonds in 2006
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face."
"Although it is a tradition to shake hands in America, people don't wash their hands when they go to the bathroom."
When Ichiro first arrived in Seattle, he refused to divulge [his dog] Ikkyu's name to the media: "I would not wish to say without first asking his permission."
"The fashion sense Americans have is a crime."
It is rather annoying, though, that the site seems to contain no mention of Ichiro's 1993 stint with the Hilo Stars of the (now defunct) Hawaii Winter Baseball League.
Through the posting system, the Seattle Mariners won the right to negotiate with him, and on November 18, 2000, the M's signed him to a three-year, $14 million contract
Good God. Let's see, an MVP, a batting title (and Silver Slugger), 3 Gold Gloves, 121 steals at just under 80%, at least 157 games per season, .328 average for the three years, 119 OPS+, and finally bbref's FRAA has him going 15/-1/23.
Best contract of the decade? I'll throw down the gauntlet for someone to name one better. And no, Pujols or anyone else pre-arb doesn't count.
$13.1 million to the BlueWave. Which drives the cost up to $9 million per season. That's still a bargain, but not the outlandish one I was seeing.
I don't know what to do here, do I pick the gauntlet back up? Shove it off to the side with my foot?
For the mega contract category, I'd go with Randy Johnson. 4 years, 53 Mil. He gave them 4 CYAs plus a WS MVP. Over 1,000 innings of 188 ERA+ and over 1400 strikeouts.
2014: Ichiro would set the record with 14 career 200-hit seasons. With at least 3,005 hits in his MLB career, plus 1,278 hits in his NPB career, he would have 4,283 career hits, passing Pete Rose's MLB career mark of 4,255 (and Julio Franco's international career record of 4,229 career hits).
I have never heard the slightest mention of this Franco record.
Also:
Though Rose's MLB record appears out of reach
Understatement of the year.
"When a person gives a gift to another, it is expected the gift will be treated well. But baseball players throw and kick their baseball gloves that have been given to them by makers of baseball equipment. I feel that is a contradiction... Equipment -- bats, glove, and spikes -- should look cool and get kids who play baseball want to wear them."
You've got some mildly Zen sounding stuff in there, and the latter part is probably the most intelligent comment on baseball as a business from someone in the sport (the sport known for "Our product sucks because of wealth disparity, we need handouts, our players are lazy malcontent cheaters, handouts plz, where is our free handout money we billionaires desperately need?") since whomever said "I think this MLBAM is a good idea."
From Merriam Webster:
Even if "unique" means "without a like or equal," rather than merely "unusual," you can still say with perfect coherence: "Ichiro is more without a like or equal than Pujols." And you can say, "Chicago is no less without a like or equal than San Francisco or New York." if you think there's something wrong with that, please explain.
I would say that the Salinger quotation above is a bad example as it is obviously intended to be a joke. But there would be nothing wrong with saying that same line without irony.
I'll try. Chicago is not nearly as without a like or equal as San Francisco or New York.
How can Franco's be a record if it's less than Rose's total? Could Rose break Franco's record by signing a Mexican League contract and getting one hit? (Actually, go tell him, he'd probably do it which would be awesome).
Me neither, and as one who likes the idea of giving credit for international play, I've toyed with the idea of Franco as a Hall of Famer. However generous the MLEs, though, I can't make it stick. His career does raise an interesting question: If someone played at an average or higher level for 30+ seasons, would he be a Hall of Famer? I know many people would say no, requiring some demonstrable peak of greatness, but I think anyone who could produce value for that long would be singular enough to honor.
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