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Baseball America: 2008 Preseason High School All-America Teams

Cutter Dykstra, is there a cooler dude baseball name than that?...Huh?...oh, Baseball Crank will let us know in a minute.

The 2008 high school group may not live up to 2007 in an overall view, but there are a few individuals that have several plus tools, making them not only favorites for early picks, but also shoo-ins for one of Baseball America’s All-America teams.

C -  Kyle Skipworth, Patriot HS, Riverside, Calif.
1B -  Eric Hosmer, Heritage HS, Plantation, Fla.
2B -  Cutter Dykstra, Westlake (Calif.) HS
3B -  Harold Martinez, Braddock HS, Miami
SS - Tim Beckham, Griffin (Ga.) HS
OF -  Isaac Galloway, Los Osos HS, Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.
OF -  Robbie Grossman, Cy-Fair HS, Texas
OF -  Xavier Avery, Cedar Grove HS, Ga.
UTIL - Aaron Hicks, Wilson HS, Long Beach, Calif.

RHP -  Gerrit Cole, Lutheran HS, Orange, Calif.
RHP -  Sonny Gray, Smyrna (Tenn.) HS
LHP -  Kyle Lobstein, Coconino HS, Flagstaff, Ariz.
RHP -  Tim Melville, Holt High, Wentzville, Mo.
LHP -  Robbie Ross, Lexington (Ky.) Christian Acad.
UTIL -  Aaron Hicks, Wilson HS, Long Beach, Calif.

Repoz Posted: February 29, 2008 at 08:26 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 29, 2008 at 08:47 PM (#2703247)
Beckham (not related to David) will likely be a top-3 pick in the draft. He draws comparisons to Barry Larkin, and that's probably his upside.

Skipworth's one of the best HS catching prospects to come along in years.

Cole's interesting; my guess is that he'll go top-10, maybe top 5. He's thrown only a handful of innings in HS ball the last couple of years, largely because Lutheran's pitching staffs have been loaded, but he can really bring it AND he's still growing into his body.

-- MWE
   2. Mike Emeigh Posted: February 29, 2008 at 08:59 PM (#2703271)
And before anyone asks:

Tim Beckham (HS SS from Georgia) and Gordon Beckham (college SS at UGa) are NOT related.

-- MWE
   3. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:04 PM (#2703278)
Is Cutter Dykstra descended from anybody we know?
   4. Rich Rifkin I Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:05 PM (#2703282)
"2B - Cutter Dykstra, Westlake (Calif.) HS"

Lenny's Junior?
   5. CraigK Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:07 PM (#2703286)
   6. Tracy Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:14 PM (#2703291)
Couple questions from someone fairly ignorant about HS baseball:

1 - Only two of the thirty position players are from states outside the South, Southwest, or California (and that includes one from DC). Is this normal for BA's teams?

2 - Do these teams regularly include pitchers who average a walk an inning (as two of them did)?
   7. Josh Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:23 PM (#2703299)
Cutter is also Allan's little brother.
   8. Keith Law Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:37 PM (#2703315)
Cutter is also Allan's little brother.

They're not related. Cutter is Lenny's kid, but Allan is no relation. EDIT: Now I've seen it mentioned both ways. Allan's Wake Forest bio page makes no mention of Lenny and says his father's name is Randy; however, Allan Simpson said that Cutter and Allan are brothers. I'm pretty sure that the WF bio is right and the two Dykstra kids are not brothers.

Only two of the thirty position players are from states outside the South, Southwest, or California (and that includes one from DC). Is this normal for BA's teams?

I don't know about BA's teams, but top HS players tend to be concentrated in warm-weather states. Some families will relocate to Florida, for example, to help their kids' chances of having a pro career. There's a selection bias here, however, as players in warm-weather states play more games and thus are 1) more likely to be seen by scouts and 2) have more time to get up to full speed by April, at which point some cold-weather high schools are just starting their schedules.
   9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:40 PM (#2703317)
I don't know about BA's teams, but top HS players tend to be concentrated in warm-weather states. Some families will relocate to Florida, for example, to help their kids' chances of having a pro career. There's a selection bias here, however, as players in warm-weather states play more games and thus are 1) more likely to be seen by scouts and 2) have more time to get up to full speed by April, at which point some cold-weather high schools are just starting their schedules.

To use a word I've begun to hate...do you think there may be an ineffiency here some smart team could exploit?
   10. Crispix Attacks Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:41 PM (#2703318)
He named his son "Cutter"? That's the Lenny Dykstra we know and love.

That would barely even make sense if Lenny was a pitcher, let alone a hitter.
   11. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:51 PM (#2703332)
Look at MLB players born in New England since, say WWII, Shooty. A disproportinate number of them are pitchers.
   12. flournoy Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:53 PM (#2703337)
I'd name my kid Knuckler before Cutter, but a decent choice nonetheless.
   13. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:56 PM (#2703342)
Look at MLB players born in New England since, say WWII, Shooty. A disproportinate number of them are pitchers.

Interesting. I think there may be a study here.
   14. Crispix Attacks Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:57 PM (#2703345)
Slurve is a nice name for a girl.
   15. Repoz Posted: February 29, 2008 at 09:58 PM (#2703348)
I'd name my kid Knuckler before Cutter

Nah...A Cutter is always breaking away.
   16. flournoy Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:01 PM (#2703353)
Good points, all. But on reflection, I think Hammer beats them all. Can't beat the cheesy 80s throwbacks.
   17. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM (#2703356)
   18. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM (#2703369)
Shooty, I mentioned that in this dugout.

It's an interesting idea. It could be more pitchers are getting drafted out of the Northeast beacuse a flame thrower is a flame thrower and the scouts figure they can teach the skill of pitching in the minors. For offensive players, though, raw physical skill isn't as impressive if the one game you see a guy he's flailing at pitches down and away. In other words, maybe it's easier to pick out a great arm than a skilled position player in a short season of play. Just bouncing ideas here.
   19. Keith Law Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2703381)
I did some slicing and dicing of draft data - hate to call them studies - when I was with TBJ, and one thing I found was that a player drafted from New England had a higher probability of reaching the majors than a player drafted from almost any other region. That said to me that teams just aren't taking risks on players from NE, whereas they'll throw a late pick on some HS kid from Florida because they've got more history with him.
   20. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM (#2703388)
I did some slicing and dicing of draft data - hate to call them studies - when I was with TBJ, and one thing I found was that a player drafted from New England had a higher probability of reaching the majors than a player drafted from almost any other region. That said to me that teams just aren't taking risks on players from NE, whereas they'll throw a late pick on some HS kid from Florida because they've got more history with him.

Sounds like an inefficiency to me. Let's keep this quiet so the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox don't go all Atlanta Braves on us.
   21. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: February 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM (#2703389)
Reaching into the murky depths of my distant memory...

Didn't Bill James take a look at the regional issues and conclude the great lakes area was underscouted compared to the south?
   22. Brian Posted: March 01, 2008 at 02:02 AM (#2703560)
It's an interesting idea. It could be more pitchers are getting drafted out of the Northeast beacuse a flame thrower is a flame thrower and the scouts figure they can teach the skill of pitching in the minors.


I also think teams like the idea that Northern pitchers usually have less milage on their arms due to less opportunity for year-round play.
   23. Tuque Posted: March 01, 2008 at 02:15 AM (#2703571)
This is one of the best collection of awesome names I've ever seen.
   24. Mike Emeigh Posted: March 01, 2008 at 03:22 AM (#2703597)
I also think teams like the idea that Northern pitchers usually have less milage on their arms due to less opportunity for year-round play.


Most elite players nowadays spend the entire summer playing for traveling teams, attending showcases, and the like. The seasons "start" later in the Northeast, is all.

-- MWE
   25. Keith Law Posted: March 01, 2008 at 04:01 AM (#2703617)
The seasons "start" later in the Northeast, is all.

But if all the seasons end at the same time, the northern kids would still pitch less. And if they're pitching into the fall, then the northern kids' seasons are shorter on two ends.

McGeary made his first start last year on April 12th. There were kids in Texas who'd already been pitching two months at that point.
   26. salfino Posted: March 01, 2008 at 04:14 AM (#2703619)
Hosmer is the guy who excites me if he slides because of his position. Scouts I've spoken to say he's the best pure hitter in the draft. Check this out.
   27. salfino Posted: March 01, 2008 at 04:50 AM (#2703631)
Less PAP for cold-weather hurlers. They can begin their slow, steady progression to 200 innings by age 28.
   28. The Kids Are Enright (1k5v3L) Posted: March 01, 2008 at 06:18 AM (#2703650)
Less PAP for cold-weather hurlers. They can begin their slow, steady progression to 200 innings by age 28.
So you're saying there's still hope for Mark Rogers?

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