More classical gas from Baseball America about Yankee minor leaguers.
1. Mason Williams, of
2. Slade Heathcott, of
3. Gary Sanchez, c
4. Tyler Austin, of
5. Jose Campos, rhp
6. Brett Marshall, rhp
7. Angelo Gumbs, 2b
8. Manny Banuelos, lhp
9. Ty Hensley, rhp
10. Rafael De Paula, rhp
Recent top draft picks Cito Culver (2010) and Dante Bichette (2011) also floundered, but other position prospects flourished while playing together in Class A. Outfielders Mason Williams, Slade Heathcott and Tyler Austin and catcher Gary Sanchez need more time to develop, but all are candidates to become the first homegrown Yankees to crack the big league lineup on a consistent basis since Brett Gardner in 2008.
Owner Hal Steinbrenner has said he doesn’t want to exceed the $189 million luxury-tax threshold in 2013, but that will be difficult. New York spent roughly $210 million on payroll in 2012, and it carries unenviable contracts for declining players such as Alex Rodriguez ($114 million through 2017) and Mark Teixeira ($93 million through 2016). Its top player, Robinson Cano, is a year away from free agency.
The Yankees have signed and developed young core players in recent years, but they traded Austin Jackson and Montero. The end of the 2012 season made it clear that a new nucleus will have to be developed, and soon.
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Posted: November 10, 2012 at 02:35 PM |
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1. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: November 10, 2012 at 03:16 PM (#4299612)Didn't seem to hurt them much, but it doesn't seem like much of a long-term plan, either.
FTA:
"PROJECTED 2016
LINEUP
Catcher Gary Sanchez
First Base Tyler Austin
Second Base Angelo Gumbs
Third Base Robinson Cano
Shortstop Eduardo Nunez
Left Field Curtis Granderson
Center Field Mason Williams
Right Field Slade Heathcott
Designated Hitter Mark Teixeira"
Ouch!
Dante Sr is another guy the Rockies tried to hire, as the batting coach. They have offered the job to Giambi, but he's unsure he'd retire to taking a coaching job.
Catcher Austin Romine
First Base Jesus Montero
Second Base Robinson Cano
Third Base Alex Rodriguez
Shortstop Derek Jeter
Left Field Brett Gardner
Center Field Austin Jackson
Right Field Jose Tabata
Designated Hitter Bob Abreu
It's just utter fantasy, and I frankly don't understand why Baseball America does it.
EDIT: Also, "Bob" Abreu?
You're taking it way too seriously. It's just a fun/simple way of showing how guys in the system line up.
I think the established players usually signify the organization has little in the way of serious MLB talent at that position.
And sometimes it even contradicts the write-up, which just confuses me. The subscriber Top 10 list, for example, says "A corner infielder in his first two seasons, [Tyler] Austin found a home in right field in 2012, exhibiting solid range and a plus arm." But then they slot him in as the 2016 first baseman.
Does this mean 35-year old Curtis Granderson projects as a better player than Austin, so that's why he's in LF and Austin is at first? Or is it just to mean that the Yankees have no first base depth so Austin (who apparently can play there) will be there? I think the whole exercise is just too cute by half, and doesn't serve any real purpose.
Thought that was the goal for 2014.
Quoting now from the annual:
(In fact, Cano did show "lots of improvement" in his second go-around at Double-A, hitting .301/.356/.497 in '04.)
Isn't this the part where somebody should be quoting Dave Cameron:
He was trade bait too. The Yanks moved him to third briefly in the minors to try to entice the Royals into acquiring him for Carlos Beltran, but the Royals were more interested in Mark Teahen.
at least cameron got something right in his review....
I'll bite:
2016 LINEUP
Catcher Matt Wieters
First Base Jesus Montero
Second Base Robinson Cano
Third Base David Wright
Shortstop Elvis Andrus
Left Field Alex Gordon
Center Field Andrew McCutchen
Right Field Justin Upton
Designated Hitter Mark Teixeira"
Does this mean 35-year old Curtis Granderson projects as a better player than Austin, so that's why he's in LF and Austin is at first? Or is it just to mean that the Yankees have no first base depth so Austin (who apparently can play there) will be there? I think the whole exercise is just too cute by half, and doesn't serve any real purpose.
It means the Yankees have organizational OF depth. Again, I think the exercise does what it's supposed to do and it seems clear to me.
What a gas!
They actually stopped doing it several years ago and supposedly there was an overwhelmingly negative response to it. So they brought it back because it is apparently what the people want.
The ten prospects listed here are good for 100 win shares, easy.
See intro :-)
The young guys are exciting players and all, but a long way away. The system is really not where it was a couple of years ago. Which is understandable given the trades and promotions, but still kind of a bummer.
1 Montero
2 Sanchez
3 Betances
4 Banuelos
5 Brackman
6 Romine
7 Noesi
8 Nunez
9 Heathcott
10 Laird
I like the current list better, even with Banuelos and Campos dealing with injuries.
Well, in retrospect, a lot of those guys did absolutely nothing. And a few of them were role players in the upper levels. It was high risk guys mixed with low ceiling guys. But Betances was making progress, Montero looked like an impact bat, Romine looked like a good catcher and some of those guys (I can't remember exactly who) didn't appear to be all that far away. Brackman and Laird probably never belonged on the list in the first place. But at least that list had guys who appeared to provide depth to the Major League team.
Prospects in Single-A, even promising, toolsy guys like Williams Sanchez, or Gumbs, are still extremely long shots. Almost all of these guys are so far away that it's hard to get worked up about them or realistically project them in the majors. I suppose it's a matter of taste, but I prefer seeing at least some guys in the high minors. I mean, I like David Adams and Corban Joseph a bunch, but the Yank's impact talent is just so far away right now.
I like this list because the position players have produced, rather than just having tools or being young for their league. Another year of similar progress plus Campos, DePaula and Hensley and the system could be viewed as stacked in 2013.
I dunno, Brackman after the 2010 season was looking like a legitimate major league pitcher. For a highly-touted college arm two years removed from TJ surgery to suddenly put up a 3-1 K/BB ratio with 8K/9 while demonstrating major league "stuff" and a 6'10 frame has to be considered a good sign for optimism. His falling apart in 2011 was depressing as hell as his 2009 control problems not only reappeared but actually got demonstrably worse.
I forgot about Montgomery, he should be fun to watch. Romine's defensive rep have gone down every time he has moved up a level. And I don't really see the bat developing. Of course, he is a catcher and they tend to take longer to develop as hitters.
I like this list because the position players have produced, rather than just having tools or being young for their league. Another year of similar progress plus Campos, DePaula and Hensley and the system could be viewed as stacked in 2013.
That's a reasonable and positive way to look at it. Of course, you need that one more year of similar progress and that's exactly why low minors guys don't excite me nearly as much. This will certainly be a big year for the farm system.
For a highly-touted college arm two years removed from TJ surgery to suddenly put up a 3-1 K/BB ratio with 8K/9 while demonstrating major league "stuff" and a 6'10 frame has to be considered a good sign for optimism.
I definitely agree there was reason for optimism, but the 5th best prospect in the system? I know age doesn't matter as much for pitchers, but he was very old for his league, he had a 5.10 ERA in A ball during that year (60 IP) to go along with his 6.22 K/BB ratio, and while his numbers in AA (80 IP) were promising, they weren't overwhelming (7.8 K/9, 3.3 BB/9) and he put them up in Trenton. I was excited at his progress at the time, but I'm not sure that's what the best year of a top five in the system prospect should look like, even one with grade A stuff. Of course, the guys below him weren't all that impressive.
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