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Baseball group joins abortion debate

Where is that ten foot pole….

The Original Gary Posted: April 12, 2003 at 04:50 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Alan Posted: April 12, 2003 at 04:55 PM (#251098)
Since I think we can all agree that this is a non-issue that will bring up no debate or tension among even the most politically radical Primates, let's say we keep this one to baseball. Bonds vs. Ruth. Discuss...
   2. WaltDavis Posted: April 12, 2003 at 05:11 PM (#251102)
Can we please stop linking to articles like this. There is NO baseball content here. It doesn't even relate to the HOF. The only outcome of linking to an article like this is to generate more heated political posts. While there's no way to avoid threads that may turn political, I consider it an exceptionally bad idea for primer to initiate threads which are political from the get-go.
   3. Steve Treder Posted: April 12, 2003 at 05:39 PM (#251106)
Hear, hear, Walt.
   4. Flynn Posted: April 12, 2003 at 05:54 PM (#251107)
Ruth vs. Williams.

Ruth has a higher OPS+ but Williams has a higher EqA.
   5. Steve Treder Posted: April 12, 2003 at 06:10 PM (#251109)
"Williams played in a more competitive era, ao any league-adjusted stats will artificially make Ruth look a little better."

A slightly more competitive era, but not dramatically so ... the population that the AL was drawing players from in the 20s/30s wasn't all that much smaller than the population the AL was drawing players from in the 40s/50s; the AL was integrated to a far lesser degree than the NL in 1947-60.
   6. Steve Treder Posted: April 12, 2003 at 07:56 PM (#251113)
Fair enough, srar. Well said.

Here's my two cents: I think it's fine, and in fact often quite interesting, when the discussion veers into the political realm from a fairly straightforward baseball-oriented topic. It's a demonstration of the degree to which everything is political at some level, baseball included.

But there can be a downside to those discussions, which is that they are prone to quickly descend into some rather nasty and ill-considered name-calling, which not only fails to illuminate any subject matter but also threatens to undermine the basic mood of collegial goodwill that often distinguishes this site from many other baseball discussion boards. I would hate to see lingering ill feelings generated in political discussions here have a souring effect on the general tone of discourse. It hasn't happened, but one can imagine it happening, and it would be sad if it did.

Therefore, while posting a link to a topic that has undeniable political ramifications -- the business side of baseball, the HOF vs. Bull Durham flap -- but that is also obviously significantly oriented toward baseball subject matter is just fine, I share Walt's unease with posting a link whose relationship with baseball subject matter is really slight. I think it runs the risk of, shall we say, generating more heat than light on the common interest that brings us all here, namely baseball.

Purely political discussion is obviously wonderful. I love to engage in it myself. I'm just suggesting that there are better forums for it than this one.
   7. Curtis Posted: April 12, 2003 at 08:11 PM (#251114)
ummm....So, how bout them Cardinals?
   8. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: April 12, 2003 at 08:57 PM (#251119)
But Babe Ruth is at least partially to blame for that John Goodman movie.

I really detest that movie. I even like "The Babe Ruth Story" better. At least the latter is so bad that you can laugh at it. C'mon, you have to love Ruth miraculously healing a sick kid! :-)
   9. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: April 13, 2003 at 02:57 AM (#251124)
I'm sorry I [Tito Landrum] set Tommy Herr off the deep end of religious fanatacism by porking his wife and getting her pregnant.

Is that based on real events?!? (Or is gullible not in the dictionary?)
   10. Benji Posted: April 13, 2003 at 09:25 PM (#251130)
dp....there's idiots, super idiots, titanic idiots...and then there's Dibble, the ultimate idiot.

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