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Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Baseball Image of the Day: Cult of Personality

Today’s image is from Cuba, a few weeks before Fidel stepped down.

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Gamingboy Posted: March 17, 2010 at 04:55 PM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. aleskel Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:30 PM (#3480924)
wasn't Castro a lefty? Why is he batting right-handed?
   2. Sheer Tim Foli Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:32 PM (#3480926)
He looks like Woody Allen from Bananas.
   3. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:38 PM (#3480927)
The poster says: "Without Revolution one couldn't have even dreamed of developing in our country a great sporting movement."
   4. RB in NYC (Now with New iPhone!) Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:44 PM (#3480930)
I really and truly thought this was going to be a picture from George M. Steinbrenner Field.
   5. Cabbage Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:45 PM (#3480931)
How would Castro feel about the Creative Commons License this photo is distributed under?
   6. Lassus Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:47 PM (#3480933)
As far as it could be said that any album changed my life, that one did. (Well, the one with that lead track.)
   7. Rich Rifkin Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:49 PM (#3480935)
I like the part where Fidel drinks the big gulp of vodka and then takes a dive into the folding chairs. Too bad, when he was down for the count, no one had the sense to stomp him on the back of the head until the last of his evil goo squished out. It's also a shame Cuba is no good in soccer.
   8. SoSH U at work Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:50 PM (#3480936)
As far as it could be said that any album changed my life, that one did. Well, the one with that lead track.


I was wondering what your pre-edit post was referring to, since I knew the album was Vivid.
   9. depletion Posted: March 17, 2010 at 07:55 PM (#3480941)
We can't salute you, can't find a flag.
If that don't suit you, that's a drag.
   10. Gamingboy Posted: March 17, 2010 at 08:24 PM (#3480981)
The poster says: "Without Revolution one couldn't have even dreamed of developing in our country a great sporting movement."


At a glance of pure statistics, he is right: Cuba has 194 medals in the Olympics (the most per capita), and 184 of those came after the revolution. However:
A) the Cuban medal counts have gone down every Olympiad since 1992 (the first Olympics the Cubans participated in that had professionals allowed in most sports- the Cubans had boycotted '88 when some professionals were allowed in select sports)
B) the sports that Cuba had always done well in were those that didn't have professionals (Boxing and Baseball until 2000).
C) The Cuban National Baseball Team is no longer an unstoppable force of nature, see: The WBCs, the last two World Cups, the 2000 and 2008 Olympics. If Baseball had been kept as a Olympic sport, I'm not even sure if the Cubans would be overwhelming favorites anymore.
D) Outside of Baseball, Cuba isn't particularly good at team sports. The Soccer team is FIFA's 119th rank, the Basketball team is tied for 75th on FIBA's rank (although the Women's team is 10th).
   11. The District Attorney Posted: March 17, 2010 at 08:30 PM (#3480988)
He looks like Woody Allen from Bananas.
The poster says: From this day on, the official language of Cuba will be Swedish. In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside... so we can check. Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now... 16 years old.
fixed
   12. RMc is the loyal supporter of the MLB event Posted: March 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM (#3481133)
The poster says: "Without Revolution one couldn't have even dreamed of f#@ing up a relatively prosperous country this badly."

El fixo.
   13. Rich Rifkin Posted: March 17, 2010 at 11:42 PM (#3481178)
That sign is a bit hard for me to read. But I think in fact it says: "Without (the) revolution a great sports movement developing in our country could not even be dreamed."

What you need to know about the improvements in Cuba since King Fidel handed power over to Crown Prince Raúl:
In his three years in power, Raúl Castro has been just as brutal as his brother. Cubans who dare to criticize the government live in perpetual fear, knowing they could wind up in prison for merely expressing their views.
--José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director
   14. Rough Carrigan Posted: March 18, 2010 at 03:58 AM (#3481277)
Fielding Mellish, great name for a baseball player!
   15. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: March 18, 2010 at 05:13 AM (#3481302)
That sign is a bit hard for me to read. But I think in fact it says: "Without (the) revolution a great sports movement developing in our country could not even be dreamed."


How is that different from what I posted?
   16. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: March 18, 2010 at 05:19 AM (#3481305)
How is that different from what I posted?


I don't think he was correcting your post. I think he ignored it.
   17. Swedish Chef Posted: March 18, 2010 at 07:19 AM (#3481321)
Jamaica is pretty good at sports without a revolution, and their soundtrack is better. Freedom-Dictatorship 1-0.
   18. Snowboy Posted: March 18, 2010 at 08:25 AM (#3481328)
At a glance of pure statistics, he is right: Cuba has 194 medals in the Olympics (the most per capita), and 184 of those came after the revolution. However:
A) the Cuban medal counts have gone down every Olympiad since 1992 (the first Olympics the Cubans participated in that had professionals allowed in most sports- the Cubans had boycotted '88 when some professionals were allowed in select sports)


Drugs. Cuba hasn't kept up.

B) the sports that Cuba had always done well in were those that didn't have professionals (Boxing and Baseball until 2000).


Baseball accounts for 5 of Cuba's medals. 5. They do well across the board to get 195 medals.

C) The Cuban National Baseball Team is no longer an unstoppable force of nature, see: The WBCs, the last two World Cups, the 2000 and 2008 Olympics. If Baseball had been kept as a Olympic sport, I'm not even sure if the Cubans would be overwhelming favorites anymore.


Sorta like Canada in hockey? (Except Cuba didn't invent the game and spread it as a gift to the rest of the world.) But even given the crazy randomness of a single-elimination baseball tournament, Cuba made it to the gold-medal game in all five Olympics when it was a sport. I doubt Vegas ever listed them as an "overwhelming" favourite, but given their history I doubt they would have been posted as a longshot in 2012.

D) Outside of Baseball, Cuba isn't particularly good at team sports. The Soccer team is FIFA's 119th rank, the Basketball team is tied for 75th on FIBA's rank (although the Women's team is 10th).


So, Communism breeds individualists? haha. Cuba does okay at Women's bball and vball. And maybe 4x100 isn't a classic team sport.

Overall, the poster rings true. After communism falls, Cuban sports will slide off the map, they'll count single-digits for medals once government support falls off. And they have a very fit, sports-crazy populace.

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