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Saturday, February 09, 2008

Baseball Musings: Pinto: Blogging from the MIT Sports Business Conference

And Sal Baxamusa is doing the same for The Hardball Times.

Update: Bill James says the Red Sox can’t get careless with young talent because the Hanley Ramirez trade worked out.

...Rick Carlisle, former NBA player and coach, is telling Bill James that there are some things that you just can’t measure. You can’t measure a player’s heart, he says. We hear that all the time. In the previous panel, however, somebody asked Bill what teams should be measuring and quantifying that they aren’t now. He said that a record of a player’s makeup or character would be immensely valuable. So who’s right, Rick Carlisle or Bill James?

Repoz Posted: February 09, 2008 at 11:46 PM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. S. Ransom Posted: February 10, 2008 at 02:02 AM (#2687439)
Us psychologists have been measuring "heart" for a long time. No doubt, some dynamic scout has given prospects this. I'd be more likely to give something like this, and maybe add this and this. And, for Truby's sakes, give them this.

Of course, my interests run to health psychology and psychopathology. A sports psychologist could come up with a lot better pretty quick.
   2. 1k5v3L Posted: February 10, 2008 at 02:23 AM (#2687448)
Speaking of Gennaro, he's got a nice article over at

strong player development is the lifeblood of a team – on the field and in the books. Developing talent internally and reaping the financial benefits from the pre-free agency years is the most efficient, low-cost way to assemble a roster.

The economics of the free agency virtually guarantee it.
   3. philly Posted: February 10, 2008 at 02:32 AM (#2687449)
Link to nowhere.
   4. 1k5v3L Posted: February 10, 2008 at 02:44 AM (#2687453)
Sorry about that. Stupid Yahoo and its numerous random numbers. Let's try this.

Ok, this link works.
   5. OCD SS Posted: February 10, 2008 at 01:15 PM (#2687563)
The Red Sox now have play by play, pitch and ball in play data down to the rookie league level.

I wonder how accurate it is/ how it's set up (is it similar to the camera system enhanced gameday uses)? It's easy to see the value in having that data, but it seems it's probably limited, especially if they don't have it in every pack (and thus stats for the whole league).
   6. Sean Forman Posted: February 10, 2008 at 01:45 PM (#2687580)
I suspect that they've hired Baseball Info Solutions to collect the data for them. I doubt it has anything to do with cameras, just ball-strike, pitch count type info. Steve Moyer has told me that they are collecting minor league stats, but that it is just for a team and can't be re-sold. He won't tell me which team.
   7. 1k5v3L Posted: February 10, 2008 at 01:51 PM (#2687582)
BIS has been collecting PBP data at minor league ballparks for quite some time.

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