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Baseball-Reference.com - Major League Baseball Statistics and History

Here is the note I sent out to subscribers about the changes on the site.
————————————————————————-

Baseball-Reference.com is now fully updated with 2002 statistics.  The
postseason results, the awards voting, the game logs and the salaries
have all been updated.  I’ve also fixed the errors that made it into
the last release (thank you for the e-mails).

  2002 Awards Voting
  2002 World Series
  2002 Anaheim Angels Schedule and Record Breakouts


Patrick Reynolds from the Oracle of Bacon (oracleofbacon.org) recently
created a similar site for baseball.  I’ve licensed this application
from him, so it now appears on Baseball-Reference.com.  It is a bit
hard to explain, but please give it a try.

  Oracle of Baseball


There are just two days left to bid on the new player and team pages.
All the rookies and most team pages are still just $10.  To learn
more, visit the auction main page.  General Sponsorship information is
at the second link.  Sponsorships support this site and start at $5.

  New Page Auction
  About Sponsorship


Subscribers to Sports Illustrated will find an article about
Baseball-Reference.com and me (its creator) this week.  It won’t
appear at newsstands, unfortunately.

Thank you again for your interest in Baseball-Reference.com. 

Sincerely,
SeanForman

Sean Forman Posted: December 09, 2002 at 03:21 AM | 128 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 01, 2002 at 09:20 AM (#192776)
   2. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 01, 2002 at 09:23 AM (#192777)
D'oh! Reading is fundamental...
   3. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: December 01, 2002 at 09:43 AM (#192778)
Wonderful as usual, Sean. Thanks!
   4. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 01, 2002 at 04:30 PM (#192780)
Thanks a lot, Sean. I probably visit that site more often than any other, and I don't know how I'd kill my recreational time without it.
   5. Yoenis Cespedes, Baseball Savant Posted: December 01, 2002 at 04:39 PM (#192782)
For some reason, the Minnesota Twins are 94-97, finishing 1.5 games behind the 81-81 Chicago White Sox.
   6. Bud Selig Posted: December 01, 2002 at 05:07 PM (#192783)
See? Small market teams can't win. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
   7. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 01, 2002 at 05:58 PM (#192786)
The usual kudos, Sean!
   8. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 01, 2002 at 05:59 PM (#192787)
...and those two new innovations kick butt!
   9. Charles Saeger Posted: December 01, 2002 at 06:35 PM (#192788)
Sean -- not 2002 related, but I did post the 19th century team DP totals to the baseball-databank files area.

And, of course, 1000 kudos for these data.
   10. Srul Itza Posted: December 01, 2002 at 07:35 PM (#192791)
Many thanks.

Check our Single Season OPS+ Leaders.
   11. MattB Posted: December 01, 2002 at 08:18 PM (#192793)
Looking at Barry Bonds' "Similar Batters" and "Similar through Age 37", has Raphael Palmiero moved off of the Canseco cusp into the sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer category?
   12. MattB Posted: December 01, 2002 at 08:19 PM (#192794)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtml

Sorry. That's the link. Palmiero is the only non-HOFer on either list.
   13. Shredder Posted: December 01, 2002 at 08:33 PM (#192795)
Sean, once again, tremendous work. If it hasn't been said enough, I really appreciate the work done on this site and on BR and the BNS.

I'm bummed about the auction thing, though. Man, I called dibs like 3 weeks ago!! : )
   14. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: December 01, 2002 at 08:52 PM (#192798)
Thanks, Sean. Great work.
   15. Srul Itza Posted: December 01, 2002 at 09:21 PM (#192799)
Looking at Barry Bonds' "Similar Batters" and "Similar through Age 37", has Raphael Palmiero moved off of the Canseco cusp into the sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer category?

Well, there is some room between those two categories. Canseco in my mind is in the "unlikely but stranger things have happened" category. Palmeiro has moved into the "highly probable entrant, maybe even first ballot". As a first baseman spending a significant portion of his career in the happy ball era with no MVPs, no significant post season success, and no signifiganct league leading categories, he does not strike me as sure fire first ballot. Depending on how high above 500 HRs and how close to 3,0000 hits he gets, that could very well change.
   16. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: December 01, 2002 at 09:36 PM (#192801)
Yeah, the fact that similarity scores aren't era-adjusted worries me about Palmeiro; he's not as good as those comps suggest, but still damn good.

Regardless, Sean, you rock!
   17. Mike Piazza Posted: December 01, 2002 at 10:07 PM (#192803)
You shouldn't do that when I'm around.

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
   18. SeanForman Posted: December 01, 2002 at 10:08 PM (#192804)
Thank you for the compliments and thank you to all those who pointed out the Twins error. I'll be sure to fix that in the DB.
   19. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: December 01, 2002 at 10:18 PM (#192806)
Bernie Williams:
   20. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 01, 2002 at 10:22 PM (#192807)
Bernie Williams does not have a high peak, but he's very consistent and durable. I'm rooting for him to develop his HOF credentials further.
   21. Repoz Posted: December 02, 2002 at 12:16 AM (#192810)
Sean....Brilliant as usual...now with the new final year stats feature, you have made it much easier for me to compare Fritz Brickell with Jose Valdivielso !!
   22. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 02, 2002 at 02:10 AM (#192812)
I just looked at Mike Benjamin's 2002; is it really possible to have an OPS+ of 0?
   23. Charles Saeger Posted: December 02, 2002 at 03:29 AM (#192814)
Here's something that struck me this afternoon, about Baines -- his chances would be better were you to flip his 1983 and 1984 seasons. He had a big year in 1984, and if he had it in 1983, the White Sox may have won 100 games, and Baines would have been an MVP candidate.
   24. Repoz Posted: December 02, 2002 at 06:24 AM (#192816)
OPS+ of 0....Rivington Bisland (OPS+ of -6 in career) chuckles away....

Papa-Oom-Mow-Wow....indeed!
   25. User unknown in local recipient table (Craig B) Posted: December 02, 2002 at 06:42 AM (#192817)
His highest comp, Luis Gonzalez, only has a 905 similarity score.

That may actually increase, rather than decrease, as Bernie's career gets longer and assumes a more common shape. It's rare for players of his calibre to retire early.
   26. SeanForman Posted: December 02, 2002 at 01:58 PM (#192822)
Post 44 was not me and was posted by IP address 206.146.184.249, the same as the other spoofing posts that have been popping up on the site last night.
   27. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 02, 2002 at 03:34 PM (#192823)
Also on the subject of things gone pear-shaped -- what happened to the "Hall of Fame" thread begun a day or two ago?
   28. User unknown in local recipient table (Craig B) Posted: December 02, 2002 at 03:53 PM (#192824)
what happened to the "Hall of Fame" thread begun a day or two ago?

Actually, I'm glad it disappeared... I made a post to it accidentally that was about two-thirds-completed and half-revised; it left me looking as inarticulate as President Dubya.
   29. Jay Jaffe Posted: December 02, 2002 at 04:45 PM (#192825)
Sean, congrats as always on a fine job, and thank you on behalf of baseball fans everywhere.

Since I know you're just itching for something to do, I have one minor request/suggestion for improving the pages the next time around: strikeout rates on the league stat pages. Unlike hit and walk rates (which are listed among the pitching stats), strikeout rates have changed pretty drastically over the course of baseball history, and it would be a useful thing to be able to track.

Now that I mention it, rate stats for individual pitchers (H/9, K/9, K/W, WHIP, or whatever) would be useful too, but that's a whole 'nother ballgame...
   30. Charles Saeger Posted: December 02, 2002 at 06:14 PM (#192828)
Graham, I was thinking the same thing, looking at the empty XWin column.

I think it would, as James has printed Win Shares for all players from 1876-2001. If we were to fiddle with the formula and make our own output, I am not so sure.
   31. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 02, 2002 at 06:48 PM (#192829)
It's possible that Bill and his publisher would give Sean the right to reprint the information for a token payment of some kind, since it would help to familiarize people with the Win Shares methodology and possibly advance long-term sales of the book. Can't hurt to ask, anyway.

Sean: Would you be willing to accept vounteer help to add additional features to the site? You already put a lot of work into it, so it's sort of rude to ask you to do more for what's already a nice free site, but there are some things out there that might make the site even better, if added. For example:

1) Splits- lefty/righty, home/away, etc.
   32. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: December 03, 2002 at 02:28 AM (#192834)
Whoa there! Bill James would be so disappointed....

There seems to be some confusion between the HOF Monitor and the HOF Standards List.

The Standards list is a 100-point scale on which the average HOFer scores 50, with weak HOFers around 35 and Willie Mays at around 82.

The Monitor is an open ended scale intended to predict whether active/recently retired players will make the HOF; if they're over 100, it predicts they're better than 50-50 to make it (eventually), and if they're over 130 it predicts they're very likely to make it (eventually).
   33. Repoz Posted: December 03, 2002 at 06:01 AM (#192836)
Albert Pujols at age 22 (and still holding) most similar....

Joe DiMaggio (938)
   34. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 03, 2002 at 07:19 PM (#192837)
Heh. That's like those lists they used to have on Sesame Street: "One of these things is not like the others; one of these things just isn't the same."
   35. Benji Posted: December 04, 2002 at 09:48 AM (#192838)
Sean, your site alone is reason to have Internet access. Thank you for all the fun, trivia question material and information you have provided me. I'll get around to sponsoring a page any day now (is Jay Payton's available? lol). Thanks again.
   36. Benji Posted: December 04, 2002 at 02:04 PM (#192840)
I think the Al Gore jokes just show how scared the Bushies are of him. They keep insulting him as if that puts them above him.
   37. Mr. Crowley Posted: December 04, 2002 at 04:44 PM (#192842)
It's a trap!
   38. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: December 05, 2002 at 12:13 AM (#192848)
Be careful, Oh, yuck, you might misunderestimate one of Dubya's defenders....
   39. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: December 05, 2002 at 01:45 AM (#192851)
A (slightly) more instructive comparison would be his sims through age 29:

1 Shawn Estes (972)
   40. Joel Barrett Posted: December 05, 2002 at 04:09 PM (#192857)
"You know the Bob Horner story is very intriguing. He started young, was a consistent strong performer, improving his plate discipline and average. Then in his prime was colluded out of MLB, played a year in japan where he was injured and felt forced to play through it. His career ended because of the injury."

Horner also missed more than 45 games per year as a Brave, mostly due to injuries. Only twice in a 10-year career did he play in more than 130 games - never more than 141. By the time he left Atlanta, he had been moved from 3b to 1b (largely as a result of the injuries). His wrist re-injury in 1984 (when he only played 32 games, and the Braves finished 80-82 and 2nd in the NL West) arguably cost Joe Torre his job in Atlanta.

His last two years in Atlanta he was one of the 10 most expensive players in the NL. Given his injuries, his position change, and his slight offensive decline, he wasn't worth continuing to pay at that level.

While Horner was a victim of collusion, his injury problems clearly did not start in Japan. Every ML team had to be afraid by then of giving him a disasterous multi-year contract. Considering his health and conditioning, by 1987 it would have come as a much bigger surprise if he did have a long and productive career left ahead of him.
   41. dks Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:20 AM (#195819)
<i>Posted 10:06 p.m., December 8, 2002 (#3) - Department of Irony
   42. Scott Lange Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:31 AM (#195820)
Challenge: What player is the most connected?

Babe Ruth is a 3.361. I suspect we are looking for a guy with a long career who played for many teams in the 40's or 50's.
   43. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:36 AM (#195821)
Since the Oracle is all about tying things together, I'm going to tie this thread to another one : http://www.baseballprimer.com/clutch/archives/00005313.shtml#79

Pittsburgh failure, then and now:
   44. Scott Lange Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:38 AM (#195822)
Paul Waner 3.029
   45. Scott Lange Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:43 AM (#195823)
All right, one more. Warren Spahn is a 2.913.
   46. scotto Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:44 AM (#195824)
Moe Berg: 3.303

This is wicked cool.
   47. scotto Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:46 AM (#195825)
We have a new leader:

Casey Stengel, 3.462
   48. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:47 AM (#195826)
Anyone know why Jim O'Rourke played a couple games at 53?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/o'rouji01.shtml
   49. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 04:52 AM (#195828)
Did Early Wynn keep on going just to get to 300 wins?
   50. scotto Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:00 AM (#195830)
This is kinda like Lays potato chips. I better cut this off or I'll be here all night

Aaron Sele 4.281
   51. scotto Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:03 AM (#195832)
D'oh! I officially out myself as a bonehead. Good night!
   52. Eliot Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:06 AM (#195834)
Jim Rice: 3.644
   53. SeanForman Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:11 AM (#195836)
Sparkles,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. it should be fixed now.
   54. Nick Warino Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:12 AM (#195837)
I noticed Barry Bonds' ALDS and ALCS stats are switched.
   55. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:13 AM (#195838)
Connectedness of some current managers:

Frank Robinson: 3.170
   56. Sweet Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:16 AM (#195839)
C'mon, Sean -- did you have to post this the night before I have a paper due? Now I'm just dead.

Hank Blalock is 10 steps away from 3 players; does the dial go up to 11?
   57. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:19 AM (#195841)
GregT2, I think the old players generally turn out to be the least-connected.

Tom Foley is a 6.443
   58. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:21 AM (#195842)
The least-connected player I can find is Tony Alvarez, at 4.902. I didn't exactly do an exhaustive survey, though.
   59. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:23 AM (#195843)
Least connected?

Dave Coggin 4.567
   60. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:24 AM (#195844)
Dick Allen's a 3.260. Knowing that many people firsthand, wouldn't you think he'd've had more friends?
   61. dks Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:27 AM (#195845)
Least connected: Ed Duffy, also at 6.443.

It was only after Ryan's post that I realized Ed Duffy and Tom Foley were teammates. ;) Both played only in 1871.
   62. Paul Mazurkiewicz Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:28 AM (#195846)
Damn. What another waste of my time?
   63. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:28 AM (#195847)
Wow, Mike Morgan is 3.598. I would expect a much lower number, considering the sheer number of teammates. He has had 679 teammates. Can anyone beat that?
   64. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:37 AM (#195849)
Phil Cavaretta--2.969
   65. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:38 AM (#195850)
Bobo Newsom had 652 teammates and comes in at 2.942, that's the closest I've found to Morgan/Wynn so far.

I need to go to bed...
   66. Russ Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:39 AM (#195851)
Morgan's number is wickedly low considering how new he is. Wynn has a big advantage, because his career ended in the middle of the baseball spectrum. As the middle shifts towards the 70's, Morgan will look much better...
   67. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:40 AM (#195852)
Just further confirming (and proving I have too much time...)

For whatever reason, the 1871 White Stockings were particularly badly-connected (all the other one-year National Association players in the league were more connected than Foley and Duffy), meaning that any player who played one year with them is probably the co-record holder for least-connected. I haven't done a search of one-year 1872 players like the one-named Kavanaugh, however. (He's a 6.068, no one more than 9 away.)

And yeah, since no one over 10 steps appears for Foley/Duffy, I'd be pretty confident that every player in baseball can be connected 10 steps or less...
   68. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:44 AM (#195853)
Wynn an Newsom were teammates on several 40s Senators teams, I'm guessing if they're is someon more connected than Wynn, he'll be on one of those teams.
   69. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:44 AM (#195854)
Rickey Henderson --687 teamates and counting.
   70. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:53 AM (#195856)
"Jeremy Giambi (1998-2002) played with John Mabry (1994-2002) for the 2002 Philadelphia Phillies"
   71. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:54 AM (#195857)
Greg, you disappoint me. The much more applicable example is:

Jeremy Giambi (1998-2002) played with John Mabry (1994-2002) for the 2002 Philadelphia Phillies
   72. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:57 AM (#195858)
Ha ha beat you by a minute Ryan.
   73. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 05:58 AM (#195859)
Granny Hamner 2.991, not bad for a guy with a 16 year career with one team plus 27 games with another at the end.
   74. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:00 AM (#195861)
If there was a Football Oracle George Blanda would win I think.
   75. Boileryard Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM (#195862)
Dang it... I shouldn't have taken the extra time to type out my intro...
   76. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM (#195863)
This stuff is so much fun! You can get to Jesse Orosco to Cap Anson in 6 steps (Kranepool-Berra-Ruffing-Shano Collins-Nixey Callahan-Anson.

Eight steps gets you from the most recent rising star (Fransisco Rodriquez) to the first: Rodriquez's teammate is Julio Rameriz who teamed with Harold Baines, who teamed with Minnie Minoso who teamed with Phil Cavaretta who teamed with Charlie Grimm who teamed with Red Ames who teamed with Jim O'Rourke who played in the National Association with Ross Barnes.

Only 9 steps from Al Barker to Brandon Backe? Pretty impressive seeing as how that's the most obscure combo I could come up with.

What's the longest chain anyone here can come up with?
   77. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:01 AM (#195864)
Curt Simmons, 2.941. Still only third best so far.
   78. Repoz Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:14 AM (#195865)
I had Cap Anson meet up with Orlando Hudson in 8 easy steps (touching Minnie Minoso and Harold Baines along the way).....

Needless to say,Cap was none too pleased
   79. Steve Treder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:16 AM (#195866)
"Did Early Wynn keep on going just to get to 300 wins?"

Yes. After suffering through an ineffective year and ending up stuck on 299 in 1962, the White Sox released him, but his old team, the Indians, took him on as kind of a playing coach in order to get a chance at #300. He actually pitched rather effectively, and managed to squeak out the one victory in one of his rare starts, I believe in July.
   80. Mike Piazza Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:17 AM (#195867)
Hey, I'm only a Luis Lopez away from Billy Bean!
   81. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:19 AM (#195868)
Johnny Cooney-2.976
   82. Bill Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:21 AM (#195869)
Add Ed Pinkham to Foley/Duffy and I think you've got the least connected trio. They're the only ones that show up as 10s from this years least connected rookies.
   83. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:24 AM (#195870)
Bill James to Tony Muser: 5 degrees of separation. Mentally: much much farther than that.
   84. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:24 AM (#195871)
Basically what I have learned tonight is that the baseball universe centers around the great Harold Baines, Minnie Minoso, Phil Cavaretta link.
   85. Repoz Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:28 AM (#195872)
8 stopovers and 122 years in between outbreaks of the Clapps
   86. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:32 AM (#195873)
Rusty Kuntz (1979-1985) played with Jim Eisenreich (1982-1998) for the 1983 Minnesota Twins
   87. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: December 09, 2002 at 06:42 AM (#195875)
10 steps from either Ed Duffy or Tom Foley to Brandon Backe. I'd assume that's about the limit of it.

"Basically what I have learned tonight is that the baseball universe centers around the great Harold Baines, Minnie Minoso, Phil Cavaretta link."

Absolutely. Makes sense if you think about it - Minnie's 2.983, Phil's 2.969, Baines is a measely 3.401 & between them they cover 67 years. Sure, 16 of those years none were really playing expect for Minnie's 2 quickie stops, but then can get to just about anyone in that era in 1-2 steps.
   88. Bernal Diaz has an angel on his shoulder Posted: December 09, 2002 at 07:05 AM (#195877)
David Bell (1995-2002) played with Ron Gant (1987-2002) for the 1998 St. Louis Cardinals
   89. Repoz Posted: December 09, 2002 at 07:07 AM (#195878)
Ray Oyler (1965-1970) to Rey Ordonez (1996-2002) actually has The Chicken Fred Stanley (1969-1982) as one of the links...

Rickey (1979-2002) of course ruins the fun...by not being a pathetic wanker SS.
   90. Repoz Posted: December 09, 2002 at 07:28 AM (#195884)
Dave....Is Mario Mendoza actually an option?
   91. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 07:57 AM (#195888)
Gus Bell (1950-1964) played with Frank Robinson (1956-1976) for the 1960 Cincinnati Reds

Frank Robinson (1956-1976) played with Buddy Bell (1972-1989) for the 1976 Cleveland Indians

Buddy Bell (1972-1989) played with Dennis Eckersley (1975-1998) for the 1976 Cleveland Indians

Dennis Eckersley (1975-1998) played with David Bell (1995-2002) for the 1997 St. Louis Cardinals

Since you can cut Buddy Bell out of the link, I guess it's really true that it skips a generation...

------------------------

Bobby Bonds (1968-1981) played with Danny Darwin (1978-1998) for the 1978 Texas Rangers

Danny Darwin (1978-1998) played with Barry Bonds (1986-2002) for the 1997 San Francisco Giants

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Pete Rose (1963-1986) played with Barry Larkin (1986-2002) for the 1986 Cincinnati Reds
   92. Captain Obvious Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:03 AM (#195890)
Tim Raines (1979-2002) played with Tim Raines (2001-2001) for the 2001 Baltimore Orioles

Ken Griffey Sr. (1973-1991) played with Ken Griffey Jr. (1989-2002) for the 1990 Seattle Mariners
   93. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:05 AM (#195891)
Gary Roenicke (1976-1988) played with Mark Belanger (1965-1982) for the 1980 Baltimore Orioles
   94. EricEnders Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:09 AM (#195892)
Skippin' Generations:
   95. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:20 AM (#195894)
Masanori Murakami (1964-1965) played with Gaylord Perry (1962-1983) for the 1965 San Francisco Giants
   96. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:41 AM (#195898)
Sandy Nava (1882-1886) played with Joe Sommer (1880-1890) for the 1885 Baltimore Orioles
   97. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:44 AM (#195899)
Cy Young (1890-1911) played with Nick Altrock (1898-1933) for the 1902 Boston Somersets
   98. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:44 AM (#195900)
Very cool - the list of guys who played with father and son.

Jerry Reuss played with Matty and Jesus Alou, as well as Moises Alou.
   99. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 08:56 AM (#195904)
Jim Thorpe (1913-1919) played with Rosy Ryan (1919-1933) for the 1919 New York Giants
   100. Bangkok9 eschews 1 from Column A Posted: December 09, 2002 at 09:23 AM (#195906)
Brooks Robinson (1955-1977) played with Mark Belanger (1965-1982) for the 1971 Baltimore Orioles
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