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Tuesday, October 18, 2011
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18. Answer the following related to various running jokes at the Baseball ThinkFactory website, for 10 points each:
[10] One recurring poster uses this name of the protagonist from Ring Lardner’s You Know Me Al. The poster imitates this character’s semi-literate style to comment on the baseball issues of the day.
[10] A hilarious running joke involved the phrase, “Sure, I’d listen if [blank] called,” a reference to an interview involving this former manager saying he would listen if for no apparent reason, the Red Sox contacted him. This recent Hall of Fame inductee won the 1982 World Series with St. Louis.
[10] Posters frequently mock Joe Morgan for suggesting that this man, not Michael Lewis, wrote the book Moneyball. This man is noted for his sabermetric friendly policies during his time as GM of the Oakland Athletics.
The link should call up a Word file. Look for Bonus #18 or search for the words in the excerpt. You’ll find the answers there.
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It is in a lead in today.
That seems to be a statement about your own inadequacies and not those of the post.
An opinion, and like most of yours, wrong and wrong-headed.
It never gets old. Your schtick, on the other hand . . .
But check post 38.
The one that got to me was:
Think of the funniest looking thing you can think of in a baseball Uni. John Lacky right. Well did his team win Al I ask you
It's not a beef. I have nothing personal against him. But he's turning into the second coming of RossCW.
See, I'd rather read a guy like Allen Barra who vacillates between rational analysis and outright fanboyism.
I mostly ignore Ray, though five or six years ago when I was more active here he probably would have really pissed me off. Even so, I don't think it's fair to compare anyone to RossCW. We've had some pretty big dicks post here over the years, probably myself included. But no one was as intellectually disingenuous and infuriating as Ross.
I see you've missed Sugar Bear Blanks' performance in the 9/11 Mosque thread.
when I was more active here
My main impression of RossCW was that he just wasn't all there. More like an oblivious or unconscious troll than anything else, even though his sheer repetitiveness could be irritating as hell after the first 5 or 10 posts.
Most of the attempts at humor are pretty crappy and the puns are not really funny. The medellin kids one was pretty clever though.
SBB does a pale imitation, but crank him up to 11 and you get the jist.
He was the living embodiment of Stone Deaf
Quizbowl questions are intentionally structured that way, with the final, easy clue referred to as the "Touch Your Butt" clue.
At least that's what I
remember from playinghear from people who played Quizbowl in college.I loved Trash (pop culture, similar to the questions linked above) rounds, that was the only time I had a competitive advantage over the other Quizbowlers. Especially when the category was bad '90s alternative music. I remember owning a room full of seniors on a series of Gin Blossoms questions.
Also pro keefe
I think it's funny that there are posters who don't know what he's based on. What kind of weird schtick would that be.
With Ross, you could write nine sentences that would completely destroy his argument, and a tenth that was a dumb throwaway line with no relevance in which you may have said something that wasn't technically correct. He would then turn the entire conversation to focus on that tenth sentence, trying to argue that your small, irrelevant, technically inaccurate statement meant that your entire argument was wrong. He was truly a dick. Unfortunately, RossyW would occasionally get caught in the crossfire.
That's me. I did change my name in part because of RossCW confusion. Also, because "PreservedFish" is terrific.
(Team Keefe)
That's me. I did change my name in part because of RossCW confusion. Also, because "PreservedFish" is terrific.
(Team Keefe)
This is actually a fairly common tactic among many sub-cultures; evolution deniers, holocaust deniers, anti-vaxxers, etc. I come across that sort of thing all the time.
wow... I have always supported Ray on most of his crusades, even if I didn't agree with them 100%, but this quote is evidence number one he doesn't like anything in life. This blows away the comment about not liking energetic fans that he posted elsewhere...Ray, are you really this miserable of a human being???
I agree with you a lot(not on politics, because seriously I have a brain, and I don't want to vote against my best interest....anyone who votes repubs and makes less than 200k a year is voting against their best interest, if they know that, more power to them, but unfortunately these idiots eat the joe the plumber water and aren't that bright) I mean, I agree on the Ichiro thing to a degree, I agree on the post season a lot(except I still enjoy it regardless) but how can you not like Jack ,sure he fails sometimes, but yes he's funny.
I was thinking Joey B was the funniest poster on here... I mean every single thing out him is a ####### joke of monumental proportions. I keep waiting for Obama to knight him, and have Keith Olberman open up his roast. There are only a few posters who are so monumentally retarded that I enjoy their post, Joey is their king.
exactly, I mean we are talking actual funny hear, not some supposed funny like an Andy Kaufmann skit that nobody with an independent will thought was funny(those people that thought Kaufmann was funny, are the same people that buy apple computers, and hang out in starbugs writing books to make sure people see them writing...and of course they all have goatees. )
I absolutely like Ray. I don't agree with him, neither do I agree with Andy, or a crap ton of other people 100%...but if they make the discussions better by not being the same, then how could you not like them?
People need to separate their opinions from their taste in a person. I find Ray to be a nice reminder that even something as simple as Ichiro(hit machine, defense great, healthy sob) can still produce different informed opinions on his value.
What is wrong with different opinions....?
Goatees left the hipster scene more than a decade ago. They moved to the suburban dad scene. (Will handlebar mustaches follow?)
Opinions like "Jake Keefe often isn't funny?"
Ya got different and then you got just plain stupid.
What do you find funny?
You can get the paperback comic strip version of You Know Me, Al for as little as four bucks, or the Amazon kindle version of the original stories for 99 cents. If anyone reads these gems and still doesn't think that "our" Jack Keefe is a comic genius, I can only recommend some form of shock therapy to snap him out of his state of complete zombiehood.
Of course one can still "like" zombies, and our resident humor-challenged versions are harmless, but it's hard not to wonder sometimes exactly what animates them.
**which was also made into a pretty damn good Joe E. Brown movie in the 1930's, frequently shown on TCM
Or, apparently, absolutely free.
I find Gonfalon the one poster who can get me to snort, spit coffee and just generally LOL.
I generally ignore threads that are heavy Ray. These tend to bring out the worst in others and it's too hard to sift out the good discussion points from the flames. I find Ray's Ichiro! arguments worthy though, even if I want to give him some Japan credit. I remain decidedly on the fence. In the Hall of Entertaining Players Ichiro! is a first balloter.
If only to restore fair balance, Gonfalon Bubble is an unfunny piece of crap.
I know, right?
We enjoy it even more when we meet every month to divvy up the royalties we get from Repoz. You suckers never learn.
(I am the very model of a Jack Keefe Army General)
Ahh, now I get the evil Troy and evil Abed joke. They are doubling-down on their lack of hip.
I'm not going to moan about active posters. Instead I'm going to put in a good word for Joey B.: most times, as long as you don't call him names, he just states his case and moves on.
I mean, poke a hornet's nest with a stick if you like, but don't complain if you get stung.
Now I have a mental image of Andy, David and Ray getting together to spend their Repoz bucks; it boggles the mind. Of course one can only use Repoz bucks to purchase items from the Repoz catelogue, which consists mainly of obscure 45 rpm records. Good times all around.
Life's really been a bowl of cherries after I sold Repoz my original copy of The Jive Bombers' Bad Boy for a sweet 500 bucks. I've got the poor boy blowing bubbles out of his hot blazing nose.
I find most of the jokes around here funny: I like #6 Org and Option J and "never heard his broadcast" and even the CHASS HEADLINES, MR PRESIDENT. (I like Keefe, too.) But I also liked Piazza and the Admiral. The only thing that I found unfunny on Primer was Yun Taragaoshi.
I will admit that I am a Three Stooges fan and my favorite movie is Airplane!
...and Mike Crudale.
Community, Parks and Rec 1A and 1B
Modern Family, It's always Sunny, and Archer on the next tier.
To all you people who think Keefe is funny...
WTF am I missing? "Adam Done" and "AJ Pierogi" is the height of comedy now?? Even if you found it funny the first couple times (which I can understand) how can the same played out jokes and bad puns still leave you laughing? The most I could see is a "oh, that's clever." The Keefe love confuses the hell out of me.
Bad puns are the bedrock of any comedic undertaking.
Though I am on the same page elsewhere
Jack Keefe is one of my favourite things about BTF and It's Always Sunny is one of my favourite things about TV (maybe about life)
A sense of humor?
(I don't have TV, so whether your tastes in sitcom crap [but I repeat myself there, I suppose] indicate otherwise, I have no way of knowing.)
No, bad puns are the bedrock of Washington Post headlines: "In Short, Ripken a Hit at Third"; "Redskins Defense Is Positively Offensive", and crap like that, repeated for years at a time like Chinese water torture. Keefe is a mixture of good puns, current baseball allusions, a perfect ear for Ring Lardner's vernacular, a bit of confused sexual and racial commentary, and a lightheartedness that keeps it going for post after post.
This.
And don't tell me I lack a sense of humor, or sophistication and taste: I happen to be a connoisseur of the Three Stooges, and my Blue Collar Comedy Tour DVD collection is nearly complete.
That's Tommy in CT. He still pops up now and then.
And Kevin wasn't comparable to Ross, IMO.
In addition to Parks and Rec which was already mentioned, and Gonfalon Bubble whom I was the first to mention? Shooty is funny a lot of the time too, as are a lot of guys. Gaelan cracks me up because I picture him as playing a parody of his 2005 self. Burley's response in the James Pidutti thread makes me laugh every time.
I'm not saying Keefe is never funny...I have taken the time to read them before and snickered a bit. But yeah, "AJ Perogi?" Ok...Do you guys find Chris Berman funny? Just curious...
Thanks! Shooty! Shooty! Shooty! Shooty!
Seriously though, if I had to name one single thing that was/is my comedic north star, it would be Mystery Science Theater 3000. Particularly the quirky, esoteric Joel years. That one show shaped my sense of humor (and my omnivorous pop-culture knowledge) more than anything else in my life.
Hmmm. I wonder how I would answer this. When I was small, I would say Looney Tunes, the Muppet Show and old Popeye cartoons hit my comedy sweet spot. As I got a little older I'd say slob vs snobs comedies and a few shows like WKRP did it for me. Nowadays I like the less manic comedies--Archer, The Life and Times of Tim, Flight of the Conchords, stuff like that. And Louis CK. I've always liked stand up, too, even when I was too young to get the jokes, if that makes sense. I used to watch the Rodney Dangerfield young comics specials religiously.
But that's like saying you can't see the humor in SNL's presidential debate parodies because you don't even know or care who was running for president. An appreciation of parody humor depends on a prior knowledge of the person or situation being parodied, and all you're saying is that you don't want to bother acquainting yourself with the original. Which is fine, but that's on you, not on Keefe.
I liked Joel-era MST3K quite a bit, too, but by the time I came across it on cable I was approaching my mid-30s. By then, the train was long out of the station, I suppose, & the show's sense of humor resonated with my own, rather than influenced it.
These days, I'm obviously ossified. I wouldn't know any of the current stuff Shooty (who's definitely one of my top choices as a reliably funny poster) cites in his last graf above from a hole in the ground, & for that matter I can't imagine giving a damn. So it goes.
Louis CK too.
Oh, the discovery of Mad. My folks were really strict, if not quite Nazarene :) I assumed that I wasn't allowed to watch the Three Stooges or read Mad, because generally anything off the beaten path was frowned upon. When I was 11, we visited my parents' friends in Canton, O. Mark, a year older than me, had years worth of Mads. Mark was a very dorky but funny guy (later police chief of Masillon, OH for decades -- we did NOT see that coming). Well, I was hooked -- I spent most of those few days pouring over them. Back home, I started buying new issues, generally sneaking them in underneath a Superman or Batman.
Also, I failed to mention Space Ghost: Coast to Coast. I don't know if it influenced me, but I loved the absurdity of that show. The awkward pauses, the inane editing...all of it.
Did your GF type this?
And after visiting the site, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention how great Children's Hospital is. I have a soft spot for Delocated as well, but could easily see that not working for everyone.
Naw. If she had the exclamation points would be more realistically sized.
Kevin posts are in even shorter supply in the archives, and their absence renders portions of some threads unreadable. (I remember a HoM thread where the merits of fisk vs Munson are discussed, and it's like hearing an angry person shouting down the telephone at someone. You just don't have a good sense of what's causing the anger.)
Or, in Soviet Primer, the libertinarians purge you!
But humor is personal. I get that.
Early growing up, I suppose it'd be the Marx Brothers, M*A*S*H, Monty Python, Dave Allen, The Two Ronnies. Mostly because that's what my dad liked. Saw some old M*A*S*H episodes recently after not having seen the show for many years, and was surprised to see it holds up very well. #######, that was a funny show.
Love MST3K. But I found the show pretty consistently funny with both hosts.
Also:
I know that meme! One of the few I actually saw born. (I find gef to be a funny guy, overall.)
As for RossCW, I don't use the word "hero" very much but RossCW was the greatest hero in American history. If there was a way to check the logs, you'd see that Ross argued basically the same points Backlasher did, except the Legion of Doom here couldn't bully Backlasher* like it did Ross. Ross's career as poster here is also notable in that it shows how unfair certain moderators can be. Back in the days when it was possible to spoof other posters' handles, that sort of behavior resulted in an instant banhammer action for the IP involved EXCEPT when it was Ross being spoofed, then the behavior was not only tolerated, but encouraged.
* That is, until the crybabies whined enough that he got "moderated".
Strange dichotomy as the inclusion of Kevin posts renders portions of some threads unreadable.
You know in light of this thread, I decided to start en economics edition in the OWS thread. But Dan nuked it. You may direct your outrage towards him, for ruining something special ...
That's what Ross was like. He'd make ridiculous assertions that poster after poster would show to be incorrect, but he would soldier on with ridiculous twists of illogic until everyone simply gave up and he would claim victory. Then sometime in the future when a similar subject would come up, he'd chime in with "Well, we all agreed that I proved in the last thread..."
I think the moral of the story is, if you want to post a lot of comments on the Internet, you should have a hide like a prehistoric rhinoceros. I mean, I type that and I just assume somebody's going to compare the rhinoceros to my mother :)
I dunno. RossCW was before my time, but if 19 out of 20 people think you're an insufferable jerk, usually there's something to the indictment. Unless you're Antigone or Dr. Thomas Stockmann or something, and I'm not sure an internet baseball discussion board affords people the opportunity for that height.
And I'm saying this as someone who has agreed at times with RETARDO, Backlasher, AND Nieporent, at least to the extent where I've tried not to take sides personally. But yeah, Ross was a dick.
I had thought Hitler broke the mold after he and Dr. Mindbender dug up the graves of Ayn Rand, Genghis Khan, Leona Helmsley, Auguste Pinochet, and Avraham Stern, put all their DNA in a cloning vat, and created the monster known as David Nieporent. But apparently some monster matter was left and the result is Ray DiPerna: equally humorless, equally worshipful of bullies, equally glibertarian.
Am I evil if I found this funny?
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