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Baseball Primer Newsblog— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand
Tuesday, October 18, 2011
BBTF is now a worthy topic for pop culture quizbowl. The entire tournament is here.
18. Answer the following related to various running jokes at the Baseball ThinkFactory website, for 10 points each:
[10] One recurring poster uses this name of the protagonist from Ring Lardner’s You Know Me Al. The poster imitates this character’s semi-literate style to comment on the baseball issues of the day.
[10] A hilarious running joke involved the phrase, “Sure, I’d listen if [blank] called,” a reference to an interview involving this former manager saying he would listen if for no apparent reason, the Red Sox contacted him. This recent Hall of Fame inductee won the 1982 World Series with St. Louis.
[10] Posters frequently mock Joe Morgan for suggesting that this man, not Michael Lewis, wrote the book Moneyball. This man is noted for his sabermetric friendly policies during his time as GM of the Oakland Athletics.
The link should call up a Word file. Look for Bonus #18 or search for the words in the excerpt. You’ll find the answers there.
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Back on the old Neyer board, there was a poster calling himself emanip8ed. He was somewhat arrogant in his tone, sort of like MGL Lite. He had an infrequent nemesis who would make spoof posts and called himself constip8ed. That still cracks me up.
I'd laugh but my handle could be easily spoofed, too...
RossCW on Wiki Gonzales
I'm going to try. If anybody works for the City and can ease the permit process, that would be much appreciated!
I've acquainted myself with the original. So, it's still on Keefe.
Lazy hippies wanting handouts from the government!
I've acquainted myself with the original. So, it's still on Keefe.
If you've actually read Lardner for more than ten minutes (which I doubt) and still don't appreciate Keefe, I can only attribute it to some sort of flaw in your genes and / or your upbringing. There's no other possible logical explanation.
I can't remember the thread, but a few weeks ago, I believe in response to some remark of Lisa's about people who grew up in the lap of luxury, Ray alluded to an upbringing that by implication would make Kasper Hauser weep in pity. So that's a distinct possibility, I'd say.
The italicized speech tag is probably the summit of American comic writing.
Apologies in advance for any non-Lardner misspellings as I'm too rushed to Google.
Wasn't that the museum/"cultcher" thread?
Good times.
I'd vote for an Abrahams/Zuckers line from Police Squad!:
"Who are you, and how did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith ... and I'm a locksmith."
Being raised in miserable conditions often makes or breaks a person's sense of humor. Some of the world's funniest people were raised in conditions that would make 99% of us want to turn on the gas, but then most of them get any sense of levity beaten out of them at a very young age, either physically or by underexposure to real wit or humor. As Bertolt Brecht might have put it, "First feed the face, and then tell
right from wrongKeefe from Friends".Actually, I wasn't even aware of that thread's existence till I searched for "cultcher" just now. The one I'm thinking of was probably around a month earlier, but again I'm damned if I have even the slightest memory of the context. *sigh*
Which reminds me -- bbc deserves funny-poster props as well.
I love that TV show so much. Sometimes when I mention Police Squad! to people (assuming they've heard of it at all), they think I mean the Naked Gun movies.
Police Squad TV Show:Naked Gun Movies::Alex Rodriguez '07:Alex Rodriguez '11
Often but not always. However I do remember a time when someone supposedly spoofed Nieporent in a similar RossCWXYZ vein (the original Chomsky thread, I think), complaints were made, and Nieporent's fellow-gilbertarian, protecter-cum-moderator made damn sure everyone KNEW that was sooo sooo wrong, and that the spoofer's IP was banhammered forEVAR.
And no, the spoofer wasn't me cuz I'm still here and no amount of Rush quotes (which amuse Furtado) could have protected me from the glibertarian mafia, if it had been.
Then you're mistaken or illiterate or both. My prose is full of bad grammar and spelling, often exacerbated by typos. Backlasher wrote simple, excellent English.
"Teeth...will be provided!"
Keefe, yes.
Repoz posts a thread about DIPS. Gist of TFA: "Amazing sabermetrician invents amazing stat, scouts and sportswriters cower and simper!"
Stathead Mob: "Wow, pitchers have no control over balls in play -- it's so counterintuitive it's genius! It must be totally true with no caveats whatsoever!"
RossCW: WTF they have no control? Dan Quisenberry induced ground balls, Denny Neagle was a fly ball pitcher; this is stupid!"
Stathead Mob: "EFF YOU TROLL!!! They have NO CONTROL except for home runs! ZERO!! Don't you understand -- lookit the math! BLARG! BLARG!!! It's counterintuitive therefore irresistibly clever! Why don't you go blow a scout, you mathematically-illiterate #####!!!"
"RossCWXYZ": "Duh duh, mee to stupids for MAFF! Duh!!"
Stathead Mob: "Bwahahahah yeah, Ross!"
RossCW: DIPS is overstated. You people are always so smug and certain and self-righteous.
Stathead Mob: "SHUT UP TROLL, VOROS WORKS for the RED SOX!!! Who do you work for, huh? Putz! Besides, MATHS!"
"RossCWXYZ": "Duh, duh, I'm Ross and I'm stooopid! I eat poop! Duh!"
Stathead Mob: "zOMG lookit Ross finally tell the truth! BWAHAHahaha it's too funny forever hahahaha!"
[Months and months and months go by, with Backlasher and a few other hammering away]
Stathead Mob: "Ok, DIPS may have been slightly overstated but only at first and we were still right and all doubters were wrong."
[More months go by]
Stathead Mob: "We always admitted DIPS was overstated at first, and said so at the time."
Backlasher: "Uh, no."
RETARDO: You jackasses owe RossCW an apology.
Stathead Mob: "RossCW?!?! Blarg blarg!!! That guy sucked!"
THE END
But I'd never be mean to someone in an online forum.
My perception of RossCW was that he was awful at the Neyer Board, then actually made some decent contributions at Primer, but his reputation was so shot at that point he often got shouted down. He had a maddening inability to ever admit error that didn't help his cause.
For the record, I am strongly pro-Keefe. Even when the posts are not laugh-out-loud funny, they are consistently clever. That's always appreciated.
or, alternatively:
Ross: You guys are so stupid. I crunched the numbers and my results show something completely different.
The Mob: Oh really, what did you do?
Ross: I multiplied A X B and subtracted C. It's so simple.
The mob: well, it's really not that simple. You forgot to account for factors A, B, C, D, E, and F
Ross: None of those factors can explain the entire discrepancy between my results and the published conclusion.
The Mob: Well, of course none of them account for everything, but taken together, they account for most if not all
Ross: So, like I said, none of the factors are meaningful and my hypothesis is correct
The Slightly smaller Mob, as some have given up: No, that's not what we said. Factor A is important and accounts for 20% of the discrepancy. As does factor B. factors C and D are also important, though smaller. factors E and F can probably be ignored, as it's not worth taking the time to calculate, but still work against you hypothesis.
Ross: OK, since your factors are not important and are impossible to calculate anyway, it can safely be said that you agree with me.
Even smaller Mob: No you dolt, TOGETHER, they add up to a significant amount, and you're not accounting for any of them.
Ross: Really, you want to hang you hat on factor F? Why that only happens once ever 10 games or so. It can't possibly explain away the discrepancy.
Lone remaining dissenter: Yes, but there are 162 games a year, so it happens 16-20 times a year. Not hugely significant , but still real and meaningful.
Ross: Ok, so 5% of the time you are correct, and 95% of the time I am. So it's safe to say my theory explains 95% of the discrepancy, which is usually rounded up to 100%. Glad we can all agree.
*crickets*
Ross: Glad we cleared that up.
Unsuspecting new poster: Wait a minute, you haven't accounted for factors a through F.
Ross: Well, none of them can account for the entire difference.....
I'm guessing that this is a good natured jab Shredder. IIRC, you guys are buds. Actually, Dayn's funniest work is at NotGraphs where he inserts Dick Allen's name into works of literature.
I'm not a huge Marcel Duchamp fan, but when I am in a Dada mood, I reach for that site.
Rex Hamilton as Abraham Lincoln!
I argued with Backlasher as much as anyone did, but I also liked him about as much as any other poster here. However, his writing was often just plain sloppy and occasionally, though not usually, it was difficult to comprehend as a result. It's also a bit frustrating to debate with someone who can't take the time to correct their spelling/grammar mistakes as they're typing--I first took it as a sign of disrespect before I got to know him better.
Every negative thing said about RossCW here is true. In retrospect, he was right about a few things, but wrong about so many others. Most importantly, he simply had no interest in what you had to say, so there was no point in arguing with him.
Whatever happened to Dan Werr, by the way? He was one of my favorite posters.
Random Top 3, no order:
Tawny in Cleveland
Jeter moaning "E-2, Jorge?"
The Who's the Sampler/Who's the Sampled? cross-cuts between romantic poets Emily Dickinson and Luther Campbell.
He still Lounges. I think he stopped writing Diggin' In The Astrodirt once he got a job and found the Mainland to be too argumentative or something. I dunno, ask him.
DISCRIMINATION!
He's overly devoted to the legacies of his boyhood idol posters.
Will refreshments be served?
Almost as importantly, will they involve mayonnaise?
The most impressive thing is probably that nobody has ever claimed credit for them.
I'm still pissed we didn't get any Ce Lo Green residuals for that bit.
i can't believe there are actually people who don't find keefe funny. i mean, come on.
He was posting on various Twins Fans blogs as recently as last year:
http://www.battleyourtailoff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17751&start=0
He still wasn't very popular
Have at it!
Hilarious.
I'm pro-Keefe but anti-mayonnaise (and anti-reclining) ... where do I show up?
Yeah? I've never seen the show, but I LOVE those movies. Think I'll head over to Netflix to see if they've got 'em.
Lying face down in a pool of blood in a back alley.
I am with you - but then, whenever he'd talk about "Jack Crust", it would make me giggle.
That understanding trade value post made my head hurt
yikes
They gave up about 25 WAR and got back 6-7...
We need to work up one of those political compass graph things ...
They gave up about 25 WAR and got back 6-7...
Yeah, that looks pretty bad, but you have to factor in the cost of those 25 WAR vs the cost of th 6-7. Not that I've done that, but that was kind of the point of the post.
How many wins could they have bought with the difference on the FA market?
Yes they saved some money but they were seriously hosed on the talent exchange and likely missed out on one playoff
shrug
takes all kinds
what surprises me is that none of youse guys have figured out who is writing the comments
i miss BL too but for some reason he prefers his kidz to us can you believe it
You Know Me, Alice
Starts at page 272. It's brilliance begins with the fact that it's about a little league coach who has to cope with permissive parents who have a Freudian alibi for every one of their precious's shortcomings.
Peter DeVries's Without A Stitch In Time.
Pro-Reclining
Pro-smoking in businesses
Anti-Keefe
Pro-Andy is breaking the law
If not, you can buy the complete series on DVD for, like, $10.
The movies added a lot more physical slapstick (which isn't my thing). The TV show is FAR more focused on the puns and wordplay.
I less than three that show.
Yes they saved some money but they were seriously hosed on the talent exchange and likely missed out on one playoff
From the article:
Worst. Thread. Ever.
Worst. Thread. Ever.
Yeah, but it's been worth it for the DVD's.
And obviously God approves of my lawbreaking, since He delayed all the run-scoring last night until The Mask of Dimitrios was over. Good timing, Big Fella.
You and your hubris are just being set up, like in a good film noir.
I definitely lingered longer than the commercial breaks catching snippets of TMoD last night. Never seen it but it looks very cool.
Analyzing the Santana trade as "keeping Santana" v. "package they got from the Mets" is the wrong way to do it. At one point, both the Red Sox and Yankees had much much better packages on the table and Smith lost them by moving too slowly.
You and your hubris are just being set up, like in a good film noir.
Of course if I were a world class criminal mastermind, I'd be recording on one channel while watching the other, and then transferring my ill-gotten goodies to DVDs. But nah, I'm just a run of the mill shoplifter.
"Oakland Vice" Dan Johnson. Does he get Bucky F, Dent treatment now from Red Sox fans?
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