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Baseball Video Game Directory - Arcade, Personal Computer

I haven’t gone through the whole list but I’m sure I’ve played a bunch of them. I’m currently down the OOTP rabbit hole.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:29 AM | 45 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:47 AM (#5744175)
Favorite of all-time: Baseball Stars.

The ability to make your own team, name your own players, purchase free agents, hot rookies, etc, the fact that some players had more potential than others, and to play a (25 game) season and accrue statistics, made it far more imaginative and replayable than other games of its era. It was nicely balanced too - fast players were valuable, good defenders were valuable, it wasn't just a power hitting contest. Maybe I'm just old, but I honestly prefer the simple old Nintendo controls, two buttons, no learning curve.
   2. PreservedFish Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:56 AM (#5744180)
I mean I know that it pales in comparison to modern games, and that I'm mostly just nostalgic, but that game, for me, at the right age, was just perfect, and it was a staple of my life for more than a decade, straight through to college, and if I still lived communally with other men, heck, I'd probably still be playing it.
   3. Greg K Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:56 AM (#5744181)
Baseball Stars is one of the great video games of any genre. I still play it every now and then.

Annoyingly Baseball Stars 2 was the same game, just with some of the customization removed.
   4. Greg K Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:58 AM (#5744182)
I remember the big hump to get over was getting someone with elite defence to play SS. That could turn your team into a contender over night.
   5. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: September 14, 2018 at 08:01 AM (#5744183)
Greatest defensive play in baseball video game history: robbing a homer in Fenway Park on MLB 2K6.
   6. PreservedFish Posted: September 14, 2018 at 08:09 AM (#5744185)
I remember the big hump to get over was getting someone with elite defence to play SS.


3B was more important, IMO. They tended to get more balls, and had the longer throw. It was a reasonable choice to spend your first few bucks on 3B defense. (Catcher too, an inept catcher was an incredible hindrance)

Eventually, when you had two teams of all-stars lining up against each other, it became something of a competition as to who could hit the most solo homeruns, because every catchable ball got caught, and the pitchers were ridiculous too. I think we began to put self-imposed limits on Power and maybe on Defense to deal with this (max 12 instead of 15), keep the game more balanced. Pay attention, Manfred!
   7. crict Posted: September 14, 2018 at 09:04 AM (#5744199)
Bases Loaded was quite fun with the mound charging and bullpen karts. Played a lot of Roger Clemens' MVP baseball, with the messed up players names (Bade Woggs). The original Ken Griffey game was fun. Then played a lot of Tony Larussa 3, mostly just simming as it was the first game I remember with multiple seasons and new prospects. I didn't know Mogul had stopped production. It was a whole new type of game when it came out, but clearly OOTP became better.

And I'm still pissed at my friend who hit the reset button and erased the memory on my Baseball Stars.

EDIT: Looks like Mogul is still alive. The website has not been updated.
   8. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 09:17 AM (#5744207)
Hardball or GTFO
   9. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 09:29 AM (#5744213)
You mean Earl Weaver or GTFO
   10. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 09:33 AM (#5744218)
IF I MEANT EARL WEAVER I WOULD HAVE SAID EARL WEAVER
   11. John DiFool2 Posted: September 14, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5744282)
Been meaning to ask...is there a baseball ACTION sim? Not a stat sim, we got tons of those. One which has arcade/action elements, but has put Jerry Adair's physics to full effect, so realistic ball-bat physics (w/ the resolution of a single pixel if need be), backspin and sidespin for both pitches and batted balls, appropriate flight curves? The ones I've examined all seem to be firmly in the goofy arcade camp, w/ silly physics as such and crude pitching/hitting tools.
   12. Tom T Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5744332)
My first "favorite video game" was Intellivision's MLB Baseball. Got hooked on it when the Graham Electronics store had it on a projection screen TV out front, as a hook for customers. I also had the later version that was NOT the computer version (never did get that...dang it) but added fly balls to the mix (i.e., you now had to hit the ball in the air to get a home run), but I didn't see this on their list. Maybe I just missed it or they have labeled it as "Super Challenge Baseball"....?

After that, I am in complete agreement with YR. Hardball! I used to use a disk editor to replace the players and update stats on a game-by-game basis as my friends and I played multiple seasons. Took a while to find the starting portion of the string for "Allen"'s name, and we never did figure out how to control which pitches were assigned to each pitcher, or where in the file the abilities of each batting slot were coded. Also funny that if you changed the *name* of the pitch---we found the name strings---the features followed (i.e., if you changed OFFSPEED to FASTBALL!, everyone who had previously thrown an "offspeed" now threw the fastest fastball). Also couldn't swap the *handedness* of the pitchers ... that was likewise linked to the roster position. Obviously should have done an assembly dump of the file on the disk, but we were just 15 and didn't really have a clue how to make that work, given the disk editor only let us see one sector on the floppy at a time. (And we were NOT going to copy it all out by hand!)
   13. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:17 AM (#5744338)
I think you mean "I am in complete agreement with McCoy".
   14. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:22 AM (#5744342)
Ken Griffey Jr Presents Major League Baseball (1994, SNES) is easily my favorite baseball video game—I spent thousands of hours on that as a teen. (Hell, I still have it—it’s still great!)

For the regular Nintendo, I gotta go with Dusty Diamond’s All-Star Softball, which is just endless fun.
   15. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:27 AM (#5744347)
Earl Weaver Baseball II was the game I remember being part of a sim league in back in my first year in university.
There were a bunch of us (around 8, I think) and we all crammed into one of the dorm rooms to do the draft.
The draft pool were historical players (1900 up to 1989, I think), and I had a late pick in the first round.

Now, this was before I was a little more versed in the historical great players, but with my late pick in the first round I searched for and selected DiMaggio and hit enter.
Unfortunately, I wasn't paying attention and selected Dom DiMaggio, not Joe DiMaggio. Too late! Couldn't change it as the draft continued.

My team did not do well in the sim league, but I didn't finish last.
   16. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 14, 2018 at 11:33 AM (#5744355)
I don't remember which baseball game it was for the Playstation, but every time a batter would strike out, the commentator would say "The wiff..." in a smarmy voice.
It was really annoying.

Also, it got real buggy when Matt Luke would come to the plate. Whenever it said his name, it would pronounce it "Maaaaaaaaaaaaaatt Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke". No other players or names had this happen. Just his.

So for the rest of his career, my friend and I would ALWAYS pronounce his name like that.
   17. McCoy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5744370)
I think I recall a PlayStation baseball game repeatedly using the phrase "can of corn". I don't know if it was an ESPN franchise game or not. But it was one of the early PlayStation games as I bought the PS within its first ,6 months.

Perhaps Triple Play. Which PS gave had sabermetric stats? What that high heat?
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5744374)
My first "favorite video game" was Intellivision's MLB Baseball. Got hooked on it when the Graham Electronics store had it on a projection screen TV out front, as a hook for customers. I also had the later version that was NOT the computer version (never did get that...dang it) but added fly balls to the mix (i.e., you now had to hit the ball in the air to get a home run), but I didn't see this on their list. Maybe I just missed it or they have labeled it as "Super Challenge Baseball"....?


The intellivision is on there; they have three versions Major league baseball(1980) then they had Big League Baseball and finally super series big league baseball. (not sure if that is what you meant by super challenge baseball)
   19. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:07 PM (#5744376)
My first "favorite video game" was Intellivision's MLB Baseball. Got hooked on it when the Graham Electronics store had it on a projection screen TV out front, as a hook for customers. I also had the later version that was NOT the computer version (never did get that...dang it) but added fly balls to the mix (i.e., you now had to hit the ball in the air to get a home run), but I didn't see this on their list. Maybe I just missed it or they have labeled it as "Super Challenge Baseball"....?


We've talked about this game (Intellivision) previously a few different times. There were a handful of iterations (titles) I can't get that link open at work.
Super Challenge Baseball was a 'M-network' game for Atari, that was the baseball game w/o the shortstop. Still one of the best baseball games for game play, ever. Loved it. The Intellivision game we had was called 'Major League Baseball'. great sound effects including the 'Yer Ouuoout' robot voice.
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:08 PM (#5744379)
I don't see Diamond Mind baseball on there though.
   21. Ziggy's screen name Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5744386)
I was always a fan of RBI Baseball II. It's a dumb game in many ways, but simple in just the right ones. To get any competition you have to make it a point not to take advantage of the computer's stupidity (or enter the code to play the Tegen team), but seeing if you can get Tom Candiotti to no hit the Padres is a great way to kill twenty minutes.
   22. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: September 14, 2018 at 12:43 PM (#5744401)
It was a reasonable choice to spend your first few bucks on 3B defense. (Catcher too, an inept catcher was an incredible hindrance)


In Baseball Stars, you could put your weakest defenders at 1B and, weirdly, CF. Almost every fly ball was pulled, but occasionally there would be a gapper that you'd see a Yadier-ish guy slogging after while helplessly watching the runners circle the bases.

That was an amazing game. Having female players was a neat touch too.
   23. Tin Angel Posted: September 14, 2018 at 01:11 PM (#5744421)
Baseball Stars really was great, but the original RBI baseball was the one that got me into the others, and baseball history to a certain extent. The local Pizza Hut had a tabletop version with teams made up of their all time great players, so the Yankees had Ruth, Mantle, Ford, etc. It made me want to find out who the guys were that I hadn't yet heard of. I can't imagine how many quarters my mom gave me to play that game. Then some pizza, a drive home, and listen to baseball on the radio while organizing my cards. Great times.
   24. spycake Posted: September 14, 2018 at 01:19 PM (#5744426)
I was always a fan of RBI Baseball II. It's a dumb game in many ways, but simple in just the right ones. To get any competition you have to make it a point not to take advantage of the computer's stupidity (or enter the code to play the Tegen team), but seeing if you can get Tom Candiotti to no hit the Padres is a great way to kill twenty minutes.


I love RBI Baseball 2 for head-to-head play. Usually you get some nice pitcher's duels!
   25. spycake Posted: September 14, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5744430)
Anybody play Baseball Simulator 1.000 for the NES? (Or the "Super" variant for the Super NES?)

You could create and save 6 custom teams, and play/simulate a full season with stat tracking.

You could also play with the "ultra" teams for some fun (missile hits, bomb hits, crazy pitches, etc.).

Also different stadiums! Loved the dome and space.
   26. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 14, 2018 at 01:39 PM (#5744441)
Trying to think of all the baseball games I've owned and played over the years.....

Intellivision
Statis Pro for Commodore 64
Earl Weaver Baseball (probably cost me ~ 0.15 of GPA my freshman year of college but so totally worth it)
Pursue the Pennant / Diamond Mind
OOTP
Baseball Mogul
Strat-O-Matic (currently what's taking up my free time)
High Heat
Vaguely recall some CD-ROM game called Old Time Baseball
Tony LaRussa
Lance Haffner

and I'm sure there's at least a half a dozen more I'm forgetting. I'm pretty much a PC gamer. Never got into the console scene, other than Mom and Dad being surprisingly early adopters for Intellivision.
   27. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 14, 2018 at 02:07 PM (#5744461)
Wow, what a trip down memory lane. The list helps me realize that I've played a huge number of baseball games in my life.

They state APBA died in 2008, but 5.75 came out a few years ago.
   28. Dale Sams Posted: September 14, 2018 at 07:37 PM (#5744646)
MLB the show 2009: Won WS

Front Page Sports: *Eventually* won WS. Did a historical draft, that was fun.

OOTP: Still havent won after five years of game time. Made the ALCS three times though.

MVP 2005: It was this game and not directly the Sox winning in 2004 that got me back into baseball. There was no other team more like (maybe Yanks) an EPL soccer team. "Tessie" is even a pub song of sorts. Won the WS, Manny broke the HR record and Tim Wakefield won MVP and CY award.

Baseball Mogul: Liked it but it just devolves after a few years. Weird glitches and such. The board mods even nicely apologized about that. I played like 8 years of game time, playing every single AB. Not every pitch but every AB. I dont even do that with OOTP. There I auto play the first five innings.



   29. John DiFool2 Posted: September 14, 2018 at 08:22 PM (#5744659)
Baseball Mogul had some weird quirks that would ultimately dissolve my suspension of disbelief: older pitchers invariably lost their "movement" more than velocity or command; movement would have far greater an effect than has subsequently been discovered; it was far too easy to crank your scouting up enough to be virtually sure of reading the ability and thus future of any prospect (tho occ. they would suddenly "lose" it). I could easily build massive 5+ championship dynasties without too much trouble unless I was in a very small market.
   30. Dale Sams Posted: September 14, 2018 at 08:47 PM (#5744667)
I did love in Baseball Mogul how i would discover random one-season wonders from the 70's who in real life would invariably meet some tragic end. Of course i didn't love they met a tragic end, but that i'd discovered some guy i never heard of.

Also injuries realistically affecting careers was cool. I still recall breaking Jerry Koosman.

As for OOTP. Have they addressed:

Historical minor leagues? If i start a 2004 Red Sox team, do i have their full minor league team or do i insert players pretty much out of the draft (or maybe after one year of seasoning) like in OOTP16?

Have they made more realistic historical financial rules? And the dumbest of nitpicks: 2005 repeated exactly like IRL with Red Sox and Yanks tying at 95-67. But rather than giving the title to the winner of head-to-head play (yes they did it like that back then) they made us play an extra game.
   31. vortex of dissipation Posted: September 14, 2018 at 08:52 PM (#5744672)
The Strat-O-Matic computer version doesn't count? Text based rather than a "real" video game?
   32. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: September 14, 2018 at 10:34 PM (#5744727)
Betcha can't guess what my favorite baseball video game was back in the day!
   33. Dale Sams Posted: September 14, 2018 at 10:48 PM (#5744733)
Betcha can't guess what my favorite baseball video game was back in the day!


Coleco Head-to-Head? Mattell baseball?
   34. AndrewJ Posted: September 14, 2018 at 10:52 PM (#5744737)
Ah, MicroLeague Baseball, which got me kicked out of the high school computer club permanently for playing it on school computers during school hours. But hey, 33 years later I'm not BITTER about the fascist police state abusing me or anything...
   35. Greg K Posted: September 15, 2018 at 07:14 AM (#5744775)
Anybody play Baseball Simulator 1.000 for the NES? (Or the "Super" variant for the Super NES?)

That was a fun one (played the NES version)

I remember the "lead ball". Your pitch would just turn to a hunk of metal, destroying any bat it touched.
   36. Greg K Posted: September 15, 2018 at 07:16 AM (#5744776)
MVP 2005: It was this game and not directly the Sox winning in 2004 that got me back into baseball. There was no other team more like (maybe Yanks) an EPL soccer team. "Tessie" is even a pub song of sorts. Won the WS, Manny broke the HR record and Tim Wakefield won MVP and CY award.

MVP 2005 had the best hitting of any video game I've ever played. I remember I jacked up the computer pitching to the point that I had to work every count and get the pitch I was looking for to have a prayer at solid contact.

The pitching was a bit too simple...if you could take MVP 2005 hitting, and marry it to the stick-swinging pitching they have these days, I might actually buy an Xbox/Playstation just to play it.
   37. AndrewJ Posted: September 15, 2018 at 08:20 AM (#5744781)
Old Time Baseball was a great game for the Windows95 era. They should bring it back. IIRC I got it in a bundle which included the Bill James Encyclopedia for Windows, which Baseball-Reference.com obliterated.

It's low-tech, but I enjoy WhatIf Sports for a historical simulation...

   38. spycake Posted: September 15, 2018 at 12:58 PM (#5744821)
That was a fun one (played the NES version)

I remember the "lead ball". Your pitch would just turn to a hunk of metal, destroying any bat it touched.


I liked the missile hit -- was a guaranteed line drive HR in the space stadium!

There were ultra fielding plays too, like the rocket jump. Very satisfying when timed correctly.
   39. Rusty Priske Posted: September 15, 2018 at 01:02 PM (#5744823)
Video games bore me, but I play OOTP every day and have done so for the past 5-6 years.

I play strat too (in the non-computer category), but OOTP is my addiction. I currently have seven 'dynasties' running at once.
   40. Baldrick Posted: September 15, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5744848)
Anybody play Baseball Simulator 1.000 for the NES? (Or the "Super" variant for the Super NES?)

I played many many hours of this one. Loved the super pitches, but more than anything loved that you could track whole seasons.

RBI Baseball is still my all-time favorite. Used to have epic tournaments with my best friend in HS playing RBI baseball.
   41. spycake Posted: September 15, 2018 at 05:12 PM (#5744899)
I played many many hours of this one. Loved the super pitches, but more than anything loved that you could track whole seasons.


Yup. I definitely used Baseball Simulator 1.000 as a primitive "sim" -- made 6 edit teams from 1 real MLB division, then simmed a 165 game season. I recall it didn't have to play the games in real-time simply to sim them and collect the stats, but it still took a fair amount of time!
   42. spycake Posted: September 15, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5744900)
RBI for the NES was my first, and I remember those rosters well. But I was really excited when I found RBI 2 with all 26 teams!
   43. JJ1986 Posted: September 15, 2018 at 07:18 PM (#5744933)
Historical minor leagues? If i start a 2004 Red Sox team, do i have their full minor league team or do i insert players pretty much out of the draft (or maybe after one year of seasoning) like in OOTP16?
I had the same complaint and a poster here told me the fix. There's a box to check when creating the game that says something like "use real minor leagues."
   44. Jacob Posted: September 16, 2018 at 03:53 AM (#5745019)
Baseball Stars is the game I remember as being the favorite. I remember my brother sitting his star player for the last game to ensure a batting title. heh It was my idea.

I enjoyed VR Baseball '99. I liked how, among other things, it tracked the pitches. I'd make a bunch of trades. I'd set up my team with some shitty players (Larry Sutton was our star player) in the NL West. Set up the 2nd & 3rd best teams as the NL East & West division winners. The best team ( with all the best players, I think Larry Walker was the #1) was the Oakland A's, who always won it all. I never made the World Series in 3 or 4 tries. The NL West had the next strongest teams. All the other NL teams were the next best. The AL West was tops in the AL for Interleague play. I have another season saved & ready to start.

I've been playing Baseball Mogul 2006. I haven't checked if there are newer, FREE versions. I have OOTP8, but I never figured out how to play.
   45. McCoy Posted: September 16, 2018 at 09:29 AM (#5745028)
There was a PlayStation baseball game that predetermined how many wins and losses each team would have in the season. So if you were playing as the Chicago Cubs and you won 20 in a row by manually playing the game and then summer the next 10 you would lose those 10 games as the computer would attempt to get you back to the winning percentage you were supposed to have. Discovered this flaw about half way into a season I was playing and never picked it up again out of disgust for such a simple and horrible flaw that could have been avoided

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