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Sunday, May 29, 2011

Bautista, Danks exchange verbal barbs in Jays’ blowout

(quickly checks Walters’ The Children of Nuggets for any Verbal Barbs sides)

The Toronto Blue Jays were leading Danks and his Chicago White Sox 9-2 in the fourth inning when Bautista popped up a full-count fastball. The Jays slugger slammed his bat into the turf in disgust and used a few choice words to berate himself.

Danks was displeased. He said something. Bautista said something back.

This is what Danks said he said:

“I just told him to run the bases. He was out there acting like a f—–g clown. I told him to run the bases. He’s a good player. He’s had a great year and a half, no doubt, he’s been one of the best hitters in the league. He was out there acting like he’s Babe Ruth or something. That’s horses–t, I think.”

And this too:

“He isn’t that good to be acting like he needs to hit every ball out of the ballpark. That’s just the way I feel. I have pride. I really do. I’ve had a pretty crappy year to this point but I have pride still and I’m not going to let him sit out there and show me up like that. I just told him run the bases and quit acting like a clown.”

Repoz Posted: May 29, 2011 at 09:54 PM | 43 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. rfloh Posted: May 29, 2011 at 10:26 PM (#3840602)
MLB player acting like a sore loser clown accuses another MLB player of acting like a clown
   2. Erix Posted: May 29, 2011 at 10:26 PM (#3840603)
He isn’t that good to be acting like he needs to hit every ball out of the ballpark.


Oh yeah?
   3. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: May 29, 2011 at 10:42 PM (#3840606)
Was Babe Ruth well known for slamming his bat down in disgust and verbally berating himself after popping up pitches?
   4. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: May 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM (#3840610)
“I just told him to run the bases. He was out there acting like a f—–g clown. I told him to run the bases. He’s a good player. He’s had a great year and a half, no doubt, he’s been one of the best hitters in the league. He was out there acting like he’s Babe Ruth or something. That’s horses–t, I think.”


So is big-dogging on an opposing player, especially when you're getting your teeth kicked in. Just shut the hell up and play baseball.
   5. Into the Void Posted: May 29, 2011 at 10:53 PM (#3840612)
Don't want him to slam his bat in frustration after making an out? Let him hit a home run off of you.
   6. My Grate Friend Peason's pants are rankled Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM (#3840618)
Chass: BARB-FIGHT DRAWS OUT BAUTISTA'S ROID RAGE, MR. PRESIDENT
   7. RJ in TO Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3840626)
Of course Bautista was upset about popping up. If Hill, Encarnacion, and Patterson can all hit shots off of Danks, then Jose should have been able to put one into the upper deck.
   8. Nolan Giesbrecht Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3840630)
Bautista comes off decidedly better in the article than Danks:

After Bautista singled home a run in the first inning, veteran White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson suggested on-air that the home-run leader might be corking his bat.



Also from the story is this tidbit about Harrelson:
After Bautista singled home a run in the first inning, veteran White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson suggested on-air that the home-run leader might be corking his bat.
   9.     Hey Gurl Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM (#3840631)
What is Danks upset about? What a whiny #####.
   10. RJ in TO Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:29 PM (#3840638)
What is Danks upset about?

That the Jays beat him like a drum.
   11. Obo Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#3840640)
What is Danks upset about?

I'm pretty sure he's upset about being 0-8. So he lashes out at something minor and now he looks whiny on top of everything else. I expect most of us have been there, in our own way.
   12. RJ in TO Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#3840645)
I'm pretty sure he's upset about being 0-8.

On the plus side, after today's bombing, he now has an ERA that matches his record.
   13. Kiko Sakata Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM (#3840647)
That the Jays beat him like a drum.


And that he's 0-8 this year. Yeah, yeah, W-L record is overrated, but John Danks has had a tough combination of lousy pitching and lousy luck all season. That'll make a lot of people testy. [that said, of course, I agree with #9, Danks is a whiny ##### here.]
   14. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#3840649)
Don't want him to slam his bat in frustration after making an out? Let him hit a home run off of you.


Nice.

Didn't this same thing happen last year, with another pitcher getting huffy because a batter got pissed at himself for making an out? Seems like a strange thing to get pissed about to me.
   15.     Hey Gurl Posted: May 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#3840650)
Side note: in two games, Corey Patterson raised his slash-stats from .268/.305/.421 to .301/.333/.477
   16. asdf1234 Posted: May 30, 2011 at 12:09 AM (#3840665)
I can understand being irritated when a hitter reacts to an out pitch as though it's a meatball. If you've got to react petulantly, though, just channel Joaquín Andújar the next time you retire him.
   17. Good cripple hitter Posted: May 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM (#3840670)
Also from the story is this tidbit about Harrelson:

After Bautista singled home a run in the first inning, veteran White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson suggested on-air that the home-run leader might be corking his bat.


The best part is the next paragraph:

"In a seemingly unrelated incident, Harrelson made a special trip to the Toronto clubhouse after the game and fawningly introduced himself to Bautista. The two chatted for a few minutes. Apparently, the content of Bautista’s bat did not come up."

Corey Patterson's been surprisingly cromulent. I'm actually enjoying having him on this team. His basestealing has been putrid, but he's been more productive than I would've thought.
   18. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: May 30, 2011 at 12:24 AM (#3840677)
I can understand being irritated when a hitter reacts to an out pitch as though it's a meatball.
Haven't seen video -- is it possible Bautista was pissed that he swung at ball 4, or was it clearly a strike?

Regardless, STFU Danks. I mean do hitters get pissed when a pitcher visibly slumps after he's just given up a rocket?
   19. Walt Davis Posted: May 30, 2011 at 12:54 AM (#3840693)
Side note: in two games, Corey Patterson raised his slash-stats from .268/.305/.421 to .301/.333/.477

Must have had a chat with Kevin Long. :-)

I'm not giving Bautista any props here. It is a mildly jerky and definitely childish thing to do -- ahead by a ton and reacting like you should have murdered that piece of crap pitch. Danks doesn't come off any better.

Anyway, had a similar thing happen at a bridge tournament yesterday (you can feel the excitement). Someone we know was giving my partner and I some friendly #### about our "pathetic" performance of finishing only in the top half when a woman sitting next to us got upset because she and her partner had done well for themselves by finishing the same as us.

Ya gotta know your audience!
   20. A Random 8-Year-Old Eskimo Posted: May 30, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#3840718)
Bautista has done this before and will do it again. By all accounts he's a very nice and humble person, but he's quietly confident in his abilities and he's competitive during games. IIRC, the pitch wasn't ball four, but was a pretty hittable pitch, particularly to someone who is hitting as well as Bautista has been. Also, he did run the bases. It was a infield pop fly and Bautista was near first by the time the ball was caught, as he went around the back of the mound on the way back to the dugout.

I don't see it as a particularly big problem. I've seen lots of other players behave similarly, including Juan Rivera who let out an audible expletive after striking out on a pitch in the dirt today.

I can understand why Danks was frustrated, both at today's game and at his season as a whole, but I don't think his comments were warranted. As 18 pointed out, how often do hitters call out pitchers for standing there in a slump and swearing into their gloves instead of backing up a base when they've surrendered a hit or a homer?
   21. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 30, 2011 at 02:12 AM (#3840722)
Apparently, the content of Bautista’s bat did not come up."


TMI.
   22. asinwreck Posted: May 30, 2011 at 02:14 AM (#3840724)
John, I'm less upset about Bautista hotdogging it than your inability to get a ####### curveball over. Given the meatballs you were serving up today, I fully understand Jose's frustration at wasting one.

Speculation has Phil Humber moving to the bullpen soon to end the six-man rotation, but why Danks keeps his spot is a mystery to me. He's started to earn his won-loss record.
   23. ptodd Posted: May 30, 2011 at 07:21 AM (#3840815)
Danks wants everyone to act like JD Drew and look like they don't care. LOL.

So many pitchers show up hitters celebrating getting a key out, they should be lucky hitters are not going after them and removing their heads.

Looks like danks was throwing some meatballs. He should thank his lucky stars he missed the Red Sox at Fenway. Their bats have not been missing much of late unless you throw 100 mph.
   24. Walt Davis Posted: May 30, 2011 at 09:17 AM (#3840822)
why Danks keeps his spot is a mystery to me

I'm not very good at channeling Guillen, but I'm going with 608 IP at a 125 ERA+ from 2008-10 as my guess.

That said ... he might be hurt. Only 9 Ks in his last 27 IP. OK, it's only 27 IP, but it's under half his usual rate and I can't find a month even close to it over the last 3 years.
   25. Walt Davis Posted: May 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM (#3840825)
So many pitchers show up hitters celebrating getting a key out, they should be lucky hitters are not going after them and removing their heads.

Pitchers get called on this stuff all the time. Also I don't know if you meant to say it but you said "key out". This wasn't a key AB, the Jays were ahead 9-2. Pitchers who celebrate Ks when they have big leads get called out in the game and the media. Who was it who used to do the blowing on his gun thing? I recall he got into all sorts of trouble. K-Rod's celebration is pretty widely despised and Brian Wilson doesn't seem to have a lot of fans for his.
   26. Rusty Priske Posted: May 30, 2011 at 12:43 PM (#3840833)
Wait a minute... shouldn't pitchers WANT the hitters to be frustrated about not being able to drive a pitch? Doesn't that mean the pitcher is doing his job?

(Maybe it has been so long that Danks doesn't recognize what it is like to do his job well...)
   27. Pepe Posted: May 30, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3841117)
I'm sorry? A clown is criticizing someone else for acting like a clown when he's 0-8 himself? Maybe he ought to win a few games and not hurt his team so much before he gets to beef about someone else's actions.

And, last I checked, Bautista has a .350 average with 20 home runs in 45 games a year after hitting 54 home runs. He *IS* Babe Ruth.
   28. Kyle S Posted: May 31, 2011 at 12:01 AM (#3841149)
I can definitely see Danks' pov. If you are up 9-2, just play the game. Don't celebrate a home run or fist pump after a strikeout. Don't throw a tantrum if the ump calls ball 4 or strike 3. Things don't always go your way, so don't act petulant when they don't. It's not like he just missed hitting a game winning homer off mo Rivera.

Danks has had a tough season and was super frustrated. I'll give him a pass.
   29. steagles Posted: May 31, 2011 at 12:07 AM (#3841152)
Chass: BARB-FIGHT DRAWS OUT BAUTISTA'S ROID RAGE, MR. PRESIDENT
this is the worst meme in the history of BBTF. it seriously needs to die in a fire.
   30. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: May 31, 2011 at 04:03 AM (#3841321)
Don't throw a tantrum if the ump calls ball 4 or strike 3.


Or throw a tantrum if a guy isn't exactly as decorous about every moment of the game as you wish he was. I can empathize with the frustration, but a dude needs to be able to shut the #### up.
   31. Ron J Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:05 PM (#3841461)
#27
Split              G     PA      AB       R       H      2B    3B     HR     RBI     SB     CS     BB     SO       BA      OBP       SLG     
Last 365days     154     673     549     116     160     32     2     58     121     11     3     113     101     .291     .419     .674 


Ruth in his prime (1919-1932):
Average         139     621     488     135     172     30     8     45     136      8      8     124     
per 162 games   163     722     567     157     201     35     10     53     158     10     10     145     86     .354     .487     .726 


EDIT: Formatting
   32. Guapo Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:18 PM (#3841467)
this is the worst meme in the history of BBTF. it seriously needs to die in a fire.


Chass: HOW SOON WE FORGET THE GAY PIAZZA JOKES, MR. PRESIDENT
   33. simon bedford Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:33 PM (#3841473)
Chass: BEARDED WIZARD NOTHING TO BEHOLD, MR. PRESIDENT
   34. steagles Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:40 PM (#3841476)
Chass: HOW SOON WE FORGET THE GAY PIAZZA JOKES, MR. PRESIDENT
Chass: BEARDED WIZARD NOTHING TO BEHOLD, MR. PRESIDENT
it's not funny. it's not amusing. it's annoying. stop it, or i'll bury you alive in a box.
   35. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:42 PM (#3841479)
Chass: ITS A TRAP, MR. PRESIDENT
   36. Dudefella Posted: May 31, 2011 at 02:46 PM (#3841485)
Chass: JOHN MABRY???!?!!, MR. PRESIDENT?
   37. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: May 31, 2011 at 03:11 PM (#3841502)
Chass: STEAGLES WOULD LISTEN IF YOU CALLED ABOUT ENDING THIS MEME, MR PRESIDENT
   38. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: May 31, 2011 at 03:22 PM (#3841506)
Chass: STEAGLES' HANDLES NO MEME OF HONOR, MR. PRESIDENT
   39. Bug Selig Posted: June 01, 2011 at 02:53 PM (#3842406)
Never saw Murray Chass die in a fire.
   40. Eddo Posted: June 01, 2011 at 03:27 PM (#3842433)
Ruth in his prime (1919-1932):
Average         139     621     488     135     172     30     8     45     136      8      8     124     
per 162 games   163     722     567     157     201     35     10     53     158     10     10     145     86     .354     .487     .726 

Babe Ruth was so great he averaged 163 games per 162 games.
   41. Ron J Posted: June 01, 2011 at 03:46 PM (#3842453)
#40 Nice catch. I wonder if it's a weird rounding thing or if I did something "clever".
   42. CraigK Posted: June 01, 2011 at 03:46 PM (#3842455)
To be fair, Murray started it.
   43. McCoy Posted: June 01, 2011 at 03:48 PM (#3842457)
Corey Patterson's been surprisingly cromulent. I'm actually enjoying having him on this team.

I don't see how he gets up to that level. Before his two games where he went 9 for 12 with 2 homers he was hitting something like .696 OPS for the month of May and that was with an 11 game and 5 game hit streak included.

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