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Friday, May 02, 2014

BBTF 2014 Softball Game

Time again for Softball!

Just quickly because I’m traveling now, but here are the details:

June 21st at Central Park in New York, specifically Field #11 in the North Meadow. Game time is 1 pm to 4 pm. I think the Orioles are in town that weekend to face the Yankees. I’ll be gone for another week but someone else can start herding cats ASAP as there’s not a lot of lead time for this game, unfortunately.

Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: May 02, 2014 at 03:44 PM | 550 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   301. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: June 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM (#4732074)
And if you're running down the line and you see Tufts standing in your way just give up and be out.


It was my safety school!
   302. billyshears Posted: June 21, 2014 at 01:39 AM (#4732114)
Wish I could make it this year, but I moved today and it's going to take me at least a week to empty enough boxes to clear a path to leave my apartment. Next year though.
   303. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:15 AM (#4732131)
Sorry for the late notice, former best friends, meant to give the official 'no' yesterday so as not to ruin too many smiles when parks peeps begin checking this thread today. But...I'm a 'no'. Still walking off this week's stomach illness and not yet ready to run around in the sun for three hours and feel like crap. Have an ok time.
   304. Lassus Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:43 AM (#4732138)
MCoy, if checking this thread, check your email.
   305. djordan Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:09 AM (#4732144)
Looking forward to it. Will be there.
   306. GregD Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:17 AM (#4732171)
sorry to slip from "maybe" to "no" but hope you guys have a blast. It's an amazingly beautiful day
   307. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4732173)
Enjoy, guys. I've already put in a few hours of work and have to be available between 10:30 PM and whenever my Indian colleagues finish their work. :(
   308. Karl from NY Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4732174)
I'm in. Leaving home now.
   309. CrosbyBird Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:27 AM (#4732176)
Just woke up and I should make the 1pm start. I couldn't find my glove, though. Hope there's an extra lefty glove floating around.

Also, I am almost certain to be the worst softball player in the group, so set your expectations properly.
   310. Karl from NY Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:36 AM (#4732181)
I've got sunscreen so all of us pasty white dorks can stay properly pasty white.
   311. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: June 21, 2014 at 11:42 AM (#4732183)
I'm in. See y'all in an hour or so.
   312. thetailor Posted: June 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM (#4732198)
I'm on my way also but I underestimated the distance to the field. I should be there at like 1:05 and if you don't want me to die I'll need some time to stretch.
   313. Lassus Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:01 PM (#4732420)
Back from the game, and sore.

Sorry I couldn't make it to the bar, but we are staying in a fun hotel (thanks to McCoy) in the shadow of the new WTC and have to hook up with someone to pick up our ballet tickets, so time was not permitting.

Pictures soon.
   314. villageidiom Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:25 PM (#4732434)
Excellent games, and great to meet everyone.

Was Howie the only injury? Other than injured pride, I mean.
   315. catomi01 Posted: June 21, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4732443)
Sorry I missed this - hope to be there next year.
   316. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: June 21, 2014 at 06:27 PM (#4732463)
That was a real good time. Apologies for ducking out pre-bar; had to do some work before a friend's 30th birthday party. Would've loved to hang out.
   317. Ron J Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:06 PM (#4732477)
So who kept score and why hasn't it been posted yet you slackers.
   318. villageidiom Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4732486)
The Shooty All-Stars - also known as No True Outcomes - won both games, despite embedded pitcher McCoy showing less than full no effort to field the position. I don't know the scores, but I assure you they were impressive. Well, not the second game. The second game was played with haste, as though it occurred to everyone that the game was the only thing keeping them from the bar. Or maybe because we are out of shape and couldn't hit the ball out of the infield after exhausting ourselves in game 1.
   319. thetailor Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:44 PM (#4732491)
First game was 6-4 bad guys. Good guys held a 3-2 lead for a few innings before a four run inning (the fifth?) doomed them. Good guys scored 1 to make it closer, but 6-4 held when the guys in the lead decided the game would be 7 innings.

Second game was an even lower scoring affair. This is solely because of amazing defense of course- not because the hitting was terrible. Bad guys took a 1-0 lead, good guys tied it on Epstein's wild dash, but Bad guys ultimately won 3-1.

Couldn't ask for much more than that! Two games decided by two runs apiece- no blowouts and no injuries. It was great meeting you all! I am sure that now since you've seen me play you realize that the height is really no help at the plate when you have awful hand eye coordination!
   320. Karl from NY Posted: June 21, 2014 at 07:53 PM (#4732504)
Was Howie the only injury? Other than injured pride, I mean.

I got a blister on my pitching hand, and a scraped shin on one dive. No big deal. Battle scars of pride in fact.
   321. McCoy Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:20 PM (#4732515)
I'm the rick rueschel of pitcher fielding.
   322. Obo Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:21 PM (#4732516)
Fun times once again. It was great to see everyone - lots of familiar faces from last year plus a few new ones.

Second game was an even lower scoring affair. This is solely because of amazing defense of course- not because the hitting was terrible.


It was hard to hit a ball out of that infield. Either it was huge or I'm getting old.

Thanks to Shooty for organizing the event.
   323. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:35 PM (#4732521)

Thanks to Shooty for organizing the event.

Seconded. Glad I was finally able to make it to one of these and great to put some faces to names (and names to BTF handles).
   324. thetailor Posted: June 21, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4732524)
I don't know if anyone has any interest in doing this but I'd love to be able to try to solidify this name-face-handle situation. Maybe we could list the batting orders so it makes sense? I know part of ours.

3 - CrosbyBird - RF
4 - Zop - 3B
5 - thetailor - Brian - SS
6 - Karl - 2B
8 - McCoy - CF

I understand if thats a little too invasive or weird but it'll do a lot to help me recall. Yes? No?
   325. Obo Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:06 PM (#4732527)
Good chance we'll have an annotated team photo posted somewhere online at some point.
   326. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:48 PM (#4732538)
1 - Hysterical & Useless 1B
2 - Sam (son of the above) LF
3 - CrosbyBird - RF
4 - Zop - 3B
5 - thetailor - Brian - SS
6 - Karl - 2B
8 - McCoy - CF
9 - JE (because he didn't arrive until like 3:30) rover
   327. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:55 PM (#4732540)
Thanks to all who attended. Those who couldn't make it, we missed you. Especially Blastin, cause I was expecting him to relieve me halfway through the 2nd game. Might have saved my shoe from coming apart.

Took one hard grounder off the shin (do I go with "Bad hop!" or the Billy Loes defense?), which is a might sore, but won't know the full extent of the damage to legs & feet until tomorrow. Although the first view looks like I'll only lose 1 toenail this year.
   328. Howie Menckel Posted: June 21, 2014 at 09:55 PM (#4732541)
Howie report:

I came through for all by having the BBTF official photog (ok, the girl who took pictures) take a shot of my wounded knee twice - one should look brown from dirt just after falling, then an inning later the red shone through. I know if someone else pulled this, I'd want photos!

took a half-dozen pre-game swings and shocked myself (and, well, everyone I suppose) by not missing a single pitch. hit the last one real hard, and quit that part while I was ahead.

then the game begins.

while throwing (like a girl, after always having a good arm as a younger man) and fielding (questionable if I'd catch a decently-hit ball) were dismal, I felt comfy at the plate.

Too comfy.

I've been hedging on this game for months knowing that I haven't played an inning in 20 years (recalled during game it was 22; and I broke two metacarpals in my left hand late in that game when the oafish LF landed on me like a ton of bricks following a collision that was my fault).

I now know my fears were justified, lol, and only once did I forget I was not 25 anymore.

That would be in my first AB, when I hit what (seemed to me like) a rocket to the right side (I'm a lefty). I pounced out of the box with a first step that mirrored what hitting that ball felt like - young again.

But the second step was - trouble, and I was fortunate to get a third and possibly a partial fourth step before falling forward. I gutted out the rest of the day (well, mostly I caught in a game that doesn't really need a catcher and sprayed groundouts all over the infield. And I was promised beer at the end).

Gotta admit, did not love the cleaning up of the wound upon arriving home, which is why my friend Sam Adams is here!

My observation: everybody should occasionally do something they are absolutely terrible at. It humbles you, but you feel good about getting out of your comfort zone. And best of all, you provide massive comic relief for everyone else involved.

Big thanks to Shooty for getting the field and herding cats, and thanks to all for putting up with my ineptitude. And while I chuckled at someone posting the other day that given some of the catcalling in the political threads, having BBTFers meet up with bats involved might be worth seeing - well, you couldn't find a more congenial, witty, and friendly bunch.

   329. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:12 AM (#4732566)
Sounds like a great time! Missing this year's game is great incentive for me to get serious now about getting my knee in shape for next year's softball season and to get on a non-ridiculous project.
   330. Lassus Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:29 AM (#4732572)
SS/pitcher - Lassus.

While many of you by now know my name, I like keeping it off here for whatever dumb reason.
   331. CrosbyBird Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:17 AM (#4732586)
My first name is Jordan.

I went 4-for-7 with a run scored if errors count as hits. If errors don't count as hits, I went 0-for-7 with a run scored and 4 ROE. I also forgot the number of outs on what ended up being the last play of the game and ran on contact for an easy double play, but that got us to beer a little faster so I ultimately have no regrets. It really was a great time and I'm very glad that I showed up this year.

I look forward to seeing that photo.
   332. villageidiom Posted: June 22, 2014 at 08:50 AM (#4732606)
1 - Shooty - LF - A's hat, shark t-shirt
2 - snapper - 1B - NYY Mantle shirt
3 - Greg K - 3B - White Sox pants, A's hat, red shirt
4 - villageidiom - roaming - Expos shirt, Red Sox hat

... I don't remember the rest, because I was delirious from running the bases.
   333. JE (Jason) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 08:52 AM (#4732607)
Sorry for being so late, fellas. I blame Kimbrel for grooving a pitch to Rendon, thereby making Friday night's game go 13 innings.

Thanks to Shooty for organizing the event.

Thirded.

Sounds like a great time! Missing this year's game is great incentive for me to get serious now about getting my knee in shape for next year's softball season and to get on a non-ridiculous project.

We really could have used your superior signature-writing abilities when the server brought over the check. :)

By the way, a dinner meeting that was slated for tomorrow just got nixed. If anyone's interested, I'm thinking of walking to Manhattan Proper (6 Murray Street, two blocks south of Chambers) at 5pm to watch the second half of either Brazil-Cameroon or Croatia-Mexico....
   334. Howie Menckel Posted: June 22, 2014 at 09:43 AM (#4732614)

1 - Shooty - LF - A's hat, shark t-shirt
2 - snapper - 1B - NYY Mantle shirt
3 - Greg K - 3B - White Sox pants, A's hat, red shirt
4 - villageidiom - roaming - Expos shirt, Red Sox hat

I was somewhere around 8 - mostly C - Hambo hat, blue shirt, red knee
   335. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4732625)
1 - Hysterical & Useless 1B
2 - Sam (son of the above) LF
3 - CrosbyBird - RF
4 - Zop - 3B
5 - thetailor - Brian - SS
6 - Karl - 2B
7 - McCoy - CF
8 - Never Give an Inge (Dave) - CF
9 - JE (because he didn't arrive until like 3:30) rover

I would say I was the guy in the Mets hat but that wouldn't distinguish me in this bunch. I was wearing the royal blue t-shirt and dark blue shorts.
   336. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 10:42 AM (#4732626)
I also would appreciate anyone who got my full name / employer not posting that here. Thanks guys and once again, great meeting all of you.
   337. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 11:06 AM (#4732635)
Howie neglects to mention that he scored the winning run in Game 2.
   338. GregD Posted: June 22, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4732661)
Sorry I failed to be there. Weekend days are almost impossible for me now w my kids ages and schedules

But I would be game for evening drinks any time
   339. djordan Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4732677)
Had such a great time at the game yesterday. Sorry I had jet after drinks @ The Ale House. Really, really enjoyed playing with you guys. Everyone took it seriously without intensity, which is what friendly softball should be about. Thanks to Canada for making the trek to hang out; thanks to McCoy & JE as well for traveling to make this happen. Howie, loved the story about the flyball. Shooty, thanks so much for coordinating this effort. Really happy we all had a chance to play (and drink) together.
   340. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4732681)
If Lassus-whose-real-name-shall-remained-shrouded-in-mystery sends me photos (I assume "girlfriend photographer" was with him again this year, both because I know she was there and I like to maintain my belief that only one of any sample of 25 BTF'ers gathered at any one time could have a "girlfriend") I'll post them to the blog (that hasn't been updated since last year's game) and link to them here.
   341. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4732696)
I'm guessing that this thread can be un-stickyed on the Newsstand home page now?
   342. JE (Jason) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4732706)
I'm guessing that this thread can be un-stickyed on the Newsstand home page now?

To be replaced with next year's BBTF softball game announcement, you sourpuss!
   343. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4732725)
Thanks to everyone for coming out. Weirdly, I'm not very sore today which means I gave less that 100% effort yesterday. I'm sorry! Anyway, thanks for the great day and looking forward to next year's already.
   344. Lassus Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:29 PM (#4732739)
"Not a lot of hustle. Everyone wants to hit the ball and jog around."

- Observer of game known for making ballet students cry on a regular basis.
   345. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4732745)
"Not a lot of hustle. Everyone wants to hit the ball and jog around."

I'm pretty sure what she views as a "jog" is full speed for most of us.
   346. JE (Jason) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4732749)
But I would be game for evening drinks any time

As noted above, Greg, it looks like I'll be at Manhattan Proper after work tomorrow. Let me know if you think you can stop by.
   347. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 22, 2014 at 02:59 PM (#4732752)
BTW, the best part of the post-game festivities was discovering Howie used to be the internet.
   348. denDekker, Mattsui (jemile weeks) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4732759)
"Not a lot of hustle. Everyone wants to hit the ball and jog around."


My hammies beg to differ.

Oh, yes, and thanks to Shooty and everyone who hung out. Much like Llewelyn Sinclair's production of "Hats off to Channukah," our play was enjoyed by ALL.
   349. JE (Jason) Posted: June 22, 2014 at 03:31 PM (#4732780)
BTW, the best part of the post-game festivities was discovering Howie used to be the internet.

The astonishing part was that neither he nor anyone else at the sports desk billed callers for the requested info.
   350. Howie Menckel Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:38 PM (#4732826)
It's called customer service!
:)

for those who missed it, I just noted that until the late 1990s, newspaper sports departments would get calls from bars every night for the purpose of settling a bet. The drunks knew that if there was anything we didn't know off the top of our collective heads (unlikely), we had all the sports encyclopedias and local media guides handy instead. And how else would the fate of that 45 bet be decided?

wound up barebacking it re pain medication today (my fallback position, but will confess to a brief search this morning for Advil with my wife down the shore). but by noon, the creakiness was ebbing. at this point, only feel a twinge in my right foot, and some modest back soreness.

the secret, of course, is.... good genetics. When my father was 90, I got him into a B-17 like he flew as a bombardier over Germany in WW II, and he rather easily maneuvered his way in the cramped setting to his nose-of-the-plane prescribed location. although afterwards, in all seriousness, he shook his head and said, "I didn't get around as well today in this plane as I used to." um, it HAD been 65 years.....

I hold no such high standard for myself, obviously.

my favorite post-game moment was Shooty confused about my anti-Notre Dame mini-rant, as a self-confessed 100 pct Irishman. "But [the name] Howie Menckel..." lol

always pick a pseudonym that sounds plausible!

   351. Hysterical & Useless Posted: June 22, 2014 at 04:50 PM (#4732840)
Dave, sorry you got left out of the lineup; I didn't notice it went 5-6-8.

Sorry our spectator was not impressed with the running. Wish I'd had more opportunities to show how poorly I motor, but along about the 4th time you pop out to 3rd you kind of lose the motivation. I've always been a fan of Canada so I really don't know what Greg has against me. Maybe next year I'll try batting left-handed, I'm sure I could get at least one past Snapper.
   352. Lassus Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:45 PM (#4732867)
I'm pretty sure what she views as a "jog" is full speed for most of us.
My hammies beg to differ.
Sorry our spectator was not impressed with the running.


I wouldn't take it personally. I don't know how much you guys know about ballet, but regarding injury and effort the dancers and instructors make old-school baseball managers and hockey players look like hemophiliacs playing croquet.


Regarding recap issues, I'd like to take the lead flat-out and say my throwing freaking sucked, which was annoying. My fielding and hitting went more or less OK, my throwing was pathetic.
   353. boteman Posted: June 22, 2014 at 05:49 PM (#4732868)
#350 - I think H.L. Mencken would be a dead giveaway, so that's out.

I had the pleasure of surprising my father with a jaunt up to an air show one Father's Day. I didn't tell him too much beforehand, but he was enthralled once we arrived and just stood behind the fence relishing in the prop wash as the B-17 swung around in front of us and revved up to taxi out. He flew The Hump in WWII, but wishes he had been at D-Day; I'm thankful he wasn't or I probably wouldn't be here.
   354. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: June 22, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4732986)
We've given my Dad a couple of rounds of B24s. Last year he hung around all day talking to people who came by. At the end of the day, he got a 2nd ride for free. At 90, he said that's the last time he'll be able to climb in -- it was pretty tough for him.
   355. GregD Posted: June 22, 2014 at 08:01 PM (#4733113)
As noted above, Greg, it looks like I'll be at Manhattan Proper after work tomorrow. Let me know if you think you can stop by.

Thanks, Jason. Can't make that either--wife is out of town on business so I am last line of defense against the kids--but hope to catch up some time soon.
   356. Howie Menckel Posted: June 22, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4733131)
"He flew The Hump in WWII, but wishes he had been at D-Day; I'm thankful he wasn't or I probably wouldn't be here."

"We've given my Dad a couple of rounds of B24s."

My dad was very quiet (yeah, I know - my mother was the 'character'), but he once said, "The guys in the Pacific Theater, they're the ones who really had it bad."

seems hard to believe that flying 35 life-risking missions that included one where the co-pilot was killed and the navigator wounded as they hoped and prayed and did limp back to England might qualify as bad. But in literal terms, of course D-Day and Iwo Jima and so much else was so much worse...

and he once also said, "I feel bad for the guys who flew in the B-24s; we got all the attention in the 'Flying Fortess' B-17s."

........

"I don't know how much you guys know about ballet, but regarding injury and effort the dancers and instructors make old-school baseball managers and hockey players look like hemophiliacs playing croquet."

And here I was wondering if I was being inappropriate, asking a dainty young lass to take a closeup of my wounded knee. When I asked for the second photo an inning later, she said, "It looks the same."

That shoulda been my clue - it had gone from brown to red, but I guess neither impressed her - nor the 3 hours I played with that badge of honor thereafter.

who knew those ballet kids were so badass?

:)


   357. Howie Menckel Posted: June 22, 2014 at 10:23 PM (#4733211)

and let's at least leave the post on top of the main site until we finalize those batting orders!
   358. CrosbyBird Posted: June 22, 2014 at 10:58 PM (#4733225)
I wouldn't take it personally. I don't know how much you guys know about ballet, but regarding injury and effort the dancers and instructors make old-school baseball managers and hockey players look like hemophiliacs playing croquet.

Yeah, do a Google image search for "ballet foot problems" if you want to chase away that nagging desire to eat.
   359. Howie Menckel Posted: June 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM (#4733242)
but was there UNATTENDED BLOOD for 3 hours?

I've broken 2 metacarpals, a collarbone, four fingers in all separate incidents, and had five stitches incidents in my life. this was a flesh wound.

I say BBTF 2015 fields an All-Star team of us v these "tough guy" dancers, lol, competition of their choice

for all the marbles, and if pain tolerance is a category, suddenly I become relevant again - bring those slightly twisted ankles on, my friends, and there's no pouting in this competition!

   360. Ray (RDP) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4733260)
Sorry I couldn't make it, guys. Glad you had fun.

As I said maybe we could organize another one for September, or in another city.
   361. CrosbyBird Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:13 AM (#4733263)
Your absence was noted, Ray. A few of us were talking about meeting up for drinks one night in the city. Maybe you'll join up with us.
   362. Greg K Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:06 AM (#4733308)
Thanks to Shooty for organizing the event.

39thed.

And also for the couch to sleep on! And he only charged $400, which he assures me was half the cost of the cheapest hotel in the city.

My dad has also confirmed that he did on several occasions call up the sports desk at the local newspaper from the bar to settle bets.
   363. Howie Menckel Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:07 AM (#4733310)

since I've already hurdled the oversharing threshold - ok, lower back is barking today. all else is well, I'll take it!
   364. JE (Jason) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:26 AM (#4733317)
since I've already hurdled the oversharing threshold - ok, lower back is barking today. all else is well, I'll take it!

Are you sure that's not from carrying a beach chair from one side of the porch to the other yesterday? :)
   365. Greg K Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:28 AM (#4733319)
On the injury front I seem to have somehow injured my knee. And my feet aren't great, but that may have something to do with all the walking around the city all weekend.
   366. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:35 AM (#4733323)
And also for the couch to sleep on! And he only charged $400, which he assures me was half the cost of the cheapest hotel in the city.

Hey, I didn't charge you for the water. A real bargain.
   367. JE (Jason) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:37 AM (#4733327)
On the injury front I seem to have somehow injured my knee. And my feet aren't great, but that may have something to do with all the walking around the city all weekend.

I bet Shooty's sofa is to blame. Be sure to mention it on the Trip Advisor review page.
   368. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:43 AM (#4733332)
I bet Shooty's sofa is to blame. Be sure to mention it on the Trip Advisor review page.

It doesn't matter. It's either my couch or the 7 train.
   369. Lassus Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:46 AM (#4733336)
It doesn't matter. It's either my couch or the 7 train.

Listen, crying yourself to sleep on the 7 train is a rite of passage for Mets' fans.

Although perhaps it's the same with your couch. HEY-OH!
   370. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: June 23, 2014 at 08:48 AM (#4733337)
As I said maybe we could organize another one for September, or in another city.


I'm game to organize and host a southeast variant of this debacle - September is a good idea, cause you lot wouldn't do well in the Jawjah summer sun (and honestly, neither would I) - but it would require a good deal of travel from our established NEC All-Stars in order to field a team against whatever dreck from around the southeast I could drag together. (Such an event would involve a lot of Mets fans playing a lot of Braves fans, which would be hilarity.)
   371. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 10:10 AM (#4733401)
whatever dreck from around the southeast I could drag together.


How many of us are there down here? There appear to be a fair number in the Atlanta area. I may be the only Alabama inmate.
   372. JE (Jason) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4733418)
(Such an event would involve a lot of Mets fans playing a lot of Braves fans, which would be hilarity.)

Met fans will want to know ahead of time: What are the unwritten rules in slow-pitch softball?
   373. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:27 PM (#4733533)
What are the unwritten rules in slow-pitch softball?


1. When the batting team supplies their own pitcher, he is to field the position with ordinary effort.

2. The neighborhood rule applies to home plate. That is, if the throw arrives in the neighborhood of home plate before the runner, the runner is out.

3. No run-downs. Just lie down and be tagged. You're not a ninja.

4. If a prior team leaves behind equipment, use it until they figure out what happened.

5. Establish who has responsibility of arranging next year's game before the players hit the bar, because they will be too drunk to remember.

6. Wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it.

7. At least one person should remember to bring a bat.

8. Each infielder is required to botch a throw to first at least once.

9. Use only real names, and not screen names. This provides for maximum confusion.

10. Whether true or not, if someone asks if you have a permit to use the field, you always answer "yes".
   374. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4733536)
8. Each infielder is required to botch a throw to first at least once.

Except the firstbaseman who is to botch a throw to third, after someone has already botched a throw to first.
   375. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4733541)
Okay. Fine. September 20, 2014. Atlanta. Somebody give me a new sticky link on the homepage and we'll see if we can get enough to play.
   376. thetailor Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4733550)
11. Basically, keep running until somebody tags you.
   377. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4733554)
September 20, 2014. Atlanta.


During a homestand against the Mets, looks like.
   378. djordan Posted: June 23, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4733566)
2. The neighborhood rule applies to home plate. That is, if the throw arrives in the neighborhood of home plate before the runner, the runner is out.


Also known as the Bette Midler Rule.

If I may add one, when playing double-headers, the first game must go seven innings and the second eight, of course solely at the discretion of the team in the lead.
   379. JE (Jason) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:04 PM (#4733572)
During a homestand against the Mets, looks like.

Interesting. Does Shooty have a sofa in Atlanta too?
   380. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:06 PM (#4733574)
Interesting. Does Shooty have a sofa in Atlanta too?


Limited sofas may be discovered along and along. None of them shall belong to Shooty, though. But Shooty has to get his ass down here. He is required.
   381. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:09 PM (#4733578)
None of them shall belong to Shooty, though.


Don't speak too soon. We've had problems with carpetbaggers swooping in & snagging all sorts of stuff, you'll recall.
   382. Howie Menckel Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4733607)

Pro tip: Enjoy the first 48 post-game hours, with all the stiffness and general soreness.

It's only after that period that the real pain begins!

   383. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:47 PM (#4733626)
Pro tip: Enjoy the first 48 post-game hours, with all the stiffness and general soreness.

It's only after that period that the real pain begins!


I admit, I am feeling it today.

Another thing I always forget, so someone remind me next year, is that playing with those soft softballs, you need to really over swing.
   384. Greg K Posted: June 23, 2014 at 01:57 PM (#4733640)
Except the firstbaseman who is to botch a throw to third, after someone has already botched a throw to first.

To be fair that was a very simple play I messed up with the old "tag the guy before you have the ball" gag.
   385. Lassus Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:04 PM (#4733645)
I admit, I am feeling it today.

I was pretty sore the day after, but fine today.
   386. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:07 PM (#4733651)
I was pretty sore the day after, but fine today.

I'm worse today than yesterday.

To be fair that was a very simple play I messed up with the old "tag the guy before you have the ball" gag.

The throw was plenty bad too. I should know I don't have the arm to throw to 3B from 20 feet wide of 1B. That's why I'm playing 1B in the first place.
   387. McCoy Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:26 PM (#4733676)
I could do Atlanta on the 20th of September. I can also do an additional hotel room for $29/39 a night out by the airport if I end up staying out there and I can do a lot amount of rooms for about $90 a night in the heart of Atlanta or $60 or so near the airport.

Question for you Atlanta boys. Is it better to spend the extra money to get a hotel room in the heart of Atlanta or is it so spread out that staying at the airport is fine? How about North Druid Hills?

Let's put this together fast so I can start making travel arrangements now. Oddly enough if we put this together right now it would actually be cheaper for me to play a softball game in Atlanta than it is to play a softball game in NYC.

Or if everybody wants to come to DC that is fine as well.
   388. JE (Jason) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:31 PM (#4733682)
To be fair that was a very simple play I messed up with the old "tag the guy before you have the ball" gag.


The throw was plenty bad too. I should know I don't have the arm to throw to 3B from 20 feet wide of 1B. That's why I'm playing 1B in the first place.

More likely, the runner's Billy Hamilton-esque speed surprised and rattled both of you.
   389. McCoy Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4733691)
In DC I think you can play in the President's Park South without a permit. Outside of that I don't know of any cool locales to play softball at. perhaps Andy knows.
   390. Karl from NY Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:47 PM (#4733695)
I'm worse today than yesterday.

Same here. Where did this soreness come from? It's not like we were playing a contact sport. Worst part is the hamstrings which are understandable from running and cutting in the field, but I've also got back and upper arm stiffness that has no reason to be there.
   391. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:51 PM (#4733698)
My arm is sore from lifting pints. I am THAT out of shape.
   392. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:52 PM (#4733699)
Same here. Where did this soreness come from? It's not like we were playing a contact sport. Worst part is the hamstrings which are understandable from running and cutting in the field, but I've also got back and upper arm stiffness that has no reason to be there.

My hamstrings are about the only part of my legs and arms that don't hurt.
   393. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 02:55 PM (#4733704)
My arm is sore from lifting pints. I am THAT out of shape.

That's why you switch to whiskey as you age. Smaller glasses.
   394. Greg K Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:14 PM (#4733721)
More likely, the runner's Billy Hamilton-esque speed surprised and rattled both of you.

That is true. Are we sure that wasn't a ringer called in late in the game?
   395. dlf Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4733730)
Reading this makes me wish I had been there. I'll try to block off 9/20, but the Mrs. seems to want to take a vacation for our 20th anniversary which occurs earlier in that week. If I'm in town, I've got a couple of guest rooms in the Johns Creek area north of town.

I could do Atlanta on the 20th of September. I can also do an additional hotel room for $29/39 a night out by the airport if I end up staying out there and I can do a lot amount of rooms for about $90 a night in the heart of Atlanta or $60 or so near the airport.

Question for you Atlanta boys. Is it better to spend the extra money to get a hotel room in the heart of Atlanta or is it so spread out that staying at the airport is fine? How about North Druid Hills?


The city is very spread out, but none of it is near the airport. I'm afraid of leaving it to Sam H. to pick the fields, but I'm guessing he'll try to go for a centrally located park like Piedmont, Candler or Chastain. You'd be better off staying by Druid Hills than the airport, but the watering holes will depend on the field and I'm guessing you'll want to be closer to the former. Remember, public transportation in Atlanta sucks and it isn't a walkable city at all.
   396. McCoy Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4733731)
Felt fine. It is kind of sad if I'm the only guy who isn't hurting.
   397. McCoy Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:21 PM (#4733733)
Remember, public transportation in Atlanta sucks and it isn't a walkable city at all.

Well, I figured Sam would drive us all around. That Southern hospitality afterall.
   398. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4733736)
If I'm in town, I've got a couple of guest rooms in the Johns Creek area north of town.


Just leave a door key under the mat.
   399. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4733737)
Question for you Atlanta boys. Is it better to spend the extra money to get a hotel room in the heart of Atlanta or is it so spread out that staying at the airport is fine? How about North Druid Hills?


Either in the city or at Druid Hills. The city would be more interesting for post-event shenanigans. Druid Hills would be better for proximity to any field I could likely reserve (unless I can get us into Piedmont.) The airport is a wasteland. (There are actually a few cool up and coming communities down that way, but it's way far away from much of anything and if you take a wrong turn, you can find yourself in untoward neighborhoods rather quickly.)

We need to get this up as a new thread, and we need to spread the notion to the lounge in order to get some or the North Carolinian contingent involved. (I'm looking at Dial here.)
   400. villageidiom Posted: June 23, 2014 at 03:29 PM (#4733744)
To be fair that was a very simple play I messed up with the old "tag the guy before you have the ball" gag.

The throw was plenty bad too. I should know I don't have the arm to throw to 3B from 20 feet wide of 1B. That's why I'm playing 1B in the first place.
About the only throw to first that I made was while mid-coversation with Lassus about something.

And I ache today like I've never ached. Sometimes when exercising after an extended period of inertia I am sore; but this morning I didn't feel sore, I felt old.
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