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The first $50 (that’s at least 2 pies) are on me ...

It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 27, 2019 at 09:33 AM | 67 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JAHV Posted: June 27, 2019 at 10:14 AM (#5856318)
I always love a good pizza, but while I will gladly drive five hours into the Sierras without a second thought, El Segundo seems like a long way from Anaheim for a pizza.
   2. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 27, 2019 at 10:40 AM (#5856336)
When is it supposed to be? Certainly not the same weekend as the SABR convention?
   3. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: June 27, 2019 at 11:23 AM (#5856354)
Don't leave your wallet there.
   4. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 27, 2019 at 03:06 PM (#5856462)
El Segundo seems like a long way from Anaheim for a pizza.


Come for the BBTF, stay for the pizza ...

Coal fired.

NY style.

I'm not buying you a pizza to feed you a shitty pie.

I'm buying because I want to meet some of the people I've been chatting with for 20 years.

YMMV ...

When is it supposed to be? Certainly not the same weekend as the SABR convention?


Like the softball thread, whenever we can work it out. I'm giving y'all fifty bucks, like Josey Wales, I ain't promising you nothin' extra ...

Well, except good pizza and cheesecake.

And less lead ...
   5. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 27, 2019 at 08:44 PM (#5856565)
Are there really only 4 of us in SoCal?

(one of whom can't even be bothered to drive from Anaheim to El Segundo for free (very good) pizza ((which, to be fair, is like the most ####### LA thing ever)) ...
   6. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 27, 2019 at 09:03 PM (#5856568)
I always love a good pizza, but while I will gladly drive five hours into the Sierras without a second thought, El Segundo seems like a long way from Anaheim for a pizza.


So, first off, Laguna Beach, so, I'm driving further for a pizza than you.

And then paying for it.

Second, the first time I had a Grimaldi's pizza was in Reno, because they opened up that one several years before the El Segundo location, and Reno was where my parents lived at the time (also, Burning Man) so yeah, "five hours into the Sierra's"? I've done it more than you ... bet my soul on it.

Thirdly, 395, 101, 5, 99 in that order ...
   7. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 27, 2019 at 09:20 PM (#5856572)
((which, to be fair, is like the most ####### LA thing ever)) ...


Not the pizza, just the driving ...
   8. Omineca Greg Posted: June 27, 2019 at 10:05 PM (#5856581)
It's only a 90 minute walk from LAX! I could pop in for some pizza, wouldn't even need to spring for cab fare.

And from the looks of Google Maps, if I jaywalked across the 105, I could probably cut a few minutes off my time.

Is that a busy road?

Seriously, you only live once (maybe even less than that if you jaywalk across LA freeways).

For God's sake, go get the pizza!

Pack up all your dishes
Make note of all good wishes
Say goodbye to the landlord for me
That son of a ##### has always bored me**
Throw out them LA papers
And that moldy box of vanilla wafers
Adios to all this concrete
Gonna get me some dirt road back street

If I can just get off of this LA freeway
Without getting killed or caught
I'd be down that road in a cloud of smoke
To some land that I ain't bought bought bought

Here's to you old skinny Dennis
Only one I think I will miss
I can hear that old bass singing
Sweet and low like a gift you're bringing
Play it for me just one more time now
Got to give it all we can now
I believe everything your saying
Just keep on, keep on playing

If I can just get off of this LA freeway
Without getting killed or caught
I'd be down that road in a cloud of smoke
To some land that I ain't bought bought bought

And you put the pink card in the mailbox
Leave the key in the old front door lock
They will find it likely as not
I'm sure there's something we have forgot
Oh Susanna, don't you cry, babe
Love's a gift that's surely handmade
We've got something to believe in
Don't you think it's time we're leaving

If I can just get off of this LA freeway
Without getting killed or caught
I'd be down that road in a cloud of smoke
To some land that I ain't bought bought bought

Pack up all your dishes
Make note of all good wishes
Say goodbye to the landlord for me
That son of a ##### has always bored me

Clark


**When my future wife and I first moved in together, the apartment we lived in had these really annoying building supervisors. They were barely older than we were, and much to my disagreement, my wife became fast friends with them. But man, they bugged the hell out of me. So, when I first heard this song it reminded me of them. To this day, thirty some years later, I can sing any line from this song, and my wife knows that somebody is pissing me off.
   9. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:25 AM (#5856609)
But when the suppers are planned
And the freeways are crammed
And the mountains erupt
And the valley is sucked
Into cracks in the earth
Will I finally be heard by you.

L.A.
Uptight,
city in the smog,
city in the smog.
Don't you wish that
you could be here too?
Don't you wish that
you could be here too?
Don't you wish that
you could be here too?


Neil ... LA
   10. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:27 AM (#5856610)
Well, I'm a barrel of laughs,
with my carbine on
I keep 'em hoppin',
till my ammunition's gone.
But I'm still not happy,
I feel like
there's something wrong.
I got the revolution blues,
I see bloody fountains,
And ten million dune buggies
comin' down the mountain.
Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon
is full of famous stars,
But I hate them worse than lepers
and I'll kill them
in their cars.


Revolution Blues
   11. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 01:06 AM (#5856616)
It's only a 90 minute walk from LAX!


First, you're better off flying into SNA (aka John Wayne) because ... most of the time you can walk from LAX to El Segundo faster than you could drive on the 405. And you would be on my way!

Second, your view ... Now, technically, that's NEXT DOOR and the 3rd floor rather than the 2nd (your couch), but ...

Third, hand-made-in-house mozza, coal fired. You have to know how to order (double the cheese, double the meat, don't overdo the veggies, it ##### up the ratio between moist and crispy) but when it first comes out of the oven?

It's just this perfection of crunch and gooey ...
   12. phredbird Posted: June 28, 2019 at 01:57 AM (#5856620)

hey, this is the first i'm hearing of this.

is it because of an offhand remark i made in the culture thread?

whatever, i guess i'm in. but just an FYI, i am traveling from july 25 -aug 17

has a time and venue been decided?
   13. JAHV Posted: June 28, 2019 at 02:43 AM (#5856621)
So, first off, Laguna Beach, so, I'm driving further for a pizza than you.

And then paying for it.

Second, the first time I had a Grimaldi's pizza was in Reno, because they opened up that one several years before the El Segundo location, and Reno was where my parents lived at the time (also, Burning Man) so yeah, "five hours into the Sierra's"? I've done it more than you ... bet my soul on it.

Thirdly, 395, 101, 5, 99 in that order ...


If it was Chicago-style pizza, I might consider it. We should be doing this at Tony's Little Italy in Placentia.

Actually, while the pizza is great, the actual place isn't so much simply due to its size.
   14. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:04 AM (#5856622)
If it was Chicago-style pizza, I might consider it


I believe we have identified our disconnect on this issue (no offense meant or taken).

I don't think Chicago-style pizza is ... pizza.

It's a meat-and-cheese (and whatever else) pie.
   15. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:11 AM (#5856623)
has a time and venue been decided?


Not as yet.

As mentioned, I have a $50 gift card to Grimaldi's that I'm willing to throw in for pizza, beer, wine and cheesecake off the top, so there's my vote for location, but I'm open ... I just want it to happen. I'm also on their mailing list and my birthday is August 14th, so within a week of that, I'll also get a free medium pizza, to add that to the mix as well.

   16. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 03:18 AM (#5856624)
I just want it to happen


Like ... RDP was literally in Laguna Beach within the last week and I didn't know (well, he didn't share until after) and I'm pissed I didn't know.

RayRay and I agree about almost *nothing*, but I'm still sad I didn't get to meet him and show him around my town and buy him a beer (well, probably several) ... and save him the cost of a hotel room ... and probably his meal, since my roommate worked where he decided to eat in LB and it ain't cheap.
   17. Omineca Greg Posted: June 28, 2019 at 08:15 AM (#5856634)
Timeless song. Here in the Omineca, we sing it about Vancouver instead of California, and wildfire ash instead of dust.

Lots of folks back East, they say, is leavin' home every day,
Beatin' the hot old dusty way to the California line.
'Cross the desert sands they roll, gettin' out of that old dust bowl,
They think they're goin' to a sugar bowl, but here's what they find
Now, the police at the port of entry say,
"You're number fourteen thousand for today."

Oh, if you ain't got the do re mi, folks, you ain't got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi.

You want to buy you a home or a farm, that can't deal nobody harm,
Or take your vacation by the mountains or sea.
Don't swap your old cow for a car, you better stay right where you are,
Better take this little tip from me.
'Cause I look through the want ads every day
But the headlines on the papers always say:

If you ain't got the do re mi, boys, you ain't got the do re mi,
Why, you better go back to beautiful Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Georgia, Tennessee.
California is a garden of Eden, a paradise to live in or see;
But believe it or not, you won't find it so hot
If you ain't got the do re mi.

Guthrie
   18. PreservedFish Posted: June 28, 2019 at 09:42 AM (#5856642)
I didn't realize that Grimaldi's had expanded across the nation. That's the classic ancient pizzeria under the Brooklyn Bridge - I've heard that it's become a crappy tourist trap, but I don't know, because every time I've been near it and inclined to eat pizza in the last 25 years I've been dissuaded by the immense line outside the door.
   19. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:07 PM (#5856676)
Yeah, Grimaldi's is one of the places that was grandfathered in and is still allowed to operate a coal-fired pizza oven in NYC. I've only been to the original once -- I happened to be in Brooklyn for a job interview and it was ~3 pm on a Tuesday so there was no line outside. I'd already eaten lunch and they don't sell pizza by the slice so I had to order an entire pie for myself, but I did, and took about half of it home with me.

Interestingly, there are actually two competing Grimaldi's chains who each have legal rights to use the name (and both seem to lay claim to the Brooklyn Bridge location as one of their own). There's a Grimaldi's in Manhattan a few blocks from my office, for example, but it's not listed on the website with the one in El Segundo.
   20. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5856680)
   21. pthomas Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:12 AM (#5856933)
I know it says El Segundo on the label...but.....it is closer to downtown Hawthorne or Lawndale than to the Real El Segundo, which is two miles and a whole century away.

Randy Newman even gives you directions in the song:

Rollin' down the Imperial Highway
With a big nasty redhead at my side
Santa Ana winds blowing hot from the north
And we as born to ride
   22. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:53 AM (#5856939)
He rides a road, that don't have no end,
An open highway, that don't have no bends,
Tramp and his stallion, alone in a dream,
Proud in his colors, as the chromium gleams,

Iron Horse
   23. Omineca Greg Posted: June 29, 2019 at 08:59 AM (#5856964)
Well...the boss said he is very close to rescinding my pizza privileges, so if I want to stay in his good books, I better get cracking.

I know! This song is about WWII aerial warfare taking place over the OC! He'll love it! See what a good ingratiating little subordinate I can be? 30 years of keeping food on the table for my family has honed my skills to razor sharpness.

[listens to song]

[holds fingers to lips]

[looks up lyrics and reads them]

You know...I think I'll save Stukas Over Disneyland for a different context.

Let's do...

You're afraid to lose your cover
Afraid to bare your soul
Like an Alfred Hitchcock lover
Who slowly goes out of control

Your love is like the city
Only shines at night
Your love has no pity
Baby baby that's all right

Your vanity is your castle
You're like a neon sign
And the poor lost souls in your shadows
You forget, they are friends of mine

Your love is like the city
Only shines at night
Your love has no pity
Baby baby that's all right

Little Johnny Vain lost his head
While you broke a young girls heart
And Cecil D. Demille once gave to you
The 'Cast of Millions' part

Your love is like the city
Only shines at night
Your love has no pity
Baby baby that's all right

How many memories have you, honey
Swept beneath the bed?
And how many roses have you, honey
Watered till they bled?

Ely


Man, a slow burn 12 minute guitar freakout. Can I toady or what?

But that pizza looks so good!
   24. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: June 29, 2019 at 11:28 AM (#5856980)
I have a $50 gift card to Grimaldi's that I'm willing to throw in for pizza, beer, wine and cheesecake off the top, so there's my vote for location
if you going to pay for it, then your vote is the only one I care about. Dealer's choice, I say. Tuesdays and Thursdays are softball nights for me, but I should be good to go the rest of the time. Just make sure we have a local game to watch, and I am good to go.
   25. phredbird Posted: June 29, 2019 at 12:00 PM (#5856989)

happy to defer to the majority, but i am out of pocket from 7/25-8/17
   26. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:16 PM (#5856996)

You know...I think I'll save Stukas Over Disneyland for a different context.


Actually getting Stukas over Disneyland context?

You arrange that, I'll buy you pizza for life!
   27. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:40 PM (#5857001)
Of course, I'm pretty sure I'm not coming too far out of pocket, just remember what Harlan wrote ... at Disney, nobody ##### with The Mouse ...
   28. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 01:47 PM (#5857002)
happy to defer to the majority, but i am out of pocket from 7/25-8/17


How does 8/18 sound?

It's a Sunday, so traffic should just be bad, not insane and it's within my free "birthday medium pizza" window ...
   29. Omineca Greg Posted: June 29, 2019 at 04:02 PM (#5857033)
...just remember what Harlan wrote ... at Disney, nobody ##### with The Mouse ...

Ohhhhhhh!

Harlan Ellison. I thought it was going to be Harlan Howard.

I was thinking, "The guy that wrote 'Heartaches By The Number' and 'I Fall To Pieces' wrote a song about ####### up Mickey Mouse? Wow. What a polymath."

Anyway, Harlan Howard wrote this one, we'll do the Beautiful South version instead of Nanci Griffith, because the BS version is pretty obscure (an outtake from their covers album, used as a B-side), and I wouldn't want anybody to accuse me of holding out the deepest cuts.

You say you're heading out to California
You've heard the grapes are falling from the vine
I was hoping you might have the urge to write me
But I don't believe you will, so never mind

I was talking to a man down at Genesco
I thought they might be hiring anytime
I'm so tired of going any way the wind blows
And I thought that me and you, but never mind

Chorus:
Never mind, never mind
I'm just talking through the wine
And you know that drinking always makes me sad
But before this night is through
I better say I love you
Or I'm gonna always wish that I had

I first saw you picking oranges in Orlando
And all day you kept your ladder close to mine
We froze in Georgia, burned up in Chicago
And I always thought that we, but never mind

And did you know today your baby called me daddy
Sometimes I've wished that she was yours and mine
I could call my brother Milt in Cincinnati
And ask him for a loan, but never mind

Howard
   30. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 04:57 PM (#5857055)
There's a fog upon L.A.
And my friends have lost their way
We'll be over soon they said
Now they've lost themselves instead


Blue Jay Way
   31. phredbird Posted: June 29, 2019 at 06:29 PM (#5857098)

How does 8/18 sound?

It's a Sunday, so traffic should just be bad, not insane and it's within my free "birthday medium pizza" window ...


well, it's the day after i come back from a long trip so i might be jet lagged.

look, i don't want to be a wet blanket. decide amongst yourselves, and if i can make it, i will. just post details here.

sorry i can't be more accommodating, if it was last summer i could have come any day from june to september, this year has gotten a little crazy.

   32. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 29, 2019 at 06:30 PM (#5857100)
Well, we could do before or after, I'm totally flexible, I was just throwing the "free medium pizza" into the mix.
   33. Omineca Greg Posted: June 30, 2019 at 06:45 PM (#5857406)
Go into the community and ask the question, "Who is the world's greatest Pomonian?" and who will get almost as many answers as there are Pomonians.

Well, that's not really true. First off who'll get the inevitable counter-question, "WTF is a Pomonian?" and then you'll have to explain that you mean someone from Pomona, CA. And then you'll get the next inevitable question, "Isn't it supposed to be Pomonans?" and then you'll have to say that no one is really sure, and either seem to be acceptable. And even then, you're going to get a fairly short list of people, some Pomonians, although "great people" in the sense that they're fun to hang out with and stuff, don't really qualify as "great" by an objective measure. However, you will get a variety of answers: there's no one best answer, and depending on who you're talking to, you will hear a different person as the answer.

If you are on a baseball website, the answer will be Mark McGwire.

If you are asking an oversexed man who was an adolescent in the early 90s, the answer will be Jessica Alba.

I think the answer you will get here would most often be Jessica Alba...but that's only because of the steroids. No, Mark used the steroids, Jessica...look, you're making this way tougher than it should be. Anyway...

If you ask me, I'd say Tom Waits.

Jack was sitting poker faced with bullets backed with #######
Neal hunched at the wheel putting everyone in stitches
Bragging about some nurse he screwed while driving through Nebraska
And when she came she honked the horn
Neal just barely missed a truck
And then he asked her if she'd like to come like that to California
You see a red head in a uniform will always get you horny
Yeah and with her hairnet and those white shoes and a name tag and a hat
She drove like Andy Granatelli and knew how to fix a flat
And Jack was almost at the bottom of his MD 2020
Neal was yelling out the window trying to buy some bennies
From a Lincoln full of Mexicans and the left rear tire blowed
And the sons of ####### pretty near almost ran us off the road
And while the nurse had spilled the Maneshewitz all up and down her dress
And then she lit the map on fire Neal just had to guess
Should we try and find a bootleg route or a filling station open
The nurse was dumping out her purse and looking for an envelope
And Jack was out of cigarettes and as we crossed the yellow line
The gas pumps looked like tombstones from here
And it felt lonelier than a parking lot when the last car pulls away
And the moonlight dressed the double breasted foothills in the mirror
Weaving out a negligee and a black brassiere
And the Mercury was running hot and we were almost out of gas
Just then Florence Nightingale she dropped her drawers and
Stuck her fat ass half way out of the window to a Wilson Pickett tune
And shouted Get a load of this and gave the finger to the moon

Counting one eyed Jacks and whistling dixie in the car
Neal was doing least a hundred when we saw a falling star
And Florence wished that Neal would hold her instead of chewing on his cigar
Jack was nodding out and wishing he was in a bar
With Charlie Parker on the bandstand and not a worry in the world
And a glass of beer in one hand and his arms around a girl
Neal was singing to the nurse Underneath the Harlem Moon
And somehow you could just tell we'd be in California soon

Open up your golden gates
California here I come
I said California here I come
Look out California here I come

Waits/Meyer/Jolson/De Sylva
   34. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 30, 2019 at 09:55 PM (#5857533)
Well, that's not really true. First off who'll get the inevitable counter-question, "WTF is a Pomonian?" and then you'll have to explain that you mean someone from Pomona, CA.


Or, perhaps, you'll say that and they'll look at you puzzled and explain they're known as Sagehens.

Chirp.

My vote for "Pomonian" would be Paul Fussell.

Or Kris Kristofferson ... or Richard Chamberlain.


“Be thou of Zen. Remember, in tranquillity, that the Absolute, the Tao, is within thee, that no priest or cult or dogma or book or saying or teaching or teacher stands between Thou and It. Know that Good and Evil are irrelevant, I and Thou irrelevant, Inside and Outside irrelevant as are Life and Death. Enter into the Sphere where there is no fear of death nor hope of afterlife, where thou art free of the impediments of life or the needs of salvation. Thou art thyself the Tao. Be thou, now, a rock against which the waves of life rush in vain.”


Damn, but Shogun mostly holds up.

John Rhys-Davies is also wonderful in it (as always), though not a "Pomonian" (as you folks would put it), come forI Am the Monarch of the Sea, but avoid the bad dates ...
   35. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: June 30, 2019 at 10:21 PM (#5857561)
You could also go with the absolute crusher of a closer:

That year, at dawn, on the 21st day of the 10th month, the month without guns, the main armies clashed. It was in the mountains near Sekigahara, astride the North Road. By late afternoon, Toranaga had won the battle and the slaughter began. 40,000 heads were taken. 3 days later, Ishido was taken alive and Toranaga sent him in chains to Osaka for public viewing, ordering him planted in the earth with only his head showing. Passers by were invited to saw at the most famous neck in the realm with a bamboo saw. Ishido lingered 3 days and died very old.


Clavell also wrote "King Rat", which, since I grew up in KL, I might just have to go watch now ...

George Seagal, Denholm Elliot, James Fox and a rando appearance from Richard Dawson?

Sure, why not?
   36. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 01, 2019 at 04:36 AM (#5857626)

Sunshine beating on the good times
Moonlight raising from the grave
String band playing worn out honkey-tonks
Pretty young thing going dancing in the rain

High heel lady spitting at the nickajack
Business man with a needle and a spoon
Coyote chewing on a cigarette
Pack o' young boys going howlin' at the moon

Hey darlin'!
Sleeping on the blacktop
Hey darlin'!
Running through the trees honey
Hey darlin'!
Leaving for the next town
Less'n my sense catches up with me


Three dead in a crash on the number 4
Two witnesses below and up high
Not sure whose will be done
You can call me a sinner for wondering why

Hey darlin'!
Sleeping on the blacktop
Hey darlin'!
Running through the trees honey
Hey darlin'!
Leaving for the next town
Less'n my sense catches up with me

Corn liquor tastes sweeter in this town
Could it be it's the same as the last?
I swear I've seen ya face elsewhere before
Just as familiar as a bottle and a glass

Hey darlin'!
Sleeping on the blacktop
Hey darlin'!
Running through the trees honey
Hey darlin'!
Leaving for the next town
Less'n my sense catches up with me


Colter Wall
   37. phredbird Posted: July 02, 2019 at 01:13 PM (#5858220)

Clavell also wrote "King Rat", which, since I grew up in KL, I might just have to go watch now ...

George Seagal, Denholm Elliot, James Fox and a rando appearance from Richard Dawson?

Sure, why not?



segal is kind of underrated, i wish he had gotten a little more attention in his day.

he was brilliant in King Rat, more than holds his own against an all-star lineup of english actors.

FXM had a movie of his in heavy rotation earlier this year, The Quiller Memorandum, that actually has aged pretty well ... it's a kind of le Carre type of spy thriller with almost none of the hoky karate chop and gadget stuff.

   38. phredbird Posted: July 02, 2019 at 01:15 PM (#5858222)


he was also great in Blume in Love, but there is a very regrettable scene in that movie that would never be filmed today, and which casts a pall on the character he plays and makes the movie anachronistic in social/political terms. YMMV
   39. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 02, 2019 at 04:50 PM (#5858378)
This thread has taken an unexpected turn.
   40. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 05:42 PM (#5858403)
Come for the pizza, stay for the unexpected turn!

Although, once Omineca makes an appearance, is the unexpected turn really still unexpected, or merely unknown?
   41. phredbird Posted: July 02, 2019 at 06:10 PM (#5858413)

if omineca is really coming, i will make every effort to attend.
   42. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 02, 2019 at 06:22 PM (#5858416)
I am definitely going to be there, softball commitments notwithstanding. You guys get it. I will, however, two man long and winding stories with a very weird endings involving mysterious and unusual characters.
   43. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 06:26 PM (#5858419)
if omineca is really coming, i will make every effort to attend.


Well, to be totally honest, I was only talking about when he shows up in a thread, but he's here and on Discord, so I will see what I can do (free couch and transport from the airport are already offered).
   44. Omineca Greg Posted: July 02, 2019 at 07:21 PM (#5858429)
Thank you very much for the invitation. I do get to Southern California every once in awhile, having relatives in Palm Springs. I haven't been in about 5 years though, I think the last time was to see my wife's aunt who lived in Bel Air. Well, she actually lived in a van, but she parked it in Bel Air, she could have lived wherever she wanted to.

All my vacation time is already spoken for this year, but if I plan on a trip down there, like next year, I'll let you know well in advance, and I promise no matter how far I'm staying from El Segundo and the El Segundoese, I'll be there. I'll take my immigration cues from Woody's son.

What could go wrong?

Coming to eat pizza made by El Segundoese
Bringing in a couple of keys
But I have Inflammatory Bowel Disease
And Justin said it was fine...Mister Customs Man!

   45. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 07:45 PM (#5858434)
OG, I can only hope that the things (at least some of them) I am throwing at you are as amusing and/or interesting (including Achilles', but that was interesting because we both learned something) as the things you are throwing at me.

For those who don't know, here's the reference:

Comin' into Los Angeles
Bringin' in a couple of keys
Don't touch my bags if you please, mister customs man


Arlo Guthrie
   46. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 07:52 PM (#5858438)
If gun-to-the-head with desert island Arlo?

I'm going here.
   47. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 08:08 PM (#5858440)
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
And I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Dealin' card games with the old men in the club car
Penny a point ain't no one keepin' score
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor
And the sons of Pullman Porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpet made of steel
Mothers with their babes asleep
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rail is all they feel
   48. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 08:16 PM (#5858441)
OG, I can only hope that the things (at least some of them) I am throwing at you are as amusing and/or interesting


I don't know if you saw this in the other thread, but I really think you ought to read it:

The Secret Knowledge of Water

There Are Two Easy Ways to Die in the Desert: Thirst and Drowning
   49. PreservedFish Posted: July 02, 2019 at 08:32 PM (#5858445)
I haven't been in about 5 years though, I think the last time was to see my wife's aunt who lived in Bel Air. Well, she actually lived in a van, but she parked it in Bel Air, she could have lived wherever she wanted to.


Not sure I'm buying this! I recall that Bel Air is one of those places with draconian and impossible street parking laws.
   50. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 08:44 PM (#5858453)
Since OG can't come to us, we'll come to him!

Canada's like Andorra, everything's next door, right?
   51. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 09:03 PM (#5858463)
But, I need a ruling OG, is this the most "Canadian thing" I could post, ever?

(and TO BE ####### CLEAR I LOVE THIS SONG)


Bill Barilko disappeared that summer
He was on a fishing trip
The last goal he ever scored
Won the Leafs the cup
They didn't win another till nineteen sixty two
The year he was discovered
I stole this from a hockey card


Fifty Mission Cap
   52. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 02, 2019 at 09:32 PM (#5858473)
   53. Omineca Greg Posted: July 02, 2019 at 10:29 PM (#5858499)
Not sure I'm buying this! I recall that Bel Air is one of those places with draconian and impossible street parking laws.

Yeah, she cleaned houses for people, so they let her park there. Or sometimes sleep in the house. Or something, about 30 seconds into the "What a coup! I live in Bel Air" speech, I have to admit I stopped paying attention. Not that I'm a bed nephew or anything, OK, I'm a bad nephew. Or maybe I'm not a nephew, I don't know what I am to her. But whatever it is, there's a possibility I'm bad at it.

Wait a second! I take that back! Her van didn't have windshield wipers, so whenever she was driving and it started to rain, she pulled over and cried. I bought her windshield wipers...so maybe I'm not strong in the hippie values of "listening" and uh..."not rolling my eyes when I'm hearing a hippie story", I'm strong in the redneck value of "making sure you don't die because you spend all your money, such as it is, on non-windshield wiper accessories."

But, I need a ruling OG, is this the most "Canadian stanza" ever?


Could be. To be in the running it has to reference weather, or seasons. Or Canada. That has "summer" in it, so it's good to go.

So, this one about L.A. (Laurel Canyon, baby! Like to see Auntie park there!) qualifies...

But it don't snow here
It stays pretty green
I'm going to make a lot of money
Then I'm going to quit this crazy scene
Oh I wish I had a river I could skate away on

Mitchell


and this one...

I was lying on the bench slide
In the park across the street
L-A-T-E-R that week
My sticky paws were in to making straws
Out of big fat Slurpee treats
An incredible eight foot heap
Now the funny glare to pay a gleaming tare
In a staring under heat
Involved an under usual feat
And I'm not only among
But I invite who I want to come
So I missed a million miles of fun

Len


Canadians love slurpees. And we're one of the few countries that has a "million miles" in it. Very Canadian.

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too
'twas the "Witch of November" come stealin'

Lightfoot nailed it.


It's like rain on your wedding day

I was lyin' in a burned out basement
With the full moon in my eyes
I was hopin' for replacement
When the sun burst though the sky


Only want to get to work
But every morning I'm too sick to drive
Suffering whiteout conditions
Forget the mission, just get out alive
Only want to glean the purpose
Only to scratch the surface, raise the plow
Suffering whiteout conditions
Forget your mission, just get out somehow


It's the perfect time of year
Somewhere far away from here
I feel fine enough, I guess
Considering everything's a mess
There's a restaurant down the street
Where hungry people like to eat
I could walk, but I'll just drive
It's colder than it looks outside


No time for a summer friend
No time for the love you send
Seasons change and so did I
You need not wonder why


Oh, when I look back now
That summer seemed to last forever
And if I had the choice
Yeah, I'd always wanna be there
Those were the best days of my life

Wave after wave will flow with the tide
And bury the world as it does
Tide after tide will flow and recede
Leaving life to go on as it was

Sun's up... looks okay
The world survives into another day
And I'm thinking 'bout eternity
Some kinda ecstasy got a hold on me


It's kind of a pagan thing we've got going on. Once you've heard it enough, it's easy to recognise.


Well they lay down beside me, I made my confession to them
They touched both my eyes and I touched the dew on their hem
If your life is a leaf that the seasons tear off and condemn
They will bind you with love that is graceful and green as a stem

On a silent summer evening
The sky's alive with lights
A building in the distance
Surrealistic sight
On Echo Beach
Waves make the only sound
On Echo Beach
There's not a soul around
   54. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 03, 2019 at 01:46 AM (#5858525)

Could be. To be in the running it has to reference weather, or seasons. Or Canada. That has "summer" in it, so it's good to go.


And hockey, so Summer AND Winter!

And hockey nerdism, with the Barilko references. And then even card reference nerdism ...

And, I love the song so much that when I randomly found a player in my current FM save with a last name of Barilko, I made him a star.

I also changed his name to Taran, because for some reason I was thinking of the character from Lloyd Alexander's "The Chronicles of Prydain" books at the same time ... I haven't read the books in years, but Taran Barilko sounded like a name that should happen.

Then, of course, I went behind the scenes and moved him to Bolton (and tweaked things to keep him there, sorry my imaginary football serf) because sometimes, "not all those who wander are lost."

   55. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 04, 2019 at 02:16 PM (#5858912)
6.6 in the Mojave... everyone ok?

I've been through enough of these rodeos to know this one both was fairly far away and fairly big.

   56. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 04, 2019 at 04:45 PM (#5858940)
Honestly don't know it happened until people started asking what happened. I guess I'm just that thick.
   57. phredbird Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:02 PM (#5858944)

definitely felt it here in Palm Springs. my building wobbled for a good 10 seconds or so, which felt like an eternity while i tried to decide if i should run for the door.

i have these really big old IKEA bookcases full of very heavy books. i have to remember to clear away from there when this happens.

   58. phredbird Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:03 PM (#5858945)

it was in ridgecrest, about 50 mi. east of bakersfield ... is that really the mojave?
   59. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:11 PM (#5858948)
It seems so ...

RIDGECREST, Calif. (KABC) -- A preliminary-magnitude 6.4 earthquake struck Thursday morning in the Mojave Desert's Searles Valley, the U.S. Geological Survey said.


   60. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:14 PM (#5858949)
As I wrote over at Discord ...
My first EQ experience was my first year at Pomona
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/02/28/Strong-quake-rolls-through-Southern-California/3398636181200/
Actually, that's not exactly true. I felt the pre-quake at lunch that day.
I was in a mall (2nd floor) within 10 miles of where the epicenter was. I literally watched the floor move in waves. Also I literally felt the floor wave as I was running for the exit... feet on the floor, feet in the air ...Jebus ... ####!
Meanwhile, everyone around me was like ... eh, I 've had worse.
   61. phredbird Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:18 PM (#5858950)

well, i got a better look. it's right between sequoia national and the death valley preserve, about 100 mi. west of mojave national, so yes definitely mojave ...

the first nytimes article had ridgecrest about 20 mi. away from indian wells, which is in the coachella valley, heh. they've corrected it since.
   62. phredbird Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:23 PM (#5858951)

they had a boatload of aftershocks for along time after, too. one of them was a 4.7. sheesh.

if this had been in LA, it would have been disastrous. the magnitude was the same as the northridge in '94.
   63. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 04, 2019 at 05:44 PM (#5858957)
With the EQ I referenced above, people literally slept on the quad for weeks because of the aftershocks.

When I was sleeping, I hated them, JOLTED AWAKE, bad news, but when I was awake, I loved them, the dorm I was in was old enough and the hallway of my dorm was long enough that you could literally hear the waves coming, rattling the doors and windows, like a train coming down the tracks ...

   64. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 05, 2019 at 11:34 PM (#5859258)
prelim is that was a 7.1 ... everybody ok?
[edit] now being registered at 6.9
   65. phredbird Posted: July 06, 2019 at 04:01 PM (#5859423)

definitely felt that last night. the water in the pool was undulating.

so many aftershocks, too. that's something i haven't experienced much.
   66. Omineca Greg Posted: July 07, 2019 at 09:46 AM (#5859569)
Everybody OK?

Good.

Your earthquakes reminded me of this old L.A. apocalyptic classic. I love this song, and in a perverse way I'm almost embarrassed to say so, and that's coming from a guy who'll put on his best Doc Martens, stand on your coffee table, and tell you that "Steal My Sunshine" is a great song. The lyric writing here is very earnest, it makes it seem quaint. And the music is so tasteful it's limp. And as it's about a hippie getting a case of the sads, I should enjoy it in a schadenfreude kind of way...but god damn you, sensitive tear stained balladeer of yore, this is good stuff, so good I cannot joyfully revel in your despondency, but instead you bring me to share it. So without further ado, straight out of Fullerton CA, where he attended Sunny Hills High School and apparently learned that there are no hills so sunny that they will withstand the coming armageddon...Jackson Browne and "Before the Deluge"...

Some of them were dreamers
And some of them were fools
Who were making plans and thinking of the future
With the energy of the innocent
They were gathering the tools
They would need to make their journey back to nature
While the sand slipped through the opening
And their hands reached for the golden ring
With their hearts they turned to each other's heart for refuge
In the troubled years that came before the deluge

Some of them knew pleasure
And some of them knew pain
And for some of them it was only the moment that mattered
And on the brave and crazy wings of youth
They went flying around in the rain
And their feathers, once so fine, grew torn and tattered
And in the end they traded their tired wings
For the resignation that living brings
And exchanged love's bright and fragile glow
For the glitter and the rouge
And in the moment they were swept before the deluge

Now let the music keep our spirits high
And let the buildings keep our children dry
Let creation reveal its secrets by and by
By and by...
When the light that's lost within us reaches the sky

Some of them were angry
At the way the earth was abused
By the men who learned how to forge her beauty into power
And they struggled to protect her from them
Only to be confused
By the magnitude of her fury in the final hour
And when the sand was gone and the time arrived
In the naked dawn only a few survived
And in attempts to understand a thing so simple and so huge
Believed that they were meant to live after the deluge

Now let the music keep our spirits high
And let the buildings keep our children dry
Let creation reveal its secrets by and by
By and by...
When the light that's lost within us reaches the sky

Browne
   67. It was something about the man-spider and sodomy, Posted: July 07, 2019 at 12:04 PM (#5859585)
So without further ado, straight out of Fullerton CA, where he attended Sunny Hills High School and apparently learned that there are no hills so sunny that they will withstand the coming armageddon...


Well, as your countryman wrote in #10, you just have to keep them hopping, 'til the ammunition's gone ...

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