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Monday, November 23, 2009

BBWAA: AL MVP: Twins’ Joe Mauer Earns 27 of 28 1st-Place Votes

Joe Mauer, who won an unprecedented third batting championship for a catcher and helped propel the Minnesota Twins to the American League Central title, was elected the AL Most Valuable Player for 2009 in balloting by the BBWAA.

Mauer, the first catcher to lead his league in batting average (.365), on-base percentage (.444) and slugging (.587) in the same season, was listed first on all but one of the 28 ballots cast by two writers in each league city. He was second on that other ballot to score a total of 387 points, based on a tabulation system rewarding 14 points for first place, nine for second, eight for third on down to one for 10th.

The other first-place vote was cast for Detroit Tigers first baseman Miguel Cabrera (.324, 34 HR, 103 RBI), who finished fourth in the overall balloting with 171 points, behind a pair of New York Yankees teammates, first baseman Mark Teixeira (.292, 39 HR, 122 RBI, 103 R) and shortstop Derek Jeter (.334, 18 HR, 107 R, 30 SB).

Teixeira, who led the league in runs batted in and total bases (344) and tied Tampa Bay Rays first baseman Carlos Pena for the lead in home runs, totaled 225 points and Jeter 193. Teixeira’s best previous finish in MVP voting was seventh in 2005 for the Texas Rangers. Jeter also finished third in 1998 and was the runner-up in 2006. Mauer, Teixeira, Jeter and Cabrera were named on every ballot. In all, 27 players gained mention.

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   1. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:03 PM (#3394712)
At least we can complain about Teixeira finishing ahead of Jeter, so that's something.
   2. Cris E Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:03 PM (#3394713)
He was robbed. Was that another DET beat guy sucking up for next year? Fire him! Grr. Outrage... etc....

Congrats Joe.
   3. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:04 PM (#3394715)
My faith in my fellow man is renewed.
   4. The District Attorney Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:04 PM (#3394716)
Cue the "they make the right choice and you're b?tching about one dumb vote" complaints, but I really have to say it. A guy -- who, by the way, doesn't even have the best offensive stats in the league, plus he's slow and an indifferent fielder at the easiest position on the field -- shows up drunk off his ass for the most crucial series of the year... and he is supposed to be the Most Valuable Player???

Do I get three guesses as to what city the writer was from?
   5. Curse of the Graffanino (dfan) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:05 PM (#3394718)
It's gotta be the same guy who voted for Verlander.
   6. Nathan Kunkel Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:05 PM (#3394719)
done
   7. JJ1986 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:05 PM (#3394720)
Bartlett didn't get a single vote.
   8. Steve Treder Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:05 PM (#3394721)
Cue the "they make the right choice and you're ######## about one dumb vote" complaints, but I really have to say it. A guy -- who, by the way, doesn't even have the best offensive stats in the league, and is an indifferent fielder at the easiest position on the field -- shows up drunk off his ass for the most crucial series of the year... and he is the Most Valuable Player??

This.

And congrats to Mauer, 100% deserved.
   9. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:06 PM (#3394722)
The other first-place vote was cast for Detroit Tigers first baseman Miguel Cabrera (.324, 34 HR, 103 RBI)

Yeah, I've been making fun of the kvetching about votes that essentially mean nothing, but this is just ridiculous.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:06 PM (#3394723)
Do I get three guesses as to what city the writer was from?


Minnesota?
   11. Repoz Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:09 PM (#3394727)
Cano got 3 votes...and they were all for 7th place?

Odd.

Must have been a writers drinking round table thing and they all nodded off in agreement.
   12. Mark Armour Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:09 PM (#3394728)
Miguel Cabrera < Cesar Tovar
   13. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:12 PM (#3394731)
[4] FWIW, which is very little of course, I'd say there's a pretty good chance that whoever voted for Cabrera sent his ballot in before game 163.
   14. caspian88 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:13 PM (#3394733)
Ben Zobrist finished 8th. I was surprised.
   15. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:13 PM (#3394734)
[10] He said city, not country. ;-)
   16. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:15 PM (#3394735)
I could see A-Rod ahead of Tex-Mex, but yeah, whoever voted first for Cabriggy should have his gonads taken away.
   17. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:15 PM (#3394736)
I know it's only one 9th-place vote but...Polanco?
   18. WillYoung Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:16 PM (#3394737)
[4] FWIW, which is very little of course, I'd say there's a pretty good chance that whoever voted for Cabrera sent his ballot in before game 163.


Hopefully before game 160.
   19. Steve Treder Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:17 PM (#3394742)
Miguel Cabrera < Cesar Tovar

I knew Cesar Tovar. Cesar Tovar was a friend of mine. You, sir, are no Cesar Tovar.
   20. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:19 PM (#3394746)
Fun fact: Somebody voted A-Rod ahead of either Teixeira or Jeter or possibly both.

Probably one of the Minnesota writers.

I mean, if we're going to kvetch about the meaningless ####...
   21. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:20 PM (#3394749)
Who voted for Cabrera. WHO!?! WHO?!!?!?! TELL ME WHO!?!?!?!?

(grabs fungo bat)
TELL ME WHO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
   22. Mark Armour Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:21 PM (#3394751)
I loved Tovar, and even loved his MVP first-place vote in 1967. This kept Yaz from being unanimous and raised a stink for a while.

My second favorite MVP vote was 1947, when Dixie Walker got a first place vote and was mentioned on zero other ballots. Dixie had an "interesting" year that year, and I would love to know who cast the vote.
   23. Hector Moreda & The Generalissimo Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:21 PM (#3394752)
Now we know who Miguel was out drinking with, that night...
   24. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:22 PM (#3394754)
For all the Keith Law and Will Carroll bashing, the Tigers beat writers being total homers are way worse.
   25. Brian Oliver Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:23 PM (#3394755)
per Ken Davidoff on Twitter "Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, voted Miguel Cabrera first."
   26. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:24 PM (#3394757)
Now we know who Miguel was out drinking with, that night...


No kidding.
   27. Mark Armour Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3394759)
per Ken Davidoff on Twitter "Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, voted Miguel Cabrera first."


Wait, you mean that people jumped to an erroneous conclusion here?
   28. Weekly Journalist Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3394760)
Maybe he was some guy going by the "Well, so and so wasn't a unanimous MVP so neither should Mauer be."
   29. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3394761)
per Ken Davidoff on Twitter "Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, voted Miguel Cabrera first."

Well, the Japanese do have an appetite for whale flesh...
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3394762)
Do wins not matter anymore?

Good vote.
   31. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:25 PM (#3394763)
They're asking a Japanese language newspaper for votes? Are they're asking the Spanish language ones as well?
   32. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3394764)
Wait, you mean that people jumped to an erroneous conclusion here?

Let the record show that Shooty did not!
   33. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3394766)
(grabs fungo bat)

You wouldn't really hit Miggy Cabrera's mom with a fungo bat, would you?
   34. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:26 PM (#3394767)
"Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News, based in Seattle, voted Miguel Cabrera first."



Oh, If I weren't a politically correct person, I would so be using a WWII-related joke here.
   35. JJ1986 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:27 PM (#3394769)
Oh, If I weren't a politically correct person, I would so be using a WWII-related joke here.


He should have his kids taken away and placed in an internment camp?
   36. The District Attorney Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:30 PM (#3394774)
Wait, you mean that people jumped to an erroneous conclusion here?
I regret nothing.
   37. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:31 PM (#3394775)
Just how in the hell does Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News get to be a member of the Baseball Writers Association of America anyway, dammit!
   38. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:32 PM (#3394778)
Just how in the hell does Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News get to be a member of the Baseball Writers Association of America anyway, dammit!

If he follows and reports on American baseball, why not? I think it's cool, actually.
   39. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:32 PM (#3394779)
Are they're asking the Spanish language ones as well?


They used ESPN Deportes for one of the Miami votes last week.
   40. Repoz Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3394780)
They're asking a Japanese language newspaper for votes?

A dozen or so Japanese language newspaper writers have joined the BBWAA ranks in the last couple of years.

Since we now have fewer papers and some don't allow voting.
   41. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3394782)
Cabrera will be doing Sake endorsements in Japan now, by the way.
   42. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:33 PM (#3394781)
How would you justify Cabrera? Is there anything you can say that, while perhaps a stretch, nonetheless proceeds down some logical route?
   43. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:35 PM (#3394788)
Ben Zobrist finished 8th. I was surprised.


That he was so high, or so low?

I'd like to know which two guys thought that Youkilis was the second-most-valuable player in the AL.

-- MWE
   44. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:35 PM (#3394789)
Cabrera will be doing Sake endorsements in Japan now, by the way.

Not Suntory Time?
   45. Hector Moreda & The Generalissimo Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:35 PM (#3394790)
Just how in the hell does Keizo Konishi of Kyodo News get to be a member of the Baseball Writers Association of America anyway, dammit!


An obscure clause in the Instrument of Surrender.
   46. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:36 PM (#3394791)
?????, Kenzo. You have disrespected your ancestors, you are ?.
   47. caspian88 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:38 PM (#3394793)
On Zobrist, I was surprised that he finished so high. I was expecting a token vote or two, not a top 10 finish (albeit in a tight group with three other people).
   48. mr. man Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:39 PM (#3394794)
I'm a little curious about who was able to justify voting Jeter 10th.
   49. HGM Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:39 PM (#3394795)
On Zobrist, I was surprised that he finished so high. I was expecting a token vote or two, not a top 10 finish (albeit in a tight group with three other people).

Same here, although he was my pick for #3 (behind Mauer and Greinke).
   50. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:41 PM (#3394797)
Hara-Kiri is in Order, Kenzo!
   51. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:41 PM (#3394798)
I'm a little curious about who was able to justify voting Jeter 10th.

It is weird how relatively poorly Jeter has done in MVP voting. The guys that hype him seem loathe to vote for him. It's an interesting disconnect. That Jeter does better in the IBA's than the BBWAA votes makes me happy in a particular, ineffable way.
   52. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:43 PM (#3394799)
Interesting that the Cy Young winner is not as valuable as a pitcher that received no Cy Young votes.
   53. A triple short of the cycle Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:44 PM (#3394800)
Players receiving at least one vote, by team:

6 - New York Yankees
3 - Anaheim Angels
3 - Boston Red Sox
3 - Detroit Tigers
3 - Minnesota Twins
2 - Tampa Bay Rays
2 - Texas Rangers
2 - Toronto Blue Jays
2 - Seattle Mariners
1 - Kansas City Royals
   54. The District Attorney Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:46 PM (#3394802)
Interesting that the Cy Young winner is not as valuable as a pitcher that received no Cy Young votes.
This is a consistent thing, that some writers think relievers are "more like everyday players" and thus more deserving of MVP votes. You can see this tendency in the bottom half of many recent MVP tallies.
   55. villainx Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:46 PM (#3394803)
How often are there no pitchers in the top 10?
   56. Craig Calcaterra Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:47 PM (#3394805)
For relaxing times, make it Cabrera time.
   57. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:52 PM (#3394810)
I see where Joe Mauer also won the Negro League Museum award as the AL's best player. I did not know they had such award. Did Cabrera get any first place votes from the NLM?
   58. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:53 PM (#3394811)
On the bright side, there is no way the Yankees would want anything less than a unanimous MVPer, so we can expect Mauer to be in Minneapolis for years to come.
   59. Davo Malvolio Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:53 PM (#3394813)
My favorite part of the MVP votes... the Bizarro Ballot (ie, the worst hypothetical ballot that could have been submitted):

1. Miguel Cabrera
2. Kevin Youkilis
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jason Bay
5. Aron Hill
6. Mariano Rivera
7. Michael Young
8. Michael Cuddyer
9. Placido Polanco
10. Ian Kinsler

Ship it!
   60. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:54 PM (#3394814)
Did Cabrera get any first place votes from the NLM?

He received 5 of a possible 63 first place votes from the NLM.
   61. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:54 PM (#3394815)


Itching for Ichiro
Sports Illustrated The next time you think your job sucks, consider the 47 Japanese journalists who gather each day at the foot of a mute god -- the Seattle Mariners' Ichiro Suzuki.

He's the fastest man in baseball with the best outfield arm playing for the winningest team, and he doesn't speak to them. He leads the major leagues in batting, is on pace to break a dozen records and has set Japan ablaze, and he doesn't speak to them.

"What we are doing is not journalism," says Hideki Okuda of Sports Nippon. "I feel very sad about this."

"There are so many of them," says Ichiro, who's embarrassed by the horde wanting to talk only to him, "and only one of me."

Occasionally Ichiro speaks to one Japanese writer -- the pool reporter, Keizo Konishi of the Kyodo News -- but only if that writer adheres to strict protocol. The gaggle of Japanese reporters submits their questions to Konishi and then gather together in the corner of the clubhouse and watch breathlessly as, 30 feet away, Konishi timidly loiters near Ichiro, who faces into his locker.

When at last Ichiro signals, Konishi tiptoes up, squats respectfully and whispers the questions into the great man's ear. But Ichiro, being a very humble man, answers in only the tiniest of morsels designed to paint himself in the palest light possible. Quotes like "This does not matter" and "Only the team counts" and "It is not my position to answer such a thing."

After three or four minutes Konishi rises, bows slightly and trudges back to the huddled mass, bearing no fruit. "Ichiro says, 'This is not the time to think of that,'" he reports, and 46 faces fall like soufflés at a bass drum recital.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2001/09/12/life_of_reilly/

Edit: Credit should go to Diamond Lueng of Diamond Notes
   62. Best Regards, Larry M. Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:57 PM (#3394817)
Good timing on that article, Tripon.
   63. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 23, 2009 at 08:59 PM (#3394820)
I'm a little curious about who was able to justify voting Jeter 10th.

The same could be said for the 2 that had Jeter 8 or 9, and even the 3 6th place votes seem clearly lower than warranted. However, it's not an exact science, and it's probably better than the old days when it was practically a BBWAA tradition to vote for the home team guy if he was arguably in contention for the top spot.
   64. Craig in MN Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:00 PM (#3394821)
How would you justify Cabrera? Is there anything you can say that, while perhaps a stretch, nonetheless proceeds down some logical route?

I would imagine the argument was that he was the most impactful hitter on a contending team that got the least offensive help from his teammates. Cabrera really seemed to carry his team offensively moreso than any of the other likely MVPs. Offensively, he was basically identical to Texiera...so maybe the voter thinks Texiera benefitted from having help in NY (and Mauer in MIN) whereas Cabrera was hurt by not having help in Detroit. Then subtract some value from Mauer for being injured for a month and DHing often. It's a stretch, but there is some logic there. If Detroit had won another game or two, and Cabrera didn't have the bad publicity the last weekend of the season, I bet he would have gotten multiple first place votes based on similar logic.
   65. Dag Nabbit apealing [sic] his own check swing Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:02 PM (#3394823)
My favorite part of the MVP votes... the Bizarro Ballot (ie, the worst hypothetical ballot that could have been submitted):

1. Miguel Cabrera
2. Kevin Youkilis
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. Jason Bay
5. Aron Hill
6. Mariano Rivera
7. Michael Young
8. Michael Cuddyer
9. Placido Polanco
10. Ian Kinsler

Ship it!

Given that Mauer was on every ballot, shouldn't he be on the bizarro ballot?
   66. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:03 PM (#3394825)
aarongleeman

That first-place vote for Miguel Cabrera earned him a $200,000 bonus. #ctb


Hah.
   67. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:04 PM (#3394826)
That first-place vote for Miguel Cabrera earned him a $200,000 bonus.



How many shots can he buy with that?
   68. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:04 PM (#3394827)
Given that Mauer was on every ballot, shouldn't he be on the bizarro ballot?

Naw. You just take the worst choice for each slot. A real bizarro ballot, of course, would feature nothing but Oakland A's!
   69. retro-shiite Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:04 PM (#3394828)
*Cabrera* with the only non-Mauer first-place vote? Really? So much for that east-coast pro-Yankee bias some were fearing.

This year's award voting has given me hope for the process. I wonder if any of Greinke, Mauer or Lincecum would've gotten their awards if they'd had their '09 seasons in 1990.
   70. AROM Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:07 PM (#3394830)
Terrible vote. RBI tell you how many RUNS a player is worth to his team. And Teixiera had MORE than Joe Mauer. You nerds cooking up newfangled stats like OPS and concepts like the value of position played ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Why credit Mauer for being a catcher and not Teixiera? It's just a choice made by their managers that they have no control over. Tex can't save runs catching if Girardi never gives him a chance, so why penalize him? All he can do is the best he can at first base, where he scooped enough bad throws to win Derek Jeter a gold glove. Back in the old days, you didn't have Yogi winning over Mickey just because he was a catcher, did you?
   71. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:07 PM (#3394831)
Konishi probably mixed up his ballots and intended to vote for Alex Cabrera for the Japanese MVP and Ichiro for the AL MVP
   72. Barnaby Jones Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:08 PM (#3394833)
That first-place vote for Miguel Cabrera earned him a $200,000 bonus. #ctb


That's not true, at least not according to Cot's. He would have gotten $200k if he PLACED 1st.
   73. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:09 PM (#3394835)

How many shots can he buy with that?


KAMPEI!
   74. LeonardP694 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:10 PM (#3394837)
Great job for Joe
   75. puck Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:11 PM (#3394840)
I wonder if any of Greinke, Mauer or Lincecum would've gotten their awards if they'd had their '09 seasons in 1990


Greinke would have lost, since Clemens had 5 more wins, one fewer inning, and a lower ERA, (and slightly higher ERA+) and lost.
   76. TerpNats Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:12 PM (#3394842)
I wonder whether some American who covers Japanese baseball has made a similarly inane first-place vote for Central or Pacific league MVP.
   77. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:13 PM (#3394846)
I hate bloggers like Keizo Konishi, Keith Law, Will Carroll, and Albert Belle ruining our awards voting

signed,
people who gave Palmeiro a gold glove in 1999
   78. Gamingboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:14 PM (#3394847)
Excerpt from upcoming Mauer press conference:

Q: Joe, what do you think about somebody voting Miguel Cabrera ahead of you?
A: "You have heard that it was said, "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles."
   79. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:14 PM (#3394849)
Is anyone else uncomfortable with some of the Konishi jibes?
   80. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:16 PM (#3394852)
i'm sure that the degenerates are veering over the line occasionally here
   81. Mark Armour Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:16 PM (#3394854)
I wonder if any of Greinke, Mauer or Lincecum would've gotten their awards if they'd had their '09 seasons in 1990.


As good as Mauer was, I would take Rickey's 1990.
   82. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:17 PM (#3394856)
Is anyone else uncomfortable with some of the Konishi jibes?

All except for mine, which are completely innocent. But, really, only the internment camp joke was bad, but that was really a joke about bad jokes (and a pretty good one, too).
   83. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:18 PM (#3394858)
As good as Mauer was, I would take Rickey's 1990.

Man, I'd have to think about this one, as much as I love Rickey.
   84. WillYoung Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:31 PM (#3394865)
Excerpt from upcoming Mauer press conference:

Q: Joe, what do you think about somebody voting Miguel Cabrera ahead of you?
A: "You have heard that it was said, "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles."


That's only about 50 more words than Joe has ever spoken consecutively to the media.
   85. Good cripple hitter Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:33 PM (#3394868)
Is anyone else uncomfortable with some of the Konishi jibes?

The gamingboy ones, yeah. But then, I don't think it's a big deal that one writer thought Miggy was more valuable than Mauer.
   86. Brandon in MO (Yunitility Infielder) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:34 PM (#3394869)
giving an MVP award to someone who didn't lead the league in any offensive category seems like a bad idea
   87. SoSH U at work Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:40 PM (#3394873)
signed,
people who gave Palmeiro a gold glove in 1999


Why would the manager's care?

Good for Joe, though this was as expected.
   88. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:41 PM (#3394874)

giving an MVP award to someone who didn't lead the league in any offensive category seems like a bad idea


Didn't Mauer win another batting title this year?
   89. JMPH Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:43 PM (#3394878)
Bartlett didn't get a single vote.

It's funny what actual production will do to your reputation as one of the league's most valuable players.
   90. Shooty: Applying to be Fearless Leader Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:46 PM (#3394879)
It's funny what actual production will do to your reputation as one of the league's most valuable players.

He's too good to be scrappy and inspirational.
   91. CW hits the pinata for the candy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:56 PM (#3394892)
giving an MVP award to someone who didn't lead the league in any offensive category seems like a bad idea


Not that I care, but Mauer lead the league in batting average.
   92. JMPH Posted: November 23, 2009 at 09:57 PM (#3394893)
Not that I care, but Mauer lead the league in batting average.

I figured he was referring to Cabrera.
   93. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:05 PM (#3394905)
From what little I know about Japanese baseball, I would've expected a Japanese writer to overrate a middle-infield smallball type.
   94. attaboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM (#3394908)
the question about 1990 wasn't if they would win against those who played in 1990 but rather would they have won against the others from today if the setting was awards given out in 1990. Mauer would win but I think Hernandez would have won the CY. Not sure about Lincecum.
   95. sunnyday2 Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:10 PM (#3394911)
I see how you did it, but here's an even better Bizarro ballot.

1. Cabrera
2. Cabrera
3. Cabrera
4. Cabrera
5. Cabrera
6. Abreu--ah, finally, a guy worse than Cabrera gets a vote
7. Lind
8. Cuddyer
9. Polanco
10. Cuddyer
   96. Tripon Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:13 PM (#3394913)


I figured he was referring to Cabrera.


He said award, not vote.
   97. attaboy Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:15 PM (#3394920)
Zobrist won the MVP per dollar cost!
   98. RJ in TO Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:15 PM (#3394921)
7. Lind


What's so bad about Lind? 4th in SLG, 7th in OPS (6th in OPS+), 5th in Total Bases, Doubles, and HRs (and 2nd in XBH), 3rd in RBI, and 4th in adjusted Batting wins. The guy had a damn good season, and there's nothing at all horrific about him getting a 7th place vote, whether voting by BBWAA or Sabr standards.
   99. JMPH Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:15 PM (#3394922)
He said award, not vote.

I realize that, but the guy who gave him that vote wanted to give him the award, yes? Consequently, it was a bad idea.

I have a hard time believing that anyone posting on this site missed the fact that Mauer led the league in batting average, let alone OBP, slugging percentage, and OPS.
   100. Hugh Jorgan Posted: November 23, 2009 at 10:32 PM (#3394946)
Guilty of not reading all the above posts...but,
Congrats to Mr. Mauer on an extraordinary season.
Congrats to the sportswriters who once again got it right this year(except for that Cabrera first guy).
The only obvious issue is that we really have nothing to whinge about...again, damn those effing sportswriters.
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