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Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Berg: The save stat, nutshelled

Yankees: Let’s all pull together to really suck!

“I couldn’t believe they were cheering me for hitting into a double play,” Swisher said. “I said: ‘Whoa, what’s this? And then I looked at the bullpen and saw Mo coming out and I said: ‘Now I get it!’ This was the greatest double play of my life.”

“Runners at first and second…it was unbelievable,” Rivera said. “I don’t ever want my teammates to do bad so I can pitch, but this time I was happy for the opportunity. I’m listening to the fans and I said: ‘Wow, these guys are into it!’”

Madden stink.

Repoz Posted: September 20, 2011 at 02:11 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Martin Hemner Posted: September 20, 2011 at 04:07 PM (#3930863)
In the last home game of the 1982 season, Fred Stanley allowed himself so be picked off second so Rickey Henderson could try to break the single season steals record at home. The stolen base stat, nutshelled.
   2. SoSH U at work Posted: September 20, 2011 at 04:22 PM (#3930879)
Countdown to Ryan Jones dropping by to link to an entirely different kind of nutshelling. 10,9,8...
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: September 20, 2011 at 04:28 PM (#3930882)
The save stat, nutshelled, is also Scott Williamson not pitching in his team's last game of '03 despite a very good post-season (14 K's, 3 hits, and 1 run in 8 innings).
   4. Bob Evans Posted: September 20, 2011 at 05:12 PM (#3930919)
Enter sandbag.
   5. flournoy Posted: September 20, 2011 at 05:18 PM (#3930927)
In the last home game of the 1982 season, Fred Stanley allowed himself so be picked off second so Rickey Henderson could try to break the single season steals record at home. The stolen base stat, nutshelled.


I think you misremembered this. In the Athletics' last home game, Fred Stanley reached base once, and was advanced to second by a Henderson single. They both scored on Mike Davis' double, though. There were no pickoffs or caught stealings in the game.

The pitcher who gave up the aforementioned hits was Bob Tufts. Maybe he remembers...
   6. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: September 20, 2011 at 05:27 PM (#3930937)
The game Martin is remembering was in August. Rickey was sitting on 118 and this was the lsat home game before a road trip (where he eventually broke the record). Stanley got picked off but then Rickey was thrown out trying to steal the base. My recollection is that Rickey actually set the MLB record for CS on that play but I am not sure.
   7. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 20, 2011 at 05:41 PM (#3930954)
Rickey actually set the MLB record for CS on that play


I wonder what the record really is? There were almost certainly guys who got nailed more than 42 times back in the early years when they didn't record CS. I was just looking at George Burns's stats, and he had seasons of 40-35, 37-26, 30-23, 22-22, 27-20 and 19-20. He had other seasons of 62, 40, 40, and 40 SB where CS weren't recorded.
   8. John Northey Posted: September 20, 2011 at 06:23 PM (#3931004)
I remember the Yanks setting up Dave Righetti for the single season save record. He had to get 1 out with a 2 run lead and no one on base. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS198610042.shtml

Forgot he needed 2 saves to set the record and it was a double header. He actually had saves in each of the last 3 games of the season (4 of the last 5) to make it happen. One of the few things the Yanks had go right that season (1986).
   9. Bob Tufts Posted: September 23, 2011 at 01:58 AM (#3933718)
flournoy - (no)thanks for the reminder. You are correct - there was no oddity that day.

the only oddity at the end of the year was stalling in the last KC home game vs. Oakland to see if Willie Wilson had t9 bat to win the batting title.
   10. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2011 at 02:15 AM (#3933741)
In the last home game of the 1982 season, Fred Stanley allowed himself so be picked off second so Rickey Henderson could try to break the single season steals record at home. The stolen base stat, nutshelled.


Meanwhile in the A's last game, with the A's winning 6-3 over the Royals with 2 down in the bottom of the 9th, Billy Martin came out to talk to the pitcher, and with the help of the umpires, stalled long enough so that Robin Yount's last PA half a country away would be completed. See, league batting leader Willie Wilson of the Royals sat out, but Yount, having the game of his life in the most important game of his career, had crept to within 1 point of Wilson. A Yount hit would put him past Wilson, so Martin helped out by stalling long enough so that Wilson could bat as a PH if necessary. Yount made an out, and Wilson won the batting title from the bench.

edit: Doh!! I started typing, had to go put the kids to bed, and when I return to finish and post, Bob Tufts steals my thunder.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: September 23, 2011 at 02:52 AM (#3933767)
The Mets once sat a young Lee Mazzilli on the final day because he had battled his way up to the fabled .250 batting average and they didn't want to take a chance of him falling below that epic figure. True story, and not exactly up there with Ted Williams 1941, lol.

Not easy to be a Mets fan.
   12. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: September 23, 2011 at 11:52 AM (#3933870)
The Mets once sat a young Lee Mazzilli on the final day because he had battled his way up to the fabled .250 batting average and they didn't want to take a chance of him falling below that epic figure. True story, and not exactly up there with Ted Williams 1941, lol.


Actually, you're partly right. Mazzili led off the game with a double, bringing his average up to .250 (actually, .24953). He was then replaced on defense at the bottom of the first.

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