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1. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: April 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3803734)Pretty sure Bolt makes about $5 million per year, so he would top the soccer player on that list. Maybe it depends on how they count income, though. The majority of Bolt's earnings are probably endorsements (Puma), which may not be counted. I'm not sure how, or if, they would count appearance fees. Bolt's actual winnings might be relatively small.
Lol, he was the one person I was almost certain would be the highest for his country.
There are some pretty massive financial shenanigans that go on in the IPL, though, so your guess is as good as mine re: the actual numbers.
It also makes me wonder why the England and Wales Cricket board hasn't looked at that, realized how easily they could outspend the IPL, and built a better league. Australia's moving in that direction with a revamp of their T20 league.
Nobody cares about domestic cricket in England.
Russia Andrei Kirilenko basketball NBA, Utah Jazz $17,822,187
World's worst contract?
It'll be good to avoid some of the dross, but could we hold off on quality-post ratio (QPR)? I'm actually a season ticket holder at Queens Park Rangers (Loftus Road, London W12) who also subscibes to their mailing list and I doubt I'd be able to keep it all straight.
Luton Town home this Saturday - Up the R's!!
(oops, it's Baseball Primer...)
Thnaks for the hard work. The site is a treat
Ah, well, that will probably do in Bolt. Add to that the fact that he missed some time with an injury last year (which would hold down his winnings), the lack of a major championship last year and the fact that he didn't break any world records (so no bonus), and last year would make Bolt look fairly poorly paid, relative to his fame.
Average salary per player is kind of a silly metric to use accross sports though. 65 man rosters are always going to drive the average down versus sports with fewer roster spots.
That's a product of the salary cap. Guys like AK47 and Joe Johnson get max deals because teams have the money, there are only a limited number of true superstars to go around, and if they don't then somebody else will pay them. Lebron doesn't make any more because the rule says he can't.
(http://www.chess.com/article/view/making-money-in-chess).
I didn't even know you lived in England. Congrats on the near-certainty QPR promotion.
You're sh*tting me right? Not A motorcycle "racer", but THE motorcycle rider...Valentino Rossi...best ever; and he took a pay cut after the GFC. Dude was making close to $40mil US per before and makes more than that in endorsements. When he switched from Honda to Yamaha a few years back, their sales doubled within a year..guy is worth every dollar he earns at 320kph.
Never heard of him.
Salary cap aside, I was commenting on the notion that Kirilenko's deal is awful (though it certainly is no bargain). At the time he signed it, you could make an argument that he was one of the 10-20 best players in the league (for example, his WS/48 was consistently ranked in the 10-15 range, some of his other uber-stats looked better still) + he was only 23 and could conceivably improve wrt his weakspot: scoring. Instead, he steadily declined / had some injuries / Utah didn't maximize his value (partly because Boozer developed and Millsap showed up). Still, he's a very nice piece to have: above average defender at two spots, efficient though reluctant scorer, plus passer - and has been the best or second best player on the team by some comprehensive metrics (Roland/simple ratings on 82games, for one) almost every year for that team, even in his decline.
That's a better deal than, say, the similarly paid this year Gil Arenas, a demonstrably inferior (though more famous) player.
The rally driver in question is a former Formula One World Champion driver for Ferrari. He's scheduled to start driving in NASCAR later this year. That kind of driver doesn't come cheap...
I'd never once heard of him before today.
Well that is Kimi Räikkönen, the former F1 champ who drove for Ferrari; so he does bring a bit of a name with him when he moved to Rally last year. Although, he is now trying his hand at NASCAR, starting with the Trucks series this year, so may see a change.
I knew there were alot of Slavic NBA players, but didn't realize how many came from Slovenia(assumed most of them were either Croats or Serbs)
I've seen this sort of ranking before and the explanation was that the IPL season only lasts for two months, and the salary thing is pro-rated as monthly salary. So MS Dhoni's $1.8 million is $900,000 per month, and the rest of the time I guess he gets paid on a per-appearance basis for the national test cricket team and Twenty20 team. A lot of people are on an IPL team in April and May and then an English county team for June through September. And then maybe an Australian team in the winter.
Whereas all those soccer players, the salary is over 12 months.
I was looking at the list and saying to myself that you make shvt and apparently I get paid better than a ton of athletes but then I realized that I was looking at Per Capita GDP which depressed me. Looks like I beat out 7 athletes.
Niue does have another resident named Michael Jackson, and according to ABC news the death of the famous Michael Jackson shocked the entire island (1,000 pop.), who had assumed that it was their neighbor that had died. Is it his father?
I would have guessed that a multi-millionaire named Valentino Rossi was heir to the Martini & Rossi vermouth fortune.
Nah, I live in Columbus. It was an obscure reference to the early Primer days when someone octuple (or more) posted that.
Is that more or less embarrassing than badminton?
Making $10,000,000 a year doing it is hardly embarrassing.
It's because Tevez plays for Manchester City, which::
1) Is owned by a member of the UAE ruling family
2) Has to overpay top players because
a) It's not a historically "big" club
b) It doesn't compete in the Champions League
c) Manchester is not exactly a a prime place to live, especially when you're competing against top clubs in Spain for Spanish speaking players
d) Tevez was signed from their rivals Manchester United
So it'd be like what the Clippers would have to pay to get Kobe to sign with them, only if the Clippers were suddenly owned by Bill Gates, there was no salary cap, and instead of being in LA there were based in, I dunno, Cleveland.
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Walt are you dissing yachting? Don't you live in NZ? It's the home of yachting, your guys are best in the world at it...heck didn't a kiwi guy skipper the last Swiss boat that won the america's cup thing?
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Also Messi has been with Barca since he was 12, so they get a discount. Apparently he's got asthma or something and Barca kindly offered to help the family with the medical bills in exchange for his services.
"Moneyball II" - Billy Beane hires a team doctor and heads to the DR with a bag full of inhalers.
That's an easy one for Barca to keep up, as long as he is the best player in the world. Might get interresting 5 years from now though...
He had a growth hormone problem as a kid. The local Argentine clubs did not want to / could not afford to pay for treatment. Barca agreed to pay for it.
Motorcycle racing is actually a pretty popular sport globally. And Rossi is the best ever. He's won everything there is to be won, to the point that he's dabbling in other motor sports, there are regular rumours / reports that he wants to move to either F1 or motory rallying.
Easily? No, not easily. Quite a few of the English counties are on the verge of bankruptcy. And the English did try, foolishly, to compete with India, only to end up looking like, at best, financially naive idiots: Allen Standford. At worst, they profitted from Standford's fraud knowingly.
Australia isn't moving in the direction of competing against the Indians. They, the Saffers, are pretty heavily invested into the IPL. The reality is that India has the combination of a very large population and cricket being a mass appeal sport there.
I mean, the salary cap for an entire team in the IPL is not that much more than Roque Santa Cruz makes in a year. A T20 league in England with a higher salary cap might not be as popular as the IPL, but I don't think it would need to be in order to be profitable and draw star-quality players from overseas. Even if they got 20% of the rights fees and sponsorships that the IPL gets, they'd be raking in cash left and right before even selling a ticket.
And, c'mon, saying big money pro cricket wouldn't work in the UK because Allen Stanford is a crook is like saying MLB can't make it financially while pointing to the McCourts and Wilpons as evidence.
When did Brunei pick up a last name.
Walt, did you ever play badminton the right way? If I tried to play a good player now, I'd have a heart attack in 5 minutes.
It married Steve Darussalam last Fall. It was the social event of the season - I can't believe you didn't read about it in the society page.
The most overseas interest is in India. The most interest is in India.
Why do you think that if the ECB, can't do it, someone wlse can? Why would the 7-8 billionaire owners want to invest in such an iffy prospect, unless those 7-8 billionaires are crciket nuts? Not just cricket nuts, but English cricket nuts, who lose money locally? Why not just invest in the IPL?
That is because of how cricket works. A comparison between what a cricket players earns from one employer and between what other athletes earns is NOT valid. Top cricket players get salaries from multiple organisations: the IPL season is slightly less than 2 months long. An IPL player does NOT get exclusively paid by his IPL club. He gets to play for, and be paid by, others.
Club cricket has to work alongside international cricket, and there is also the issue of the various forms of cricket: test / first class, 50 / 40 overs, 20 overs. Given how long a test tour lasts, with top players being away for months, club cricket is not in anyway like club soccer.
A t20 league in England would NOT have a higher salary cap than the IPL. Where the heck do you think the money is going to come from? Outside of international matches, attendance is poor, there is little interest in watching on TV. And it would need to be as popular to draw star quality players. Players playing in India, not just Indian players, get to sign big endorsement contracts, selling everythinig from hand phones, to toothpaste, to beer. Anything you can think of.
No it isn't. MLB has other owners. The ECB turned to Allen Stanford, no one else. What, you think they turned down better offers from your hypothetical 7-9 billionaires, and chose to go with Stanford instead?
And of course I'm making fun of yachting. Am I not supposed to make fun of yachting. Are yachters a protected class now? I don't care how much the guy makes, it's yachting. Might as well be best in the world at, I dunno, badminton or motorcycle racing or something.
And in case you hadn't noticed, they're not even using real boats anymore.
Heh. Don't play a Chinese guy. Or, an Indonesian or Malaysian guy.
Addis Ababa called and wants its country back.
Maybe it would work, maybe it wouldn't. I don't have a crystal ball. I genuinely think this sort of thing is inevitable and likely to succeed. You don't, and that's fine with me. I don't expect either of us is going to convince the other that they're wrong.
The capital of Tanzania is Dodoma.
I hate when countries like Tanzania and Albertbellia move their capitals without telling me.
I read an article somewhat recently(I think linked from the soccer thread) that said that Barcelona tends to structure their player contracts with lower guaranteed money and large bonuses based on winning trophies. Not sure if that was included in the calculations or if it applies to Messi. Also, last I heard, Tevez was the highest paid soccer player in the world at around £280-290 per week, which would make their numbers wrong since they have CR as the highest paid.
Heh. Don't play a Chinese guy. Or, an Indonesian or Malaysian guy.
At my last job, there were couple of Asian girls who used to play quite a bit, and I asked to tag along and play just for fun one day. They murdered me - I don't know that I won a point. It was lots of fun, but much much harder than I had remembered from PE class.
I'm guessing that Bermuda's per capita GDP is not really $100,000
Wouldn't surprise me, but I bet it's very highly skewed. A lot of money to be made in reinsurance.
When that guy made those multiple posts a few years ago that paragraph was complete gibberish to me. Now that I follow soccer I understand it! Sort of...
No one cares about domestic cricket in England. Maybe there is a scenario where domestic cricket could be more popular as a spectator sport, but it'll take wholesale changes at the ECB. It'll never be that popular - football is too big.
The difference between English cricket and Indian cricket is anybody investing in India knew the people would come so long as the competition was credible. Nobody in England has the foggiest clue where domestic cricket's audience is coming from both in the grounds and on TV.
Rugby league is popular in Australia. More popular than cricket BTW. And if Murdoch were willing to do it, why hasn't he done it yet?
It is "inexpensive" because you only have the players for slightly less than 2 months. It is "chump" change because you are only paying the players for slightly less than 2 months. You only get revenues from them, for less than 2 months. Often less than that, since some boards ask their players to either leave early, or go late, see for example the Sri Lankan board, who have requested their IPL players leave early to prepare for the test tour of England.
Right. Bernie Madoff wasn't a known criminal either.
No. I'm not convinced that it can become bigger than whatever India offers, and be better at attracting star players, since India has a much larger population, AND has cricket as the mass participation / mass appeal sport. Cricket is very much a minority sport in England & Wales. The much larger Indian population balances out England's greater per capita wealth, which leaves the popularity issue. Whoever wants to try to challenge the IPL with an English equivalent better be prepared to lose money for some time.
Which is why the Aussies and the Saffers did not have the hubris to try to challenge the IPL, but chose to get closely involved in it.
Get them to play some tennis. Generally, badminton skills don't transfer to tennis, they can sometimes be detrimental, if the player's badminton style relies on moving the #### around, and making the opponent chase the ####.
My day is made. One of my very few talents, reworking tired, old chestnuts.
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