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Tuesday, June 09, 2009

Beyond the Boxscore: Kalkman: Interview With John Sickels & Open Draft Day Discussion Post

As the young men move out into the battle zone of the ML Draft…Sky pilots an interview with Sickels.

BtB: Are there any prospects where there might be a divide between scouts and statheads?

John Sickels: They line up more than you’d think. Scouts have been higher on Cameron Maybin than a lot of statheads, who have worried about his strikeouts and low line drive tendency cutting into his power production. That would be one example. Statheads like Jaff Decker more than traditional scouts do, though even traditionalists respect his bat. They just worry about where he will fit defensively. Pre-season, some statheads (including me) were really worried about Mike Stanton’s strikeout rate, while scouts focused more on his physical projection and his youth. Stanton has really improved his plate discipline this year and looks to be a favorite of both camps now. Again, the differences aren’t as strong as they were 15 or even five years ago.

BtB:How will Pitch f/x (and soon Hit f/x) affect the accuracy, and cost, of scouting?

John Sickels: Honestly, I haven’t thought a lot about this yet. It’s been in the majors so far, and frankly when a player gets to the majors and graduates out of rookie status, I start to lose interest in them since I focus mostly on the minors and prospects. When a rookie gets to the show, I’ll look at his Pitch f/x stuff, though if he still has rookie status the data set is usually limited. What I really want is Pitch f/x for the minors. Then we can answer that question.

Repoz Posted: June 09, 2009 at 10:30 AM | 39 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 02:34 PM (#3210986)
I'm kind of curious as to where the Pirates will go tonight. It doesn't sound like BA has any idea. Their last mock mentioned Crow, Green, and Zach Wheeler, with Borchering, Tim Wheeler, and Hobgood as signability fallbacks.
   2. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 02:42 PM (#3210997)
What's with the late/incomplete draft coverage from BA/PG Crosschecker? Several of BA's states are missing content for guys beyond the top 200 - PG Crosschecker is still rolling out their top 250 bios / states as well.
   3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 02:55 PM (#3211020)
"What's with the late/incomplete draft coverage from BA/PG Crosschecker?"

Don't know, but it's kind of pissing me off.

It's not like the date of the draft has been some big secret.
   4. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 03:06 PM (#3211033)
I'm somewhere between that and disappointed (though I, by nature, am an extremely easy to please customer). Both sites should, at minimum, note the omissions or apologize for the delay.
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 03:43 PM (#3211091)
"I'm somewhere between that and disappointed (though I, by nature, am an extremely easy to please customer). Both sites should, at minimum, note the omissions or apologize for the delay."

I don't have a whole lot of spare money right now, and I re-upped my subscription largely with the intent of being able to read something that's not there.
   6. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:24 PM (#3211153)
I hadn't had time to bone up on this stuff yet, so I'm going to try to ignore the draft (I think) - read about guys - then see who went where, so I'm less affected by the delays than most.
Of course, your point is totally valid.
   7. Tripon Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:27 PM (#3211157)
Keith Law has the Pirates looking:

Pittsburgh's mix is now Tony Sanchez, Zack Wheeler, Matt Hobgood and Grant Green. There's some thought they could take Aaron Crow and offer him slot, given his lack of leverage.
   8. JJ1986 Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:29 PM (#3211158)
I don't like Sanchez, Hobgood or Green for Pittsburgh there. Wheeler would be by far the best of those choices.
   9. Rusty Priske Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:32 PM (#3211162)
The draft isn't until this evening, right?

Is that new? I swear I was able to follow along while at work previous years.
   10. The Buddy Biancalana Hit Counter Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:34 PM (#3211167)
The draft isn't until this evening, right?

Is that new? I swear I was able to follow along while at work previous years.


Correct on all counts. Productivity is up, but morale is down.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 04:35 PM (#3211168)
Yes, its new. Starts at 6 ET. Only three rounds tonight, the rest will be tomorrow.

Seems like there is a lot more fluidity to the draft than in past year. In the past it seemed like the first ten picks were relatively stable, with a few surprises, but this year at the last second there seems to be a lot of reports of guys going much higher than expected. Of course, it could turn out to be all smokescreens, and the top ten picks were what we thought they would be last week.
   12. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:09 PM (#3211203)
Only three rounds tonight, the rest will be tomorrow.

An interesting thing about this is that there are compensation picks the subsequent year when guys don't sign for rounds 1-3 - this now aligns with the draft schedule (you'll often see a flurry of picks w/ signability questions at the end/beginning of a day's selections as teams/advisors/players have more time to discuss/negotiate when the draft isn't going on).
   13. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:20 PM (#3211224)
Okay, no one read the dugout so I'll reask. What's a PG Crosschecker? One of these years I'll be ggeky enough to be a Mel Kiperesque figure like Max or D-K, but it hasn't happened yet.
   14. RJ in TO Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:25 PM (#3211242)
What's a PG Crosschecker?


I have no idea, but they appear to have a website: www.pgcrosschecker.com
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:28 PM (#3211248)
Keith Law now says Scheppers and Crow will fall out of the first round. There is about a 0% chance of that happening, right?
   16. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:28 PM (#3211249)
www.pgcrosschecker.com - an offshoot of the Perfect Game USA group - it's a player rating/draft site, superior in some respects to what BA (which has a much more diverse focus) puts out. The writeups are from Allan Simpson (who started BA), David Rawnsley, and Anup Sinha. Kinda pricey, but this is my hobby.
   17. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:30 PM (#3211254)
Keith Law now says Scheppers and Crow will fall out of the first round.
If that happens, I'll eat your hat.
   18. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:35 PM (#3211263)
Kinda pricey, but this is my hobby.


Understand. That's like me and historical stuff.
   19. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:39 PM (#3211274)
Incidentally, I was thinking of you the other day, GGC, while reading "A Well-Paid Slave" which features Kuhn prominently. How's your Kuhn writeup coming along?
   20. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:44 PM (#3211285)
How's your Kuhn writeup coming along?


I'm taking a break from that. I started another project and am (at the moment) mulling another one.
   21. Jorge Luis Bourjos (Walewander) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:49 PM (#3211297)
STRASBURG AT 9. MAKE IT HAPPEN, DAVE.

Seriously, any thoughts on Jacob Turner, a guy a lot of mock drafts have tagged for the Tigres?
   22. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:55 PM (#3211310)
Here's another draft thread.
   23. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 09, 2009 at 05:56 PM (#3211313)
So what do you guys think of the short kid from Arizona St. The B-Pro mock has him going to Oakland. I freely admit I do not follow college baseball at all, but this stats are ridiculously impressive.
   24. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 06:07 PM (#3211337)
Leake - Solid #3 starter.
His teammate Josh Spence is awesome by the way. Classic no-stuff, destroys hitters anyway guy. I have a long history of overrating this type... :)
   25. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:04 PM (#3211458)
Just wanted to go on the record in as many places as possible that Sanchez at #4 is the dumbest idea ever.
   26. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:23 PM (#3211491)
Just wanted to go on the record in as many places as possible that Sanchez at #4 is the dumbest idea ever.

You know you're cursing yourself, right?
   27. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:39 PM (#3211519)
"You know you're cursing yourself, right?"

I don't care. Since all the media places seem to have Sanchez as a near-lock at this point, the best thing I can hope for is to put on my Cassandra mask and dance in the ashes.
   28. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:41 PM (#3211525)
I don't care. Since all the media places seem to have Sanchez as a near-lock at this point, the best thing I can hope for is to put on my Cassandra mask and dance in the ashes.

As a fan of the Golden State Warriors, I completely understand.
   29. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:41 PM (#3211527)
supposedly, KLaw has posted that the Pirates have a pre-draft deal done with Sanchez ...
   30. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3211532)
Sorry, Vlad... I don't like him either.
   31. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:43 PM (#3211534)
D'oh. Hang in there Vlad! Tomorrow's another day!
   32. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:52 PM (#3211554)
"D'oh. Hang in there Vlad! Tomorrow's another day!"

Yeah, another day for the same guys who just recommended they take Sanchez to waste the rest of the draft.

On the plus side, it's only an hour and change until drinking time.
   33. JPWF13 Posted: June 09, 2009 at 07:59 PM (#3211568)
Just wanted to go on the record in as many places as possible that Sanchez at #4 is the dumbest idea ever


who do you think DL would take at #4 this year?
   34. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: June 09, 2009 at 08:03 PM (#3211579)
Minor, the kid from Vandy.
   35. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 09, 2009 at 08:09 PM (#3211589)
"who do you think DL would take at #4 this year?"

In a world where he's still running the Pirates?

I could see Sanchez as the pick there, too. Minor would make sense, in that he's relatively low upside and basically the same type as Paul Maholm. And you can never count out a college reliever like Storen.
   36. MM1f Posted: June 10, 2009 at 08:26 AM (#3212725)
So, does anyone have favorite sleepers for part 2 of the draft today?
I'm still all over Ryan Wood. That kid is going to be a bargain for someone
   37. base ball chick Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM (#3212734)
can anyone find any info besides what is on the draft day site about jiovanni mier, the astros pick?
   38. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:36 AM (#3212737)
Very good glove, marginal bat, high-character kid.
   39. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:38 AM (#3212738)
How's the hangover, Vlad?

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