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Wednesday, January 08, 2014

Big Leagues in Los Angeles: Another Hall of Fame vote, another round of questions

Bill Peterson passed along his explanation of his Hall of Fame vote, which he began casting in 2000. He covered baseball for the late Cincinnati Post from 1986 through 1998 and is a lifetime member of the BBWAA.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 08, 2014 at 02:34 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: January 08, 2014 at 02:59 PM (#4633500)
The ballot: Maddux, Glavine, Biggio, Bagwell, Raines, Morris - he describes these six as easy votes. Then, he votes for Schilling, Mussina, Piazza, and Lee Smith. He also says he likes Frank Thomas a ton, a little more DH than he'd like, and that Thomas will probably make it this year, anyway - but if he doesn't, he'd be glad to vote for him next year.

He also says if he could, he would vote for Walker and McGriff.

He also puts Pedro, Randy Johnson, and Smoltz in his "new no-brainers for 2015". I am seeing Smoltz get lumped in with Martinez and Johnson a lot in these articles. Add to that the fact that Maddux, Glavine, and Cox all will get in this year, and I think we may be surprised at Smoltz's chances of getting 75% next year.
   2. Ray K Posted: January 08, 2014 at 03:13 PM (#4633567)
Not a bad ballot.
   3. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: January 08, 2014 at 03:20 PM (#4633601)
I wonder if any of the guys who cut Biggio so they could have someone like Raines, Edgar or Trammel on their ballot are regretting that decision now.
   4. John Northey Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:07 PM (#4634884)
It'll be interesting to see how it affects the balloting next year, having Biggio come soooooo close. I suspect more strategic voting, namely voting for guys with a real shot at getting in, will occur even if the individual voter feels someone else is more qualified. Good for Biggio and Piazza, maybe good for Bagwell and Raines. Everyone else...watch out.

FYI: for 2015's ballot by WAR you get Smoltz at #10 and #11 as Tim Raines. Biggio is #13, Piazza #16. Lee Smith, of course, is way down the list at #26. Interesting to see Tom Gordon on the ballot for next year. Also a deep relief core with Smith and Percival over 350 saves each plus 5 more with 100+.

For Jays fans seeing B.J. Ryan and Kelvim Escobar and David Weathers is interesting (Carlos Delgado we all hope sticks around awhile). Ryan was the waste of millions, Escobar was viewed as a mistake to let go (14.3 WAR once gone mainly in 2 very solid years), and Weathers was a very minor part of the 92 WS team before being drafted in the expansion draft by the Marlins.
   5. toratoratora Posted: January 09, 2014 at 04:40 PM (#4634940)
Smoltz is so in next year.
Has a mainstream BBWAA writer ever said anything about him not being a HoF'er?

Not saying that it didn't happen,just that I certainly can't remember it. He's Curly to Maddux and Glavine's Larry and Moe, has the stats (I'm not saying that he's the best possible option, just that he has the credentials to make the hall), drips narrative, was a terrific postseason pitcher (He went 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA in 209 IP), was an integral part of a dynasty, has the whole "took one for the team by going to the BP."

Is he a first vote guy, especially on this ballot?
Not to me.
But the writers are putting him in pronto. My bet is 80%.
Don't be shocked if it's higher,either

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