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1. Tripon Posted: October 04, 2008 at 03:56 AM (#2967218)I know I'll be in the minority, but I'll select "Groundhog Day".
So not a tough one for me.....
I dig Groundhog Day, too, though.
I'll back that choice fully. I absolutely feel that Groundhog Day is one of the very best movies I've ever seen. No other comedy I've seen has ever had such a great emotional pull and it never feels hokey at all; Bill Murray's character transformation is one of the most convincing, heartfelt developments I've ever seen in a film. Very few actors could've pulled off that combination of comedy and drama, and I doubt there's anybody in recent memory that could've done it as well as Murray. Groundhog Day is truly a fantastic movie.
1. Rushmore
2. Tootsie
3. Groundhog Day
4. Ghostbusters
5. Garfield 2: A Tale of Two Kitties
Best Bill Murray line delivery, from the swimming pool baptism scene in "Ed Wood":
Preacher: Welcome to the fold, brother. Welcome. Praise the lord. Do you reject Satan and all his evils?
Murray: Sure.
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2. The Royal Tenanbaums
3. Stripes
4. Lost In Translation
5. Groundhog Day
Now Wild Things, that would put you in a minority.
Lost in Translation
Rushmore
Royal Tenenbaums
Wild Things (the movie sucked, but he was great in it)
I can't believe Caddyshack doesn't sneak into the top 5. He's been in some wonderful movies through the years.
EDIT: Posted before I saw #10. I guess that's twice this week I'll be in the minority.
Incidentally, while I've never met him, he goes to a consignment shop for a charity that my Mom runs, and apparently in person he is as nice as you could ask for, including helping move furniture around while his (now) ex-wife shopped.
I'll throw Quick Change out there for debate. One of the more underrated 80's comedies, and something I would be glad to watch anytime.
Lost in Translation has faced some backlash, but I reckon that's one his finer performances too.
1. Lost in Translation (Quite possibly my favorite film altogether... either this or Garden State)
2. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (I fully recognize that this is a very flawed film, but I love it anyway)
3. Rushmore
4. Groundhog Day
5. Broken Flowers
6. Ghostbusters
7. The Razor's Edge
8. Scrooged
9. Quick Change
10. Stripes
I believe I have seen every Bill Murray movie, with the exception of Caddyshack (gasp!). Also, I am not including Ed Wood, as I don't really consider that a Bill Murray movie. If I were to include it, it would probably slot in between Broken Flowers and Ghostbusters.
to be legends forever.
My favorite Bill Murray performance is Lost in Translation. I'm not sure I've ever seen a performance that was so evocatively "real".
But from a holistic, objective, semi-subjective point of view, I would name Groundhog Day as his best movie. The story, I think, is denser and more layered than either of the two above.
Edit: Scrooged, now that's an underrated movie.
Agreed. Not his best film, but only because he's made so many great films. Well worth catching when it's shown in December on some channel or another.
Oh, and I quite agree that The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is an excellent film, and one of his better performances. I loved how he told the crowd of environmentalists that he was going to kill the newly discovered species of Jaguar Shark for revenge, with a totally straight face. Also one of Jeff Goldblum's more hilarious roles.
His performance is good enough for me to ignore Andie McDowell's terrible performance and hearing the opening strains of "I Got You Babe" over and over again.
IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!
NL Central 0-4
Noonan! NOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm serious about two of those.
It's bad luck just seeing a thing like that.
My favorite Murray movies:
Broken Flowers (has no one else seen this?)
Ground Hog Day
Caddyshack
Stripes
Lost in Translation
Meatballs (I like 80's slob vs. snobs comedies. It's a weakness of mine.)
Tootsie
Rushmore
Little Shop of Horrors (holy crap did that scene make me laugh back in the day.)
Movies I don't necessarily love but I liked Murray's performance:
Kingpin
Ed Wood
Ghostbusters
The Life Aquatic
Hamlet
Scrooged
Movies of his I haven't seen but should check out:
Wild Things
The Razor's Edge
Where the Buffalo Roam
Mad Dog and Glory
Not in my opinion. It probably did decent business at the time, but I couldn't stand it. That was his big comeback vehicle after no one went to The Razor's Edge and Murray more or less disappeared for a few years. Murray was wrong for Scrooged; maybe Steve Martin would have been better. Maybe no one could have saved it.
Murray hasn't really made much out and out comedy since Groundhog Day, his last film with Ramis. Harold Ramis was certainly responsible for a lot of great movies as a writer. Not much of an actor.
Murray wound up getting Ghostbusters because Belushi died. Honestly, in retrospect Ramis and Ackroyd had a lot more to do with the success of that movie than Murray. Though I think Murray was better in it than Belushi would have been. I think Belushi would have struggled a bit to continue to find successful roles, more than Murray did. Of course when you base much of your persona on being dead by the time you're 30, if you don't actually die then what?
I thought Ramis got his role in GB because Belushi died...oh, well.
At least by dying, John Belushi avoided the ultimate ignominy: starring in 21st-century kid's movies and/or ABC sitcoms...
It was #5 on my top ten list in post 14. I absolutely love this movie!
You should definitely watch The Razor's Edge, it is quite a departure from other early era Bill Murray movies.
Do you not remember the final scene? There's this part in his speech where he chokes up a little while saying (I think), "The miracle can happen to you!" It gets me every time I see it.
It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter. Even if you play so far over your heads that you get nosebleeds for a week to ten days, it just doesn't matter because all the really hot chicks are out in southern California near Dodger Stadium. It . . just . . doesn't . . matter. It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter!! It just doesn't matter!!!
Almost all of his characters unlikeable people who are detached from society yet he somehow makes them interesting.
Life Aquatic
Scrooged
Groundhog Day
Lost in Translation
Mad Dog and Glory
Royal Tenenbaums
Rushmore
What about Bob
Boobies!
1. Where the Buffalo Roam
2. Life Aquatic
3. Caddyshack
4. Scrooged/Groundhog Day (Tie)
5. Rushmore
Honorable Mention: What About Bob & Ed Wood (not enough of Murray in Wood to include it on the list)
And Stripes was rated RRRRRRR!
That was the whole thing about the double-header. They could show the PG Meatballs before... 9, I think, and then the R Stripes afterwards. And Meatballs was a pretty dirty PG.
As far as Porky's and Revenge of the Nerds and similar stuff, I never thought they were all that funny OR titillating, even at 13.
Michael Jordan: Larry [Bird]'s white, so what?
Murray: Larry's not white. Larry's clear.
My ranking:
1. Rushmore
2. Groundhog Day
3. Kingpin
4. Royal Tenenbaums (one of my favourite ever films, but Bill is a bit peripheral to it)
5. Where The Buffalo Roam
6. Lost In Translation
7. What About Bob
Bill was my favourite actor for many years, but I soured on him a bit after Broken Flowers - I felt he was doing the same thing over and over. I'm excited he's got a new flick coming out. He is great in Hamlet. I thought Broken Flowers was very poor, and I need to watch The Life Aquatic again - I was disappointed the first time, but everyone tells me I need to see it a couple more times to enjoy it more. I should rewatch Ghostbusters again, too, and I can't believe I've yet to see Ed Wood. I doubt Bill ever did a worse film than The Man Who Knew To Little.
I'll second the idea of Life Aquatic being better on a second viewing - I wasn't keen on it initially, but laughed quite a bit on take 2. (Particularly, for some reason, at the t-shirt Jeff Goldblum wears at one point in the movie - I have no idea why, but I still think of it every now and then.)
Granted, for some reason, Die Hard is also one of those movies for me so maybe I'm not the best judge.
(Note, I dislike Willis, I dislike action movies generally, I dislike the subtext of that movie -- though am always entertained how many people miss it although it's incredibly obvious and will admit that it's so obvious I debate with myself whether it's actually self-deprecating in intent in which case I like it -- but I'm always happy killing 2 hours watching it as long as I don't have to go to any effort. Mainly Alan Rickman probably -- a brilliant over-the-top performance.)
Until the Bourne movies came along, I've always felt that Die Hard could reasonably be called the best action movie ever made. And even to this day, I think Alan Rickman's "Hans Gruber" is my favorite screen villain.
I just realized how ironic this is given the plot of Groundhog Day.
I agree on the greatness of Scrooged. Groundhog Day just edges it in my pantheon of Murray films. I don't want this thread to get political, but I get the same kinds of feeling when I see a really nice Barack Obama Hope/Change speech. Murray's lines about the people having trouble making their miracle happen and how we all have to try to keep helping others make their miracles happen are so genuine and touching... really filled with hope about the best in human beings. Really good stuff. So much other great stuff in that movie too... I mean, it's got Marion Ravenwood in it, for God's sake.
I've been search for a YouTube/Internet clip forever...
"That beyotch hit me with a toaster!"
"All day long I listen to people give me excuses why they can't work. My legs hurt. My back aches. [Well-timed pause.] I'm only four."
"I got fired, my wife left me, she took our little baby daughter...[Shotgun blast]
with her."
I thought Ramis got his role in GB because Belushi died...oh, well.
You two are confused; it was Sir Ben Kingsley who got his role in "Gandhi" because Belushi died.
That's something akin to a team getting rid of an in-the-prime Jose Canseco and replacing him with Ozzie Canseco.
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