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Tuesday, August 05, 2014

Biogenesis Scandal implicates more players.

Or to put it another way, get ready for another month or more of wondering when all of this will play out and which of your favorite players will be Braun’d, Melky’d, or Nelson’d out of their reputation and roster spot for 50 or more games. The focus will be off the races, off the teams, and on the guessing game of who gets outed next. Gee, thanks, “Dr.” Bosch.

There she is! There she is.

Dale Sams Posted: August 05, 2014 at 10:38 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: August 06, 2014 at 08:43 AM (#4765343)
Fans of shitestorms are praying that one of the names is Derek Jeter.
   2. Lassus Posted: August 06, 2014 at 08:57 AM (#4765347)
Probably it would turn people back around. "They are just trying to win!"
   3. TJ Posted: August 06, 2014 at 09:35 AM (#4765364)
Fans of shitestorms are praying that one of the names is Derek Jeter.


Detroit's Joba Chamberlain hit Jeter with a pitch last night. It is expected that MLB will today announce that Chamberlain has been suspended until the Yankees hold a "Derek Jeter Night", at which time Joba will be publicly executed.
   4. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:01 AM (#4765381)
Publicly executed by trampoline jump?
   5. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:32 AM (#4765415)
All right-minded people hope that it's Jeter.

Jeter = user might actually put an end to this nonsense. Following the explosion of the heads of the anti-steroids crusaders.
   6. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:37 AM (#4765421)
Remember back when this story was first breaking and so many of the dopes around here buried their heads in the sand and said nothing would come of it?

Yeah, it's pretty darn funny to remember that.
   7. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:43 AM (#4765427)
#6, actually I don't remember anyone saying that.
   8. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4765435)
Quoting from Mike Lupica, below. I don't think he's correct here. Lawyers? What ARod said on the radio ("radio testimony," Mike?) is not obstruction of justice and wouldn't subject him to perjury charges, even if he was lying through his teeth the entire time. And if he's called to answer questions from the feds he can just take the fifth. If he's called to testify in court he can just take the 5th if they don't grant him immunity.

If he's _already_ made statements to the feds then he could be on the hook for obstruction depending on what those statements were, but his radio comments are irrelevant to anything.

Quoting:

No, he said on the radio, he wasn’t guilty of any of the charges leveled against him. No, he’d never done anything wrong. No, he’d never used PEDs. No, he had never obstructed justice. No, no, no. He denied until the end, and then this innocent, falsely accused man took a suspension that took him out of baseball for a year.

Now he better hope that the government doesn’t have evidence that contradicts his radio testimony about never having obstructed justice. If he was lying about that, being in a world of trouble with Bud Selig will be the least of his problems.

Here is what Tom Harvey, a New York City criminal attorney who also acts as this paper’s legal analyst, and who has brought common legal sense to Rodriguez and the Biogenesis case all along, said on Tuesday:

“I think A-Rod’s best-case scenario is that all the information about his past drug use will be exposed as a result of the feds’ arrests of Bosch and others. Again, that’s his best-case scenario. Unlike MLB investigators, the feds have subpoena power and the ability to prosecute people for lying. The information the feds have gathered during the investigation could easily end up being revealed in court during the criminal prosecutions. And A-Rod could be called by either side to testify, subjecting him to questions about any and all of his prior drug use.”

The notion that the government is finished with Biogenesis now that they have put guys in handcuffs is ridiculous, the way the idea that Rodriguez is in the clear is ridiculous.
   9. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:54 AM (#4765436)
All right-minded people losers hope that it's Jeter.


This, of course, comes as no surprise.
   10. Joey B. is counting the days to Trea Turner Posted: August 06, 2014 at 10:59 AM (#4765443)
#6, actually I don't remember anyone saying that.

That's because you have selective amnesia.
   11. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:13 AM (#4765465)
All <strikethrough>right-minded people</strikethrough> losers hope that it's Jeter.


This, of course, comes as no surprise.


Why would Yankee fans hope it's Jeter?
   12. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4765481)
"I cite the case of Rubber v. Glue as precedent."
   13. Ray (RDP) Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4765536)
Further to my #8, it seems clear to me that Lupica didn't understand the comments of his own legal analyst. Because Lupica seems obsessed about whether ARod lied during his radio interview (*) and seems to conclude that ARod could be in legal hot water for lying during the radio interview -- but the comments from the legal analyst that Lupica cites immediately after, as if they support his idiotic point about "radio testimony," have nothing to do with the radio interview.

(*) From reading the facts recited in Horowitz's arbitration ruling I think it's reasonable to conclude that ARod knowingly used steroids and thus lied during his "radio testimony" (lol). My point about ARod was never that he didn't use PEDS provided to him by Bosch; it was always that MLB overstepped its authority with the level of discipline they handed down, and then that Horowitz was wrong to uphold even 162 games. Clearly Horowitz disagreed with me :-)
   14. catseyepub Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:29 PM (#4765545)
Does the name Joe Bisceglie ring a bell?
   15. Bug Selig Posted: August 06, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4765557)
My point about ARod was never that he didn't use PEDS provided to him by Bosch; it was always that MLB overstepped its authority with the level of discipline they handed down


I think the, let's say "investigative creativity", that MLB used in this case is a far bigger deal than simply the length of the suspension. MLB bought documents that they knew were stolen and paid a felon for testimony - all in a stunningly ironic quest to substantiate A-Rod's pattern of scumbaggery. MLB's conduct, and MLBPA's complicity in it (I'm sorry the man died of cancer, but his last significant act as Director was to willfully refuse to do his job), far outstrip anything A-Rod, Pete Rose, or Marge Schott ever did.
   16. valuearbitrageur Posted: August 06, 2014 at 05:50 PM (#4765898)
the feds have subpoena power and the ability to prosecute people for lying. The information the feds have gathered during the investigation could easily end up being revealed in court during the criminal prosecutions


I imagine it's getting quite sweaty in Rob Manfreds underwear.

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