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Tuesday, September 17, 2013

Bleacher Report: Brandon Phillips Forces Jonathan Villar into a ‘Butt Slide’

In the bottom of the first inning against Houston, Cincinnati Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips pulled a cruel, cruel trick on Astros shortstop Jonathan Villar when he forced him to slide directly into his butt while protecting second base.

As if his head placement wasn’t embarrassing enough, Villar was called out on the play.

bobm Posted: September 17, 2013 at 11:00 PM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. jdennis Posted: September 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM (#4544156)
Just another way Brandon Phillips contributes beyond the numbers. His clever and calculated hazing of the other team's players psychologically damages them such that they become non-competitive. Some might say that these events have a random distribution and can largely be attributed to chance and/or are context-dependent, but those people don't love baseball. This is just another way Phillips proves that baseball is an art, not a science.
   2. base ball chick Posted: September 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM (#4544157)
villar is a really lousy ballplayer

still can't figure out why he has been pimped like he has
   3. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 18, 2013 at 01:33 AM (#4544197)
Mark Sanchez was unavailable for comment.
   4. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 18, 2013 at 02:18 AM (#4544214)
Another thing Votto cannot do!
   5. Bhaakon Posted: September 18, 2013 at 02:48 AM (#4544217)
And that's why you slide feet-first, kids.
   6. WiHaloFan Posted: September 18, 2013 at 07:15 AM (#4544234)
Kinda curious as to why the Bleacher Report article is here when the original is on SB Nation? Isn't Bleacher Report the internet sports Antichrist?
   7. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 18, 2013 at 07:22 AM (#4544236)
Butthole surfing?
   8. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:05 AM (#4544248)
How does Brandon Phillips get away with #### like this? Practically anybody else--PARTICULARLY somebody younger--and I'd expect the MSM to be screaming bloody murder about him Not Respecting The Game.
   9. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:20 AM (#4544256)
villar is a really lousy ballplayer

still can't figure out why he has been pimped like he has


bbc, the numbers don't exactly back your comments. Granted SSS, but 0.7 bWAR in a third of a season would point to a solid contribution. Does he do dumb stuff?
   10. BDC Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:39 AM (#4544262)
I know Phillips is popular and all, but there's no need to literally kiss his ###.
   11. TDF, situational idiot Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:51 AM (#4544268)
How does Brandon Phillips get away with #### like this?
Because he smiles alot? Because he always talks to the media? I have no idea.

You'd think the media would have been all over him for what he did to Rosecrans a couple weeks ago, but they weren't.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:53 AM (#4544270)
The funniest part was when his face hit Brandon's butt.
   13. eddieot Posted: September 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM (#4544271)
Villar is a really lousy ballplayer

He has made some base running boners but when you have absolutely no power and your game is speed and aggressiveness that will happen from time to time. But .287, 17 SBs and 24 runs in 164 ABs has some value, especially in fantasy. The .941 fielding percentage? Not so much.
   14. Tricky Dick Posted: September 18, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4544320)
when you have absolutely no power

Villar hasn't shown much power yet in the majors, but he exhibited a fair amount of power (for a middle infielder) in the minors. He had a .165 ISO in AAA this year, and he usually was in the .150-ish range in the minor leagues. I think he will need to show some power in future years in order to carve out a career as a starter, given that his current batting line is inflated by a high BABIP.

And, yes, he makes some stupid base running mistakss. He was benched mid-game by Porter a week or so ago because he attempted to steal a base without recognizing the situation. He has terrific defensive tools, but he will occasionally blow the easy play, while also making spectacular fielding plays. He is only 22 years old. So maybe it's just youth and he will grow out of it...or maybe not. Have to wait and see.

As for that slide play, that's a vicious butt hit. :)
   15. base ball chick Posted: September 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM (#4544353)
he's a really lousy fielder - i think he's at SS because altuve is at 2B ands because they were gonna put junior deshields at second, too

he moves fast but fast movement does not = good instincts or anything else. i know we aren't supposed to consider errors, but he should have a lot more than the 12 he does already have

he also has no sense on when to run or not run - reminds me of willy taveras, only not so much

he's been really pimped, as if he were Something Really Good, and i can't see any of it - sort of like jimmy paredes - i guess because they got them in trade for good players
   16. bunyon Posted: September 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM (#4544378)
How does Brandon Phillips get away with #### like this? Practically anybody else--PARTICULARLY somebody younger--and I'd expect the MSM to be screaming bloody murder about him Not Respecting The Game.

Seriously? It looks to me like he wasn't sure he could catch the ball and spin and get the tag down. He made a good, smart play IMO.

I'd need to see it from a wider angle to see that there was any intent. And Villar could have slid feet first which would have solved all the problems here.
   17. SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4544424)
Seriously? It looks to me like he wasn't sure he could catch the ball and spin and get the tag down. He made a good, smart play IMO.


That was my impression. He didn't think he had enough time (he was mistaken), so he just slapped the glove down in hopes of getting an out. I don't know why anyone would be criticized for that play, particularly one where an out was recorded.

   18. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM (#4544442)
But why did Phillips receive the ball in that position? He didn't need to straddle that bag and turn his shoulders exactly 180 degrees opposite the runner.

Answering myself on edit > maybe the fact that the throw was from very shallow centerfield gave Phillips less time to adjust.
   19. The Ghost fouled out, but stays in the game Posted: September 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM (#4544479)
Vilar would have been safe if he'd kept his head down and reached with one hand. However, I'll refrain from saying he should have been smart enough to react that way, since BP's strange tagging method couldn't be expected.
   20. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: September 18, 2013 at 12:37 PM (#4544486)
How does Brandon Phillips get away with #### like this? Practically anybody else--PARTICULARLY somebody younger--and I'd expect the MSM to be screaming bloody murder about him Not Respecting The Game.


Could you inagine if Puig did something like this? The national writers would have an orgasmic experience because of all the column inches they would get to fill.
   21. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 18, 2013 at 02:04 PM (#4544541)
People seriously think Phillips did something wrong? He caught the ball and put a tag down. A few frat boys thought it was funny because Villar's face hit Phillips' butt, ha ha ha, subtle homophobic bashing is funny!, and now it's a thing?
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4544547)
People seriously think Phillips did something wrong?


No, people seriously think other people would think Phillips did something wrong if someone other than Phillips did it. Frankly, I'm a little baffled by it. I really doubt anyone would take exception to this play regardless the participants. It was odd, but it seemed understandable how it happened.

BTW, the AP write-up of the game had this:

Phillips said he wasn't trying to showboat, and he initially didn't realize that Villar was coming.

"The crowd let me know that he was coming to second base," Phillips said. "I just had to quickly put the tag between my legs. That's the only reason I tagged him. If I didn't hear the crowd, I would have just caught it and looked around and he would have been safe."

However, he probably could have tagged him in a less showy way.

"That's me," he said with a laugh. "I do things off the wall, yes."


   23. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: September 18, 2013 at 02:24 PM (#4544560)
Could you imagine if Puig did something like this? The national writers would have an orgasmic experience because of all the column inches they would get to fill.
Pretty much what I thought.

With the Dodgers in Arizona, I recommend listening to the D-backs TV feed, in which Bob Brenly doesn't bother to hide his contempt for Puig.
   24. I Am Not a Number Posted: September 18, 2013 at 03:05 PM (#4544590)
That would have been a really cool play if he had actually applied the tag. The umpire seemed overly impressed by the tactic and forgot what his job function was.
   25. jmurph Posted: September 18, 2013 at 04:24 PM (#4544627)
That would have been a really cool play if he had actually applied the tag. The umpire seemed overly impressed by the tactic and forgot what his job function was.


Didn't see a good angle, but yeah, he seemed obviously safe to me. He looks to have been tagged on the head well after his hand was in (EDIT: that's if he was tagged at all), going by the angle shown on ESPN this morning.
   26. SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2013 at 04:28 PM (#4544632)
Didn't see a good angle, but yeah, he seemed obviously safe to me. He looks to have been tagged on the head well after his hand was in, going by the angle shown on ESPN this morning.


I saw another angle last night from the third base side that looked like he may not have maintained contact with the base at all times, though I don't think that's why he was called out. It definitely looked like he got his hand in first, though.

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