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Tuesday, February 04, 2014

Bleacher Report: Finding the Best Consumer Value

One of those annual comparisons of stadium prices and experiences that crops up in the sleepiest season for baseball news. 

The Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees and Chicago Cubs are three of the most iconic teams in baseball, but given their inflated ticket prices, it’s hard to call any of them a bargain.

BDC Posted: February 04, 2014 at 09:45 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. valuearbitrageur Posted: February 04, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4651583)
Pretty sure Yankees are now offering AARP discounts, given their endorsement of senior citizens.
   2. dr. scott Posted: February 04, 2014 at 04:47 PM (#4651587)
Interesting to consider the Giants a bargain with the A's so close. that being said the best deals I got last year were lower level seats for under $20 at AT&T on stubhub before memorial day about an hour before the game. After memorial day those deals all dried up.
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: February 04, 2014 at 04:48 PM (#4651588)
Before reading the article, if I had to guess who would be number one it would have been the Pirates. I was thinking the Rays would probably be second best but didn't consider the quality of the park that knocked them out of contention.
   4. DL from MN Posted: February 04, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4651607)
Baltimore did really well for most of the ratings (park, ticket cost, concessions).
   5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 04, 2014 at 06:22 PM (#4651681)
Bleacher Report


Lost interest right there, sorry.
   6. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: February 05, 2014 at 09:26 PM (#4652391)
Baltimore did really well for most of the ratings (park, ticket cost, concessions).

A buddy of mine went to see an O's-Yanks weekend series in Baltimore a few years back, claiming that tickets to all three games, plus hotel and food, cost less than than one comparable ticket in YS plus parking.
   7. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: February 06, 2014 at 12:16 AM (#4652462)
Average ticket price is really a misleading way to do this. Average ticket price is way too sensitive to crazy outlier expensive luxury box stuff to reflect the cost for the normal fan. The median is really the way to go for this kind of analysis (or excluding luxury boxes altogether), although now that I look at the top teams it might not change it that much.

My guess would still be that Pittsburgh has comparatively few expensive luxury box tickets compared to other stadiums/teams.

   8. greenback calls it soccer Posted: February 06, 2014 at 12:30 AM (#4652469)
I can get good Reds tickets for about half the price of similar Cardinals tickets. Aside from the weird love for Brandon Phillips, I can't say that the ballpark experience is any different either. Both cities have even made comparable half-hearted efforts to clean up the moonscape sites of the former nearby ballparks.
   9. Swoboda is freedom Posted: February 06, 2014 at 12:33 AM (#4652470)
My uncle lived in Cleveland and I have gone out to visit a couple of times over the last few years. Always, catch an Indians games. As a New Yorker, I am amazed by the relatively cheap seats, often with perks thrown in. We once had tickets that included free food a drinks.
   10. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: February 06, 2014 at 12:35 AM (#4652471)
If I were doing a study like this, I'd pick the ticket price for the front row, upper deck seat that is dead even with the base that the home team is on. That's probably a better measure than average price.
   11. Good cripple hitter Posted: February 06, 2014 at 12:46 AM (#4652472)
My guess would still be that Pittsburgh has comparatively few expensive luxury box tickets compared to other stadiums/teams.


I don't think that's it. I don't have time to look at this in any detail, but looking at Pittsburgh's ticket map, you can get seats behind home plate in the 100 level from $41 - $50, depending on if it's a premium game or not. That's $20 cheaper than (for example) Toronto, and almost certainly cheaper than almost any other MLB stadium.
   12. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: February 06, 2014 at 08:01 AM (#4652503)
If I were doing a study like this, I'd pick the ticket price for the front row, upper deck seat that is dead even with the base that the home team is on. That's probably a better measure than average price.

That's definitely a much better measure than the "average" price, whatever that is.

And if you wanted to add an historical note to it, find the inflation-adjusted price for an identical seat in the team's former ballpark(s)**, along with the distance between that seat and home plate. That's where the newer generations of ballparks really fall down in value.

**Information that's relatively easy to come by, at least from the 50's through the 90's. It was especially easy when all upper deck box seats were priced identically, regardless of location.
   13. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: February 06, 2014 at 08:10 AM (#4652505)
I think the brewers do pretty ok

the team is frustrating but entertaining (carlos!, segura), the food/beverages has good variety/ok cost, and there are plenty of ticket promotions
   14. BDC Posted: February 06, 2014 at 10:33 AM (#4652538)
one comparable ticket in YS plus parking

Parking (or other transit) is a factor not much studied in these comparisons. The cheapest upper-deck tickets in Arlington, for instance, are cheaper than parking, and there's no public transit to the Ballpark. So the club or their parking concession erodes some of the value by soaking captive parkers. OTOH, parking is certainly expensive in the Bronx, but even the cheapest game tickets cost way more than a couple of subway rides.

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