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Saturday, September 08, 2012

Blown Call Ends New York’s Rally One Run Short As Baltimore Moves Back Into Tie

Well, it was a bang…....................................................................................................................bang play!

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A late rally by the New York Yankees ended one run short Saturday against the Baltimore Orioles when Mark Teixeira was called out at first base to end the game. The final score ended up 5-4, but replays showed that Teixeira was clearly safe with what would have been a game-tying fielder’s choice.

The loss moved the Orioles back into a tie with the Yankees atop the AL East. Both clubs are 78-61 heading into Sunday and sit two games ahead of the Tampa Bay Rays, who lost to the Texas Rangers on Saturday, 4-2.

Yankees ace CC Sabathia struggled, allowing five runs on eight hits and three home runs in 6 1/3 innings. New York was down 5-2 heading into the eighth, but Alex Rodriguez hit a home run with two outs in the inning and Nick Swisher grounded into a fielder’s choice with the bases loaded in the ninth, scoring Ichiro Suzuki from third.

Repoz Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:42 PM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4230654)
yeast coast bias
   2. Gamingboy Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4230655)
I said on the NTNgod post: He shouldn't have slid. Ump blew the call, but the slide made it more easily blowable.
   3. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4230661)
Tony Tarasco says hi.
   4. Depressoteric Posted: September 08, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4230662)
Yeah, clearly safe.

World's smallest violin currently playing for the Yankees right now. Soloist: Jeffrey Maier.
   5. Repoz Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4230668)
The one play that could end the game...and the Yankees had the best player up to deliver that play.
   6. Depressoteric Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4230671)
BTW, is there something wrong me for viscerally disliking Mark Teixeira? Something about the way he looks just puts me off. I feel like the sheriff in The Big Lebowski: I don't like his jerk-off name, I don't like his jerk-off face, and I don't like him. Jerk-off.

Totally irrational, I know. But the fact that this happened to him makes me even more happy, and I feel somewhat ashamed about that.
   7. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:10 AM (#4230673)
He's very MAD magazine-looking.
   8. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:20 AM (#4230684)
he does carry the look of a very overwound little league meathead.
   9. Morph Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:23 AM (#4230689)
I said on the NTNgod post: He shouldn't have slid. Ump blew the call, but the slide made it more easily blowable


He exacerbated his calf injury on the play and couldn't run through the bag.
   10. tshipman Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:28 AM (#4230692)
It's funny because it happened to the Yankees!
   11. PreservedFish Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:30 AM (#4230695)
Ever since someone on this site pointed out Teixeira's resemblance to Rachel Maddow, it's something that I cannot unsee.
   12. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:32 AM (#4230696)
For me, it was the line (also from here) that he looks like he shaves between at-bats.
   13. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4230699)
Remember when:
When Derek Jeter was called out attempting to steal third base with no one out, he asked third base umpire Marty Foster for a reason.

Jeter thought he was safe. The ball had beaten him there, but he moved his left hand around Scott Rolen’s glove and replays showed he touched the bag before Rolen’s tag.

“He didn’t tag me,” Jeter told Foster.

“He didn’t have to,” Foster said, according to Jeter. “The ball beat you.”

Jeter was incensed. He followed Foster as he walked away to argue. Third base coach Rob Thomson restrained Jeter as Yankees manager Joe Girardi ran toward third looking for an explanation. (“Jete’s not going to argue unless he’s safe,” Girardi said. “That’s the type of player that Derek Jeter is.”)

Hirschbeck spoke to Foster on Tuesday and got a different version. Here’s what Hirschbeck said Foster told Jeter at the time: “The ball beat you, and I had him tagging you.”

“I don’t see a problem with that,” Hirschbeck said. “Sometimes when tempers flare, you don’t hear everything that’s said.”

Yankees manager Joe Girardi joined the argument with Jeter and was ejected. Hirschbeck, however, said Girardi was tossed for complaining about a call Sunday.
   14. Ryan Lind Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:36 AM (#4230701)
He has sort of a babyface that always makes it look like he's whining/pouting/complaining. That's why he's so hateable.
   15. Bruce Markusen Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:57 AM (#4230714)
Did anyone hear about a shouting match taking place between Girardi and a NY Post reporter following the game? Anyone have details?
   16. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:58 AM (#4230715)
Soloist: Jeffrey Maier.
Oh, so this means you don't get to complain about Jeffery Maier anymore? Deal.
   17. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:01 AM (#4230719)
Did anyone hear about a shouting match taking place between Girardi and a NY Post reporter following the game? Anyone have details?


Andrew Marchand ?@AndrewMarchand
Postgame Chaos: Girardi got into it with Joel Sherman of the Post, too. They were separated at one point.

Joel said it is part of the gig. Girardi got annoyed, but called Joel into his office after presser. There it got heated & there was yelling

Security got in the middle of it before anything happened. More on Bronx Zoo later in full column. Oh, and CC says he is healthy.


Girardi was annoyed because Sherman asked about CC's health, which he had already answered 3X in the last 4 minutes. Video of the press conference is below, and Sherman starts lecturing Girardi that it's part of the job. Obviously not a good response from Girardi, but Sherman is a troll...

YES post-game
   18. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:26 AM (#4230748)
(“Jete’s not going to argue unless he’s safe,” Girardi said. “That’s the type of player that Derek Jeter is.”)

But he is the sorta player who fakes being hit by pitches, etc.
   19. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:26 AM (#4230749)
OK, I've resisted replay for years like the Luddite I am ... but there's no excuse in 2012 for badly blown calls deciding games and, possibly, pennant races. There should be a challenge system or an automatic booth review or, well, something. I don't pretend to have the solution, but when a call is obviously wrong and it's easily and instantly confirmed there's absolutely no way it should not be corrected. What a joke.

And, no, I'm not a Yankees fan. If anything, I'd love to see the Orioles beat them.
   20. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:30 AM (#4230752)
Girardi was annoyed because Sherman asked about CC's health, which he had already answered 3X in the last 4 minutes. Video of the press conference is below, and Sherman starts lecturing Girardi that it's part of the job. Obviously not a good response from Girardi, but Sherman is a troll...

I hate to defend Sherman, but it seems like he was simply late to the press conference. IIRC, he prefaced with, "You may have already answered my question."
   21. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:31 AM (#4230753)
He should not have slid, because it makes it more difficult for the umpire to make the call. Not that there's any excuse for the umpire missing it.

And Teixeira looks like Joe DiMaggio.
   22. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:32 AM (#4230754)
Re: teixeira, it's the way he purses his lips at bat.
   23. OPS+ Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:36 AM (#4230758)
http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_12/rachel-maddow-extended-300x250.jpg

Rachel Maddow does appear to be the same person as Mark Teixeira. Have they ever been seen in the same place together?
   24. bobm Posted: September 09, 2012 at 02:07 AM (#4230777)
Reynolds and Hardy homering against the Yankees again.

From BR PI Event Finder and today's boxscore:

Home runs allowed by NYY in 2012

100 Batters
  Mark Reynolds 7 (of 21)
     J.J. Hardy 6 (of 19)
    Mark Trumbo 6 
 Miguel Cabrera 5
    Carlos Pena 4
   Matt Wieters 4 (of 19)
     B.J. Upton 3
     Adam Jones 3 (of 29)
 Justin Morneau 3
    Chris Davis 3
  Josh Hamilton 3
Adrian Gonzalez 3
 Prince Fielder 3 ... 


17 Opp
BAL 30
TBD 17
ANA 16
TOR 14
CHW 13
DET 12
BOS 11
OAK  9
TEX  8
SEA  8



Home runs allowed by BAL in 2012

103 Batters
Curtis Granderson 6 (of 34)
    Josh Hamilton 6
Edwin Encarnacion 5
    Shin-Soo Choo 4
     Billy Butler 4
    Adrian Beltre 4
    Kelly Johnson 3
    Robinson Cano 3 (of 29) 
   Miguel Cabrera 3
      Mark Trumbo 3
 Asdrubal Cabrera 3
      Alex Gordon 3


18 Opp
NYY 22
TOR 17
TEX 16
CLE 13
ANA 12
KCR 12
TBD 10
DET  9
OAK  8
BOS  7


   25. Benji Posted: September 09, 2012 at 02:13 AM (#4230781)
I think Meals has passed Angel Hernandez as the worst umpire in the game now. Every game he does has at least one inexplicable call.
   26. PreservedFish Posted: September 09, 2012 at 03:25 AM (#4230797)
He should not have slid, because it makes it more difficult for the umpire to make the call.


So if you think you're gonna be out, you should slide?
   27. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 05:29 AM (#4230812)
the calls now being missed by the umpires are of the variety where it is so obvious the ump got it wrong one has to suspect that major league baseball is headed for a serious meltdown in a postseason either this year or next. and then it will become a huge deal demanding that selig come out of his self-induced stupor and act

i really do not understand selig's failure to act. he's meddled with everything else in the game. and yet the umpires have been allowed to sink into incompetence with nary a peep out of the commissioner's office.
   28. Greg K Posted: September 09, 2012 at 05:37 AM (#4230813)
There was a funny one in the Dodgers-Giants game yesterday too.

Pagan (I think) was clearly out at first but called safe, then he tried to advance to 3rd on a bunt and was called out (when he looked safe) at 3B.

So it all evens out, problem solved.
   29. Dr. Vaux Posted: September 09, 2012 at 05:45 AM (#4230815)
Was there an announcement several weeks ago that instant replay was being expanded next year?
   30. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:17 AM (#4230818)
If you guys think baseball is in trouble because of the umps, wait until you watch some football this year.
   31. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:18 AM (#4230819)
replay won't be a panacea

and i sense that an umpiring boondoggle of kaiser like proportions will hit soon

it will be ugly. so very ugly

and it could have been prevented
   32. Howie Menckel Posted: September 09, 2012 at 06:46 AM (#4230821)

Sherman had not heard the previous answer (late or in bad spot), so asked himself.
Girardi is wound tight these days, and probably damn nervous about Sabathia.
hijinks ensue.

papers all have different deadlines for various deadlines, so exactly when a game ends can determine who is early and who is late.....
   33. Bruce Markusen Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:20 AM (#4230834)
I used to be down on Sherman, but I think he has evolved into being a very good writer, and one who puts out a lot of material in a given week. If he prefaced his question by saying he was late, then Girardi should not have gotten as upset as he did.
   34. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: September 09, 2012 at 10:38 AM (#4230856)
Pagan (I think) was clearly out at first but called safe, then he tried to advance to 3rd on a bunt and was called out (when he looked safe) at 3B.


Blanco. The missed call a first was horsebleep, the one at third was pretty close. The worst part was, I couldn't find the remote to turn off McCarver's blathering about it for, like, 10 minutes.
   35. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:06 AM (#4230873)
Teixeira deserved to be called out for sliding into first base, even if he was hurt. Such a jackass play.

I think Meals has passed Angel Hernandez as the worst umpire in the game now. Every game he does has at least one inexplicable call.


Remember when he deliberately ###### the Pirates on a call at home in that 19-inning game because he was tired and wanted to go to bed, and then everybody said, "No, he wouldn't do that, it's just a rare mistake by a good umpire!"

Yeah.
   36. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:15 AM (#4230879)
the calls now being missed by the umpires are of the variety where it is so obvious the ump got it wrong one has to suspect that major league baseball is headed for a serious meltdown in a postseason either this year or next.

If the meltdown didn't happen after Maier, or after Denkinger, or Knoblauch's phantom tag, what makes the next umpire mistake the one that makes everyone go crazy?
   37. Rough Carrigan Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:29 AM (#4230886)
I wouldn't have mentioned this except that #36 mentioned Denkinger but nobody remembers that he was the ump behind the plate for the 1978 playoff game between the Red Sox and yankees. Those two teams were wound tight and would have exploded at any screwups and I don't think anyone complained about Denkinger's work the entire game which is the ultimate compliment.
   38. tfbg9 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4230894)
#7-agree totally. But can't decide if he's drawn by Davis or Drucker.
   39. pkb33 Posted: September 09, 2012 at 11:57 AM (#4230919)
If the meltdown didn't happen after Maier, or after Denkinger, or Knoblauch's phantom tag, what makes the next umpire mistake the one that makes everyone go crazy?

The Yankees being harmed by it, instead of benefitting from it, will impact the view of some and of the NY media, for sure
   40. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4230933)
Remember when he deliberately ###### the Pirates on a call at home in that 19-inning game because he was tired and wanted to go to bed, and then everybody said, "No, he wouldn't do that, it's just a rare mistake by a good umpire!"

Yeah.

Yeah, Meals is not a good umpire but it's just plain wrong to attack his character because of those two plays.

EDIT: It was pointed out in the AL playoff thread that Meals could have ended the game one play before Teixeira's fateful PA had he called out Swisher.
   41. cardsfanboy Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4230952)
This is the type of play that I think Replay was designed for. I do not get the leagues fascination with extending replay to whether a trapped ball was caught or not, when it comes to eliminating the most common and easiest play to fix, force outs is where the next round of replay introduction should be (and again as always, do not allow it to become an appeal play, call it from a replay booth, with no requests by the umpires or players being any part of the replay)
   42. Chris Fluit Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:33 PM (#4230953)
Not quite. If Swisher had been called out, that would have been the second out of the inning. The Orioles would have still had to get Teixeira out but they wouldn't have needed to go to second for the double play to do it.
   43. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:51 PM (#4230978)
Not quite. If Swisher had been called out, that would have been the second out of the inning. The Orioles would have still had to get Teixeira out but they wouldn't have needed to go to second for the double play to do it.

My bad. Thanks. Still, the larger point remains.
   44. haggard Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:53 PM (#4230981)
The Rays game ended, as many games do, on a terrible called third strike. I think more games are ruined by expanded ninth inning strike zones than by blown calls on the bases.
   45. Gotham Dave Posted: September 09, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4230987)
More than it was infuriating, the call was just baffling. I have to assume it was a reverse Jim Joyce, and by the time the ump realized that lead-footed Tex was somehow safe his arm was already making the motion.

As for Jeffery Maier, MLB teams are scouting kids born in 1996. Sixteen ####### years. And you certainly can't blame him for over a decade of awful baseball in Baltimore.
   46. Ryan Lind Posted: September 09, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4231014)
The problem with that is that Swisher was safe.

When I watched the play in real time, I thought that somehow Tex had maybe vaulted over the bag, and was called out because his hands missed it and his legs weren't there et. That was the only explanation I could come up with for how he could possibly be out. That's how crappy the call was.

(and again as always, do not allow it to become an appeal play, call it from a replay booth, with no requests by the umpires or players being any part of the replay)


I agree. Seriously, you set someone upstairs up with a flippin' monitor and phone. If he wants to review the play he sends a message down to the field saying he's reviewing the play. If he can't come up with a decision after, say, 90 seconds, it's inconclusive and the ruling on the field stands. This would fix like 80% of problems and hardly ever introduce a noticeable delay (90 seconds is less time than it takes for the fatass manager to waddle out from the dugout to argue the play with the umpire.)
   47. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 09, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4231209)
The Yankees being harmed by it, instead of benefitting from it, will impact the view of some and of the NY media, for sure


Right, because this was the first time in history that a bad call has gone against the Yankees.
   48. Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: September 09, 2012 at 10:18 PM (#4231261)
The Rays game ended, as many games do, on a terrible called third strike. I think more games are ruined by expanded ninth inning strike zones than by blown calls on the bases.

A-triple-men to that, and that thought applies to the first eight innings as well.
   49. Big fan Posted: September 10, 2012 at 05:13 PM (#4231958)
Replay was not even a thought back in the 80s (Denkinger) and even the 90s (Jeter/Maeir)...but now that the NFL has done it for years and we can easily think of ways to make it work even better in baseball, at some point the MLB simply HAS to introduce it. Unless they are waiting for a full blown explosion of a Game 7 two out in the 9th inning blown call. We've already had the full gamut of blown calls (perfect game with two outs in the 9th! in addtion to the playoff games and WS games (while Denkinger made a bad call, it does not excuse the Cards from then droppping a foul pop up and giving up a few more hits to lose and then losing Game 7 as well).

If there is anything that can drive me away from this great game it would be some more game-changing and season-changing horrible calls. And I can't be the only guy who feels this way.
   50. Ray (RDP) Posted: September 10, 2012 at 05:31 PM (#4231973)
Is there video or audio of the Sherman dustup?

(Sherman is one of the better mainstream writers, FWIW. Not that I really read them much, but when I do I find that he's several cuts above a Dan Shaughnessy or Lupica type. He actually understands player analysis to a degree.)

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