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Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Blue Jays option struggling Rickey Romero to single-A Dunedin.

The Toronto Blue Jays announced that the left-hander has been optioned to single-A Dunedin of the Florida State League.

The move came shortly after Romero picked up the win in Toronto’s 6-3 victory over Pittsburgh. It was considered a make-or-break start for Romero, who had a decent outing but didn’t do enough to make up for his spring struggles.

Is he going to get the Halladay treatment while he’s down there?  Any chance that pitching instructor is still around?

Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 26, 2013 at 08:04 PM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Matthew E Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM (#4397249)
No, that pitching instructor was Mel Queen, who sadly has rung up the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
   2. Lassus Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM (#4397255)
If only this minor-league team was actually in New Zealand.
   3. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM (#4397258)
Romero lost his rotation spot to J.A. Happ.

That has to be so depressing for the guy.
   4. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM (#4397271)
Obviously the results haven't been there and I see it, but it's not like I'm not working. Sometimes I overwork on stuff and try to see the results so quick.


This is what frustrates me about spring training for pitchers. You're supposed to develop your pitches, then this happens when you're not successful fast enough.
   5. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM (#4397297)
I was ready to criticize the move as being reliant on spring training stats, but his K/BB ratio took a major step backwards last year, so absent no evidence that this has improved -- and there isn't any although, come on, it's 9 spring innings -- I think the move is justifiable. In fact, I think it was justifiable to start him in the minors regardless. If you can't control the strike zone, you will get lit up.
   6. Boileryard Posted: March 26, 2013 at 11:40 PM (#4397311)
The full text of Anthopoulos's media scrum is a bit more detailed. According to Anthopoulos, this situation is very similar to what happened in the spring of 2009 -- Romero had a mechanical issue that was preventing him from being an effective pitcher. Back then they were able to fix it by the end of spring training, but this time around they weren't so lucky. It definitely isn't a reactionary move based on a small sample of spring stats. The Blue Jays see something with Romero's delivery that isn't right, and they're making use of his remaining option to buy more time for correcting it.
   7. John Northey Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM (#4397341)
I think the killer was his last start before this one - against Pirates minor leaguers he was wild and hit hard when he did get it into the zone (or close to it). If he showed major improvement then he might have survived but 3 walks vs 2 strikeouts and not getting a full 5 innings in made it impossible to keep him in the majors.
   8. Brian White Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM (#4397349)
Man, Romero's fall from "guy putting up pretty good ERAs in the majors" to "guy scuffling and putting up a 1:1 K:BB ratio" to "guy without a major league job" happened pretty fast. Not as amazingly fast as, say, Jair Jurrjens. But still fast.
   9. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:28 AM (#4397374)
Man, Romero's fall from "guy putting up pretty good ERAs in the majors" to "guy scuffling and putting up a 1:1 K:BB ratio" to "guy without a major league job" happened pretty fast. Not as amazingly fast as, say, Jair Jurrjens. But still fast.


It was almost exactly a year ago that I picked him to win the Cy Young in 2012.
In 2011, he had a 146 ERA+, 1.14 WHIP, >2 K/BB ratio, 10th place in Cy Young voting...It was the second year in a row his ERA had gone down, and his innings hadn't made a big jump (+15 innings over 2010), he was entering his age 27 season...

Everything suggested a big season from him, and I took it another step forward and thought he'd have an amazing season.

Oops.
   10. Drexl Spivey Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM (#4397384)
Still...getting demoted for J.A. Happ? That guy has zero upside.
   11. Boileryard Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:43 AM (#4397393)
At this point the Blue Jays are just looking for a competent fifth starter. Happ should be able to fill that role.
   12. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 27, 2013 at 12:44 AM (#4397395)
The Blue Jays are trying to win the AL East, they can't give chances to someone who looks like Daniel Cabrera out there. If this season's goal was 78 wins like the last few Toronto seasons, maybe they would keep giving Romero chances to figure it out in the majors.
   13. Greg K Posted: March 27, 2013 at 05:10 AM (#4397424)
Man, Romero's fall from "guy putting up pretty good ERAs in the majors" to "guy scuffling and putting up a 1:1 K:BB ratio" to "guy without a major league job" happened pretty fast. Not as amazingly fast as, say, Jair Jurrjens. But still fast.

The funny thing is before he reached the majors he looked for all the world like a major bust. First-round pick and his minor league career was one failure after another. He was given a spot in the rotation without any real sign that he would succeed...and then almost immediately turned into a good pitcher.

I tend to think the Jays entered Spring Training thinking, "ok, last year was a total disaster for Romero. We can't afford to have that happen in a year we expect to contend. Unless he magically turns back into the pitcher he was, he's going to have to sort this out in the minors".
   14. Rants Mulliniks Posted: March 27, 2013 at 07:41 AM (#4397435)
It was almost exactly a year ago that I picked him to win the Cy Young in 2012.


He had a .245 BABIP in 2011 so I didn't think he'd sustain that 2.92 ERA, but I certainly expected him to be at least league average. This is a big blow for the Jays. A pedestrian season from Ricky (200 IP, 3.80 ERA) would have probably given them 3-4 wins over what Happ will provide. That's huge in this division.
   15. Bug Selig Posted: March 27, 2013 at 08:54 AM (#4397452)
This is what frustrates me about spring training for pitchers. You're supposed to develop your pitches, then this happens when you're not successful fast enough.


I also can't stand it when teams pretend a month of scrimmages is important, but in this case, his 2012 performance points in the same direction. He hasn't gotten it done in a long time.
   16. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: March 27, 2013 at 09:50 AM (#4397491)
The Blue Jays are trying to win the AL East, they can't give chances to someone who looks like Daniel Cabrera out there. If this season's goal was 78 wins like the last few Toronto seasons, maybe they would keep giving Romero chances to figure it out in the majors.


So the Jays' rotation is:
Dickey
Buerhle
Johnsonifhestayshealthy
Morrow
Happ


That looks a lot better than last year. A few years ago I was bullish on the Jays young flight of pitchers (Brett Cecil, Kyle Drabek, Romero, Brandon Morrow). They've all shown flashes, but I don't know that you can truly rely on any of them.
   17. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: March 27, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4397494)
Guys, Romero really has been that bad. No command for the second half of 2012 and with that came no confidence in any of his stuff. So he puts runners on with walks and then the only strikes are hittable ones, and boy did he get hit. It was impossible to watch.

Kudos to him for sticking it out during that tough year where it seemed everybody was going down. I heard he was apparently suffering from arm trouble as well. But boy, he really should have been shut down.

This team has a very short window to contend and can't take on any risks. This is a smart move by the Jays, even if it means we have to watch boring Happ get lit up by the AL East for a bit. Romero needs the breather and pitching in Dunedin is basically extended ST for him to keep working on what he's been working on all month.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: March 27, 2013 at 04:55 PM (#4397900)
A pedestrian season from Ricky (200 IP, 3.80 ERA) would have probably given them 3-4 wins over what Happ will provide

Now wait a second. That "pedestrian" line you propose would have been a 112 ERA+ last year and only 12 AL starters reached 200 IP last year. I don't think anybody was really expecting that out of Romero after last year's disaster.
   19. Brian Posted: March 27, 2013 at 05:55 PM (#4397945)
So there is no chance Happ is decent this year? He improved his K/9 and K/BB rates significantly last season and is just 30 years old, an age where many lefties have blossomed late. Not saying he'll be great but the assumption here that he'll suck is a guarantee.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 27, 2013 at 06:00 PM (#4397949)
So there is no chance Happ is decent this year? He improved his K/9 and K/BB rates significantly last season and is just 30 years old, an age where many lefties have blossomed late. Not saying he'll be great but the assumption here that he'll suck is a guarantee.

The Oliver proj. system has him posting a 3.92 ERA in 150 IP. ZiPs hates him.

The guy K'd 9/G last year. He's got a chance.
   21. Brian Posted: March 27, 2013 at 08:23 PM (#4398022)
Thanks Snapper. It just seems like people are just writing him off. He deserves a shot to see if the improvement last year was real. Not much difference between their career stats so far.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 27, 2013 at 08:51 PM (#4398030)
Thanks Snapper. It just seems like people are just writing him off. He deserves a shot to see if the improvement last year was real. Not much difference between their career stats so far.

The Jays clearly like him, they just extended him for 2014.

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