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Thursday, September 20, 2012

Blue Jays president Paul Beeston: ‘I’m actually pissed off’

Hematuria running wild!

“I’ve never experienced a year like this one, where so many things have gone wrong. You go back to the beginning of the year, even into the season, attendance was coming back, our TV numbers were great, there was a good buzz about the team. But once the team started to go south, it just seemed to be one thing after the other. And it never stopped.

“It’s the one thing that keeps me up at night. When you build something and you don’t deliver, there is a feeling of emptiness. It’s felt by fans and players and by the front office as well. We all want to win. We have to learn from it. The hard thing is, it was almost like interest was spiking up instead of drifting up, and we were going on this 90-degree angle, a huge spike of interest, and then all this…

“I don’t believe you make excuses. We have to deliver. You can’t lose the pitchers we lost. You can’t lose the position players we lost. That said, no one cares about excuses, no one wants to hear that. They care about results. And believe me, our expectations were high when this season began.”

ON THE MATTER THAT BALTIMORE AND OAKLAND, PERENNIAL DOORMATS, MAY GO TO THE PLAYOFFS

“I’m actually pissed off about it. And the reason being: Can you tell me who the favourite is in the American League? There isn’t one. I was talking to (White Sox owner) Jerry Reinsdorf about this today. There’s no one team to beat. Everybody’s got a shot. Getting into the playoffs gives you a chance to win. A lot of teams can with the World Series, starting with the play-in game. I’m more pissed off because that could have been us.”

Repoz Posted: September 20, 2012 at 05:26 AM | 24 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. flournoy Posted: September 20, 2012 at 08:46 AM (#4240864)
I don't think Oakland counts as a perennial doormat.
   2. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: September 20, 2012 at 08:50 AM (#4240866)
Maybe he meant since 2007
   3. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 20, 2012 at 09:25 AM (#4240892)
This season has indeed been a piss off for most Jays fans. The injuries are one thing, but when your ace turns into a steaming pile of dogshit and puts up the worst ERA in MLB, your "future star" CF pukes out a .520 OPS in the second half (Rasmus now has four seasons of 500+ PAs, and has complied an OPS+ higher than 89 in just one of them), your 29-year old SS sees his walk rate cut almost in half as his average and power numbers also drop, and your 2B and 3B both forget how to hit for power, it makes for a really boring team. I've watched more non-Jays games than Jays games in the last two months.
   4. Matthew E Posted: September 20, 2012 at 09:47 AM (#4240913)
There are some things the Jays could have done to ameliorate the situation. Some of the decisions made at the start of the season turned out to be bad decisions: going with a long bullpen forced them to go with a short bench that couldn't hit, for one thing. Gambling that Cordero and Vizquel still had something left in the tank. Going with so many young and unproven starting pitchers. None of those sunk the season by themselves, but combined with the injuries and the off-years, it led to the situation we have now, which is a team that isn't fielding anywhere close to a major-league roster.
   5. Paul D(uda) Posted: September 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM (#4241044)
Him and Greg Zaun both.
   6. Swedish Chef Posted: September 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM (#4241084)
The baseball gods are punishing them for the crime of trading for Jeff Mathis, later exacerbated by giving him a multi-year contract.
   7. Hit by Pitch Posted: September 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4241123)
Without the injuries the jays are an average 500 team. That's what you get if you have an average 80m payroll.
   8. Gamingboy Posted: September 20, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4241132)
On the bright side for the City of Toronto, the Maple Leafs won't be losing many games this coming season. They won't be winning many either.
   9. Dangerous Dean Posted: September 20, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4241356)
Can you tell me who the favourite is in the American League? There isn’t one... There’s no one team to beat.


The two-time defending AL champs...who happen to have the best record in the AL glare menacingly from the top of the standings.
   10. micker17 Posted: September 20, 2012 at 03:22 PM (#4241371)
Perhaps Batista and Encarnacion should share their "vitamins" with the other 23 guys.
   11. RJ in TO Posted: September 20, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4241375)
This really has been a complete shitbag of a season.
   12. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: September 20, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4241379)
Can you tell me who the favourite is in the American League


If you have to whine like a little girl, Canuck, at least learn how to spell.

   13. Matthew E Posted: September 20, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4241391)
The thing I want to know is, how much of a setback is this season, and how much just gets erased on Opening Day 2013?

The way I figure it, the Jays lost:
- a year or so of Drew Hutchison
- Romero may not be able to bounce back
- Colby Rasmus may not be able to bounce back
- Yunel Escobar may not be able to bounce back
- they might have solved their 2B or LF problems this year, but didn't
- no hope left for Lind or Snider

I'm okay with a 2013 roster that includes D'Arnaud, Arencibia, Encarnacion, Lawrie, Bautista, Morrow, and the current bullpen with Santos. I think it's reasonable to include Romero, Rasmus, and Escobar in there and hope for the best from them. But if there are plausible internal candidates for 1B, 2B, LF, SP3, SP4, and SP5, I have not learned their names.
   14. John Northey Posted: September 20, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4241454)
Well, 2B would be Adeiny Hechavarria who now has a 78 OPS+ but in September has hit 324/378/500 (just 38 PA though). Watching games he looked hopeless in August but something clicked and suddenly he figured out which end of the bat to use. Looking at game logs you can see...
First 12 games: 37 PA, 156/200/219
Since (18 games): 61 PA 304/339/464 - hits in 15 of the 17 games he had a plate appearance in.

Anthony Gose, the other hot prospect, has hit for just a 60 OPS+ split into two parts...
First callup: 183/256/244 over 92 PA
September callup: 278/350/444 40 PA

The batting coach from AAA, who is now in Toronto, was saying that kids need to come up and fail before they listen and one wonders if he was talking about these two. One hopes as that could indicate more than a small sample size illusion. If so we would have a nice LF and 2B - both super defensively and if they can hit 1/2 decent we'd have a woohoo situation.

   15. ??'s Biggest Fan! Posted: September 20, 2012 at 04:53 PM (#4241478)
I wonder if we are entering a period where player/personnel decisions are now being divorced from actual results on the field. For the entire offseason, I've read a lot bouquets being tossed at the feet of Alex Anthopoulos for some of the transactions he's made this past offseason, but their season hasn't turned out as most people in the media had predicted. I can't actually make an informed statement on Anthopoulos' job performance, but I do find myself judging the front office of my favorite team not entirely on the win-loss record, but on how sound and smart were the reasons behind the decisions in roster construction.
   16. DKDC Posted: September 20, 2012 at 09:11 PM (#4241667)
Just forfeit the rest of your games if you aren't going to make any effort.
   17. Matthew E Posted: September 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM (#4241747)
I do not yet believe in either Hechavarria or Gose. I'd like to see both of 'em play a full season in Buffalo before counting on them for anything in the majors.

As for Anthopoulos, I like him and think he's done a very good job overall. Still, he bears some responsibility for this season's excrapaganza.

Oh, and I left J.A. Happ out of my list in 13. I'm okay with Happ as a like a fifth starter or something.
   18. Shock Posted: September 21, 2012 at 02:47 AM (#4241799)
But if there are plausible internal candidates for 1B, 2B, LF, SP3, SP4, and SP5, I have not learned their names.


Well, just to rub salt in the ####### wound...

Aaron Hill is having a great year in Arizona, hitting .298/.358/.504. His OPS+ (125) is a career high, yes better than the season he hit 36 bombs. Meanwhile, of course Kelly Johnson is having the worst year of his career.

Oh and, hey, Alex Rios (remember him?) is hitting .301/.333/.521, for the ChiSox, cause I mean what the #### right? You remember that scene in The Wire, when Rawls puts up his two middle fingers and says "These are for you, McNulty." That is the gift the Jays have received this year.

Speaking of Baltimore, who wants to bet that Ricky Romero is challenging Bob Gibson's 1.12 while pitching as an Oriole in some alternate universe right now, rather than challenging Jose Lima's 6.99 while pitching for the Jays in this one?
   19. Matthew E Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:14 AM (#4241875)
Well, just to rub salt in the ####### wound...

Aaron Hill is having a great year in Arizona, hitting .298/.358/.504. His OPS+ (125) is a career high, yes better than the season he hit 36 bombs. Meanwhile, of course Kelly Johnson is having the worst year of his career.

Oh and, hey, Alex Rios (remember him?) is hitting .301/.333/.521, for the ChiSox, cause I mean what the #### right? You remember that scene in The Wire, when Rawls puts up his two middle fingers and says "These are for you, McNulty." That is the gift the Jays have received this year.


Oh, I know.

I comfort myself... well, mitigate some of the discomfort, anyway... with the certain knowledge that neither Hill nor Rios would be doing those things if they were still here.
   20. ...and Toronto selects: Troy Tulowitzki Posted: September 21, 2012 at 09:55 AM (#4241917)

But if there are plausible internal candidates for 1B, 2B, LF, SP3, SP4, and SP5, I have not learned their names.

Absolutely.

...with the certain knowledge that neither Hill nor Rios would be doing those things if they were still here.

Exactly. They likely don't repeat what they're doing this year, next year either given how all over the place they've been the last five years.
   21. zack Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM (#4241949)
I do not yet believe in either Hechavarria or Gose. I'd like to see both of 'em play a full season in Buffalo before counting on them for anything in the majors.


God dammit, how did the Mets #### up bad enough to end up with friggin' Las Vegas?! Son of a #####.
   22. RJ in TO Posted: September 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM (#4241961)
God dammit, how did the Mets #### up bad enough to end up with friggin' Las Vegas?! Son of a #####.


They're the Mets. ####### up is what they do.
   23. guelphdad Posted: September 21, 2012 at 01:49 PM (#4242199)
God dammit, how did the Mets #### up bad enough to end up with friggin' Las Vegas?! Son of a #####.

They probably had a 10 game lead over the Jays with 11 to play and choked it away. It will be nice to pop over the border to see the Bisons play. Alas the Sabres won't be doing anything this year.
   24. Rants Mulliniks Posted: September 21, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4242253)
The Jays pitching should at least be average next year, but I can't see their offense being that good. Unless they make a major splash in the FA market, they'll do well to win 80 games, and that's assuming they aren't cursed by injuries again. As it stands right now, the only positions that they can hope to get a OPS+ of 100 out of are C, 3b, RF and wherever EE plays.

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