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Monday, January 29, 2018

Blue Jays’ prospects could eventually be cure to backup catcher hole - Sportsnet.ca

Sorry, Martin was no prize either. His numbers only look acceptable if you accept today’s dearth of good catchers as the new norm.

Martin hit .221/.343/.388 with 13 home runs last year—respectable numbers in line with the MLB averages for the position. And while 91 games represented a dropoff in playing time for Martin, only one catcher older than him appeared in more games: Yadier Molina.

The problem wasn’t Martin, it was his backups. Raffy Lopez, Mike Ohlman, Miguel Montero, Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Luke Maile combined to bat 324 times over 103 games last year. They hit eight home runs with a .155/.217/.267 slash line. Six pitchers had a better OPS than the group’s .484 mark.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 29, 2018 at 04:57 PM | 10 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Paul D(uda) Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:57 PM (#5615405)
Sorry, Martin was no prize either. His numbers only look acceptable if you accept today’s dearth of good catchers as the new norm.

Meh, he was worth 1.5 WAR, I'll take it.
   2. Walt Davis Posted: January 29, 2018 at 08:43 PM (#5615423)
And while 91 games represented a dropoff in playing time for Martin, only one catcher older than him appeared in more games: Yadier Molina.

Talk about cherry-picking. Only one DH older than Victor Martinez had more PAs. What more could you ask?

His numbers only look acceptable if you accept today’s dearth of good catchers as the new norm.

Sounds like somebody hasn't adjusted to the current offensive era. :-) Those numbers were still a 92 OPS+. Since when is a 92 OPS+ not acceptable for a starting C? That was a 343 OBP compared with a league average 331.

It might be a harbinger of doom (it took a career-high walk rate to save that BA, often a sign of the final bounce) ... but Russell hit like this from ages 26-29 too. In raw terms and OPS+ terms, this was as good or a bit better than his age-29 211/311/403 for the Yanks ... or age-27 248/347/332 for the Dodgers. In those years you'd have seen me writing stuff about his borderline acceptability and upcoming horrible 30s. I'm pretty sure I made great fun of the Jays' 5/$82 contract for him but here we are and he's given them 6.5 WAR -- far from excellent but far from a disaster.
   3. stevegamer Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:58 PM (#5615537)
Don't we have to accept today's dearth of catchers as today's norm? Maybe it won't be that way in a few years, but right now, it's the reality.
   4. Random Transaction Generator Posted: January 30, 2018 at 12:29 AM (#5615544)
Raffy Lopez, Mike Ohlman, Miguel Montero, Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Luke Maile

Luke Maile batted .146/.176/.231

One of the craziest moments in the Blue Jays season was when Maile then Marcus Stroman went deep in back-to-back at-bats on May 18. That was the first time American League battery mates had gone deep in consecutive plate appearances in 47 years.

The second craziest moment was Luke Maile getting a 9th inning, 1-out game-tying run-scoring single off Zach Britton.

Other than that, the backup catcher corp for the Jays was a nightmare from start to finish.



   5. Omineca Greg Posted: January 30, 2018 at 01:24 AM (#5615552)
What's wrong with the Blue Jay catcher's backup hole?

I'm glad it's curable though, even if it is "eventually".

Good thing it's not Russell's primary hole that's the trouble. All that squatting, it would be awful.
   6. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: January 30, 2018 at 02:15 AM (#5615558)
Must not be much of a prospect list if your prospect's role is slotted for "backup catcher."
   7. Paul D(uda) Posted: January 30, 2018 at 06:17 AM (#5615567)
Must not be much of a prospect list if your prospect's role is slotted for "backup catcher."

He's not their top prospect (That's Guerrero Jr, who's one of the top 3 prospects in all MLB, and Bichette is top 10). I don't htink that's the long-term prognosis for Janssen, just short term.
   8. Rally Posted: January 30, 2018 at 09:37 AM (#5615648)
The second craziest moment was Luke Maile getting a 9th inning, 1-out game-tying run-scoring single off Zach Britton.


I would nominate this game for the #1 spot. Marcus Stroman pinch hits in the 11th inning, lines a double into the LF corner, and comes around to score the winning run.

That was Stroman's first MLB hit, and the fore mentioned homerun was his second.
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: January 30, 2018 at 10:04 AM (#5615666)
This headline cracks me up. Have patience Blue Jays fans - some day off in the future you could have a homegrown backup catcher!
   10. formerly dp Posted: January 30, 2018 at 10:58 AM (#5615732)
BITD the Jays' system could crank out mediocre backup catchers every year...but that was about all the system cranked out, unfortunately...

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