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Thursday, January 02, 2014

Bobby V: Tanaka Should Pitch In The National League, Avoid The Bronx

“He pitches like Jose Fernandez,” Valentine told the New York Post on Friday. “I think (Tanaka) has similar stuff and similar competitiveness. He is battle-proven, and there is nothing you wouldn’t like about him. He would be a credit to anybody’s staff.”

Fernandez, of course, won the National League Rookie of the Year Award this past season, pitching to a 2.19 ERA for the lowly Marlins.

Tanaka was brilliant for the Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, going 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA.

The Yankees, who desperately need starting pitching, are reportedly interested in signing the phenom. The Dodgers, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Red Sox and Rangers have also been linked to the right-hander, according to the newspaper.

Tanaka is expected to receive a contract worth more than $100 million.

Valentine, who managed in Queens from 1996-2002, is of the opinion that Tanaka would be better suited pitching in the National League than he would be in the Bronx.

“If I was him, I would pitch in the National League,” Valentine told the New York Post. “I would pitch on the West Coast and I would pitch where the weather isn’t going to be a factor.”

Thanks to Eddie.

Repoz Posted: January 02, 2014 at 05:26 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: January 02, 2014 at 05:38 PM (#4628604)
Tanaka was brilliant for the Rakuten Golden Eagles last season, going 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA.

To echo the familiar Bill James anecdote about Dick Stuart: I'd like Tanaka's chances a lot more if he'd gone 18-6 with a 2.40 ERA instead.
   2. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 02, 2014 at 05:42 PM (#4628606)
Tanaka must be the kind of guy who would help his fellow man in times of crisis.
   3. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:06 PM (#4628626)
Tanaka should take Bobby V's advice. The man is a major genius.
   4. Bruce Markusen Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:23 PM (#4628640)
The headline is deceiving. In the quote, Valentine doesn't say anything about avoiding the Bronx. He's simply advising him to pitch in the NL, and not with ANY American League teams.
   5. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:40 PM (#4628660)
Valentine should have followed his own advice.

W-L% AL - .485
W-L% NL - .534 - 1 Pennant
   6. God Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:43 PM (#4628663)
“If I was him, I would pitch in the National League,” Valentine told the New York Post. “I would pitch on the West Coast and I would pitch where the weather isn’t going to be a factor.”


Why didn't he just come out and say Tanaka should pitch for the Dodgers?

Anyway, is there any longer a reason to give Valentine's opinion on Japanese players a lot of weight? Hasn't he been gone from Japan since before Tanaka's career started? Is there any reason to think he knows more than anyone else about Tanaka at this point?
   7. JJ1986 Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:50 PM (#4628670)
Anyway, is there any longer a reason to give Valentine's opinion on Japanese players a lot of weight? Hasn't he been gone from Japan since before Tanaka's career started? Is there any reason to think he knows more than anyone else about Tanaka at this point?


Valentine knows that Tanaka is the best left-handed pitcher to ever come out of Japan.
   8. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:50 PM (#4628671)
Anyway, is there any longer a reason to give Valentine's opinion on Japanese players a lot of weight? Hasn't he been gone from Japan since before Tanaka's career started? Is there any reason to think he knows more than anyone else about Tanaka at this point?


Valentine managed against Tanaka for three years, but I agree that there's no reason to listen to Bobby Valentine's opinion.
   9. Rickey! is just here so he don't get fined Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4628672)
Why didn't he just come out and say Tanaka should pitch for the Dodgers?


Arizona equally fulfills Valentine's suggested rules.
   10. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:58 PM (#4628678)
As a Red Sox fan I am glad that Bobby V. has not suggested he go to Boston, because whatever he suggests, the player should do the opposite. Boston still in with a chance. Seriously though, I still don't see Boston as a key player unless they have no intention of resigning Lester.
   11. ptodd Posted: January 02, 2014 at 06:59 PM (#4628681)
Thats good advice by Bobby V and it really applies to any pitcher. However, Tanaka is supposed to be a GB pitcher so perhaps the Bronx won't hurt him much. However, coming from a park that suppresses HR in a league where HR were suppressed even more the past 3 years due to a dead ball, it should be interesting for him if he goes to NY.

AL West is another option, especially Seattle or LA with their pitcher friendly parks. Tanaka would be insane to go to the AL East unless some team blows him away. I suspect most of these guys have quite a following in Japan and lots of endorsement opportunities there if they do well in the MLB. Getting knocked around like Daisuke did is not good. Daisuke of course had no choice. Tanaka does.
   12. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: January 02, 2014 at 07:09 PM (#4628688)
What was Tanaka's involvement in 9/11 relief efforts?
   13. Dan Evensen Posted: January 02, 2014 at 07:21 PM (#4628698)
Am I the first person on this website to realize that Tanaka went 24-0 last season? I mean, I know that W-L records aren't supposed to be impressive to the Sabermetrically Enlightened, but, geez, that's impressive. Makes me want to replay the 2013 Golden Eagles through DMB (though I don't think anybody's up for making an NPB homebrew disk).

Maybe I will plan on ordering Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2014 after all.
   14. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: January 02, 2014 at 07:42 PM (#4628728)
To echo the familiar Bill James anecdote about Dick Stuart: I'd like Tanaka's chances a lot more if he'd gone 18-6 with a 2.40 ERA instead.

I don't get this.
   15. GregD Posted: January 02, 2014 at 07:46 PM (#4628735)
James wrote that baseball people discounted Dick Stuart's 66 (is that right?) HRs in the minors because they couldn't comprehend it. so they'd rave about guys who hit 35 or 40 but then get to Stuart and launch into explanations of why it wasn't that impressive.

20-4 sounds awesome. 24-0 sounds like something is off. Even though in reality it is more impressive.
   16. Jay Seaver Posted: January 02, 2014 at 08:05 PM (#4628754)
Anyway, is there any longer a reason to give Valentine's opinion on Japanese players a lot of weight? Hasn't he been gone from Japan since before Tanaka's career started? Is there any reason to think he knows more than anyone else about Tanaka at this point?


I wouldn't be surprised if Bobby Valentine still followed NPB more closely than roughly 98% of the American baseball writers who have written something about Tanaka over the past six months and still had contacts over there. Of course, that may not be worth much, considering just how completely his ability to communicate with people or apply what he knows to actual baseball seems to have vanished.
   17. God Posted: January 02, 2014 at 08:33 PM (#4628773)
Arizona equally fulfills Valentine's suggested rules.


Sounds like someone has been taking this old George Strait song a little too literally.
   18. TerpNats Posted: January 02, 2014 at 09:55 PM (#4628829)
I'd still like the Nats to go for the jugular, with the Redskins in disarray, and sign Tanaka to become top dog in town. He'd serve as insurance in case Rizzo and the Lerners can't get an extension with one of the other starters, and he'd certainly be the most overpowering fifth starter in MLB.

Then again, it isn't my money.
   19. akrasian Posted: January 03, 2014 at 12:03 AM (#4628904)
Arizona equally fulfills Valentine's suggested rules.

Unless you have any knowledge of geography.
   20. Flynn Posted: January 03, 2014 at 12:46 AM (#4628927)
James wrote that baseball people discounted Dick Stuart's 66 (is that right?) HRs in the minors because they couldn't comprehend it. so they'd rave about guys who hit 35 or 40 but then get to Stuart and launch into explanations of why it wasn't that impressive.

20-4 sounds awesome. 24-0 sounds like something is off. Even though in reality it is more impressive.


I've already heard people claiming nobody should get too excited, he doesn't have Darvish's stuff, he'll be a number three in America. That could be all completely true, but that unimpressive stuff might be Madduxian instead.
   21. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: January 03, 2014 at 01:18 AM (#4628932)
Am I the first person on this website to realize that Tanaka went 24-0 last season?

I am pretty sure you are the last person.
   22. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: January 03, 2014 at 12:09 PM (#4629124)
I've already heard people claiming nobody should get too excited, he doesn't have Darvish's stuff, he'll be a number three in America. That could be all completely true, but that unimpressive stuff might be Madduxian instead.


What I've heard is that he'll be a #1, but a second-tier #1. Darvish is "Cy Young contender every year" kind of #1. Tanaka is a "Probable All-Star most years" kind of #1.
   23. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 03, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4629155)
Bobby V should shut the #### up. Look I can give advice too!

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