Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Sunday, March 18, 2012

Boston Herald: Scouts see pluses for new-look Sox

Older scout: The summer that had begun so long ago had ended, and another summer had taken its place, and Daniel Bard had come out.

Other Red Sox observations, both good and bad, from various scouts:

•   On Cody Ross: “With him, (Ryan) Sweeney and (Jarrod) Saltalamacchia at the bottom of the lineup, that reminds (me) of their lineup in 2004, when they had (Trot) Nixon, Bill Mueller and (Jason) Varitek. Those bottom three can be really good because once pitchers get through the first six, they may think they have it easy. And Ross looks like a great pickup. There’s no pressure on him to be ‘the guy.’ ”

•   On Bobby Valentine’s influence: “I’m seeing a lot more hit-and-runs, more aggressive baserunning, pickoffs whenever there’s a guy on second, the infield playing back then running in, delayed steals — I guess it’s more of a National League style, but once the season starts, the Red Sox have to score a lot of runs. The small ball’s just to show other clubs what they have in their back pocket.”

•   More on Valentine: “I see more aggression on the basepaths, more steals, more hit-and-runs — that’s interesting to see, but their lineup’s so good, why run into outs? If they keep it up, I’ll throw them out at second, thank you.”

•   On Sweeney: “I’m concerned about his bat. When (Carl) Crawford is healthy and comes back, I think I’d want Darnell McDonald’s bat in there; he’s played better.”

•   On Andrew Bailey and Mark Melancon: “I haven’t seen anything to get excited about yet. I think (Alfredo) Aceves will be in the back of the bullpen eventually.”

Repoz Posted: March 18, 2012 at 06:37 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: red sox, scouting

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 18, 2012 at 07:29 AM (#4083425)
Looking over Valentine's career with the Mets and Rangers, he appears to have called for fewer sac bunts and fewer steals than the average manager. I don't think he's going to be having the club running into outs.

But there is a time for a sac bunt even with a great lineup in a hitter's park, and a time for a squeeze and a hit-and-run, and there are always times for steals with the right runners and right opponents. What Valentine is doing, I assume, is making the Sox practice these plays in game situations.

What's weird is that Tito didn't do this in spring. Shouldn't this be the perfectly normal best practice of every manager? (Or is it, and people are noticing here not because Valentine is an outlier, but because Tito was an outlier?)
   2. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 18, 2012 at 12:31 PM (#4083489)
In his fifth season as Yankees manager, Joe Girardi’s suddenly the grizzled veteran skipper of the AL East.


Uh, really? Maddon has been there a year longer and is significantly older.
   3. tshipman Posted: March 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM (#4083492)
And Ross looks like a great pickup. There’s no pressure on him to be ‘the guy.’


Uh, there's never been pressure on Cody Ross to be "the guy." There were 5 magical games in October of 2010 where he was, but no one assumed he would be.
   4. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: March 18, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4083514)
Jim, how many times do I have to tell you that the AL East only goes as far north as Boston (maybe Toronto sometimes) and only as far south as New York?
   5. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4083587)
Seriously Jim, there's no meaningful baseball in Tampa (Tampa!? I can't even keep a straight face) once the Yanks leave town.
   6. The District Attorney Posted: March 18, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4083593)
The Red Sox are all in the best shape of their lives.
   7. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: March 18, 2012 at 05:12 PM (#4083693)
?On Andrew Bailey and Mark Melancon: “I haven’t seen anything to get excited about yet. I think (Alfredo) Aceves will be in the back of the bullpen eventually.”


Well, they've only pitched about 5 innings between them, anonymous scout. Bailey got a little knocked around, but he was up in the mid-90s, so I'm less worried about his stuff being there or not. As long as he's healthy, he'll probably be ok.
   8. Tripon Posted: March 18, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4083700)

Uh, really? Maddon has been there a year longer and is significantly older.


I wouldn't refer Maddon to be 'grizzled', there's even a teddy bear made in his likeness!
   9. Dan Posted: March 18, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4083748)
The teddy bear is Don Zimmer. Seriously.
   10. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 18, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4083749)
The bear is actually Don Zimmer, not Maddon.

Seriously Jim, there's no meaningful baseball in Tampa (Tampa!? I can't even keep a straight face) once the Yanks leave town.


Can't argue with that since Tropicana Field is in St. Petersburg!

Edit: I'm keeping the damn Cokes for myself so I'll give Dan one of my post-biking recovery chocolate milks instead.
   11. Darren Posted: March 18, 2012 at 06:52 PM (#4083765)
What if he was a grizzly teddy bear? Would that make him grizzled?

I'm joking of course.
   12. Dan Posted: March 18, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4083805)
Good, I only like Mexican Coke anyway. #### the #### with HFCS.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Tuque
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogBoston Red Sox prove (once again) that competitive balance in baseball will never exist | cleveland.com
(32 - 12:13pm, Nov 27)
Last: McCoy

NewsblogOTP Politics November 2014: Mets Deny Bias in Ticket Official’s Firing
(5011 - 12:10pm, Nov 27)
Last: Mefisto

Newsblog[Cricketer NOT baseball player] Phil Hughes dies after “pitch” to the head
(5 - 12:09pm, Nov 27)
Last: Ron J2

Hall of Merit2015 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion
(56 - 11:56am, Nov 27)
Last: Patrick W

NewsblogSource: Tomas agrees to six-year deal with D-backs | MLB.com
(14 - 11:39am, Nov 27)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogDave Cameron: A proposed three-way swap for Red Sox, Mariners, Nationals
(31 - 11:36am, Nov 27)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogJon Lester has plenty of options in addition to Red Sox - Sports - The Boston Globe
(6 - 11:28am, Nov 27)
Last: Darren

NewsblogNotable Players Available In The Rule 5 Draft - BaseballAmerica.com
(8 - 11:17am, Nov 27)
Last: Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday

NewsblogOT: NBC.news: Valve isn’t making one gaming console, but multiple ‘Steam machines’
(1144 - 11:13am, Nov 27)
Last: formerly dp

NewsblogSandy Alderson says Mets can move quickly if a shortstop becomes available - NY Daily News
(22 - 10:59am, Nov 27)
Last: You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR)

NewsblogOT: NFL/NHL thread
(8709 - 9:43am, Nov 27)
Last: PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth)

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - November 2014
(1140 - 7:27am, Nov 27)
Last: GregD

Newsblog2015 Potential Hall of Fame Ballot | Baseball-Reference.com
(32 - 5:30am, Nov 27)
Last: bjhanke

NewsblogDarvish cleared to throw « Postcards From Elysian Fields
(9 - 2:30am, Nov 27)
Last: Jim (jimmuscomp)

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-25-2014
(9 - 1:05am, Nov 27)
Last: esseff

Page rendered in 0.1368 seconds
52 querie(s) executed