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Thursday, July 08, 2010
I'd like to know what you think of BP just past the midpoint of 2010. I'd like to know what you like, what you don't like, what you would like to see more of, what you would like to see less of. I can't promise I'll be able to respond to each comment but I will read them all. What I can promise is that I and the rest of us here will take your feedback into great consideration as we continue to strive to make BP the type of site that baseball fans feel they absolutely must visit every day.
BP staff member Joe Sheehan
That, more or less, is why forums are basically a non-starter. All cost, no revenue.
TangoTiger
Fangraphs has forums, and they don't charge their readers. Primer has forums, and they don't charge their readers. You've got to have a better reason for not having a forum considering that you are already charging readers.
BP staff member Joe Sheehan
How about this?
I've done sports content as a business for 15 years. By any standard I'm one of a small number of people to do it successfully outside the mainstream, I've played most of the roles one can play and holy god I'm sick of listening to you act as if you've had 1% of the success the people you criticize have had. How about you grant that I might know what I'm talking about, given that sports content has been my career, without me having to make a business case to someone with no standing to ask for one?
Fangraphs, as far as I can tell, is financed by a rich grandpa. Primer/BTF/Newsstand/Brand of the Day isn't a business in any real sense of the word, it's r.s.b ported to the Web and stripped of its spark. That you would make these comparisons shows just how little you understand of Prospectus, how little you've ever understood.
Stick to being an academic, Thomas. Stick to your sycophant-laden fora and your above-it-all mien. Stop jumping in here and cheap-shotting a business that you've never comprehended on your best day.
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Wife is drinking a Shandy. I have Sam Adams Summer Ale and also some Spotted Cow. I am sipping gin on ice.
Whoa, a Chris Bosio reference. I was just talking baseball with a co-worker yesterday, and the first MLB game she ever attended was Bosio's no-hitter (despite the fact that she had grown up in Georgia with a family full of baseball fans). It's hard to imagine attending such an experience without finally falling for the game. I remember watching it on TV, as well as the 20+ min. brawl between the M's & O's a week or so later in which Bosio would get injured.
This one made it all worthwhile...
Wandy plowing thru the Cards so far
Ribs warming up to room temp. Grill fires up in about 30
That you, Jason Kendall?
I am grilling ribs and the prep and then the grilling itself is an all afternoon item. So I am passing the downtime. What is so crazy?
Hopefully he can tell a pile of whale blubber from a future first baseman.
Synergistically, that's actually the meaning of my screen name.
EDIT: This works too: "I never realized until last night just how fat Prince is. He's got manboobs, for Pete's sake."
You doing Game Chatter here when there is a perfectly good game chatter thread somewhere else.
It is pretty amzing in a decent pitchers park the Brewers management couldn't find enough guys to keep the opposition to 4 runs a game most nights. The offense could get them to 85-90 wins if Melvin and Co. knew a pitcher from a bathtub.
Harveys' behavior in this thread has been obnoxious. In 15 years of internet discussion this is the closest I have ever come to putting someone on ignore.
People were having a useful discussion about the site, and he's polluted the thread.
Well, if I am bothering folks I will leave. I didn't see an all-encompassing location for multiple games at once.
Sorry if I offended.
That's fine, but IMO you should choose a different thread each time. One posted on the day you're doing multiple chatters.
Just a suggestion.
The problem isn't even just the pitcher/bathtub confusion, it's the insistence on spending millions of dollars on the bathtubs. They could get guys to pitch as well as Wolf or Davis or Suppan for $400K and spend the rest of the money, I don't know, signing Daniel Gibson or something.
potato chips are vegan.
As long as you've popped up again, Bernal, I'll note that many times you've exhibited the nastiness Dan speaks of, in that you show up in political threads seemingly for the express purpose of insulting a small subset of the participants (usually David and I). At the end of the day I consider your berating harmless and even (believe it or not) good-natured at heart, but on the surface your posts don't come off that way and they import a tone into the thread that contributes to the nastiness, IMO.
My current completely unclever handle is one I picked out in the time it took me to type it.
There aren't any current posters who rub me the wrong way, though it's easy to remain unoffended when just lurking. My sense of humor is such that I do find guys like Bernal and Sam (not the same voice, I know...but still) more funny and good natured than abrasive. I do not like to see anyone slide tackle Harveys when he's just having fun, though.
edited for typos
Well, I was asked to stop so I stopped.
I don't claim to know all the unwritten rules of posting. (Insert Brenly joke)
As I wrote earlier, I am making ribs, it takes a low and slow approach, and I thought I would fill the time commenting on a bevy of games. I thought it was fun. Others disagreed.
I know in some quarters I am perceived as 'sensitive' because at various points I will just cease and desist in various threads. But I have learned that some arguments are just a waste of energy. And given my years I don't have much to spare (ha!)
I will gladly accept insults in my direction. But when barbs are directed that involve other family members, namely my spouse, I have no tolerance. When folks make comments that could be construed in different ways I ask for clarification. If none is given I presume the target was the Mrs. and respond accordingly.
Posters can call me a no-account, lazy, stupid, bigoted, hillybilly motherf*cker all day long and twice on Sunday.
But leave the Mrs. out of it.
Anyway, sorry again for polluting the thread. I was just passing the time.
Sincerely,
Harvey
COREY HART!!!!!!
Keep up the good work Wallbanger. I'll make a point of putting up a MegaChatter thread starting after the All-Star.
Do you want to see him traded at peak value, or do you think he's finally got his act together and would you like to see him extended?
I submitted one this morning that didn't make the cut. I guess there is a fear of frequent refreshing or something.
You should have your hair washed in corn syrup and be inserted upside down in a termite hill.
Just a couple quick comments since we're reminiscing:
Admiral Sheehan's comments made me think, "It's a prat!" Tango should have replied with "Why thank you kind sir!"
That story is in no way remarkable, right? Well I'm also a Crimson Tide fan, a Saints fan, and my Braves currently have the best record in the NL.
Who wants to join me at a racetrack before my governor shuts them all down?
That said, I'd shop him around. Fielder and Braun are moving into their primes (and they should definitely re-sign Prince), so if Hart can nab a young pitcher, that offense could live without him.
Wrong.
I just went to one the other day and I am probably going back tomorrow or the next day. Of course I'm going to the casino part of the track and not the horsie part. They just installed table games at the casino and the dealers are total newbs. They handed me $250 when they should have been taking away $50. They have some poker tables as well but I haven't checked them out yet. With payouts like that who needs too.
Anyway the other day I was thinking about the Lebron james mural that was coming down while fantasizing about being some great soccer player. Which is typical of me since I pretty much fantasize I'm some stud-whatever-sport-I'm-currently watching type guy and I was thinking about the Nike slogan "Just do it" and I got to wondering why they never did a "Just did it" campaign. You know something like "I'm going to Disneyland" where they show some athlete accomplishing some major feat or something athletically extraordinary and then the player says something like "Just do it? Just did it."
But the cautionary note on Corey is that he is very much a pull hitter this season. Like Rolen he has made an extreme effort to look for pitches middle in and unload. At some point pitchers will adjust.
Hart is a poor right fielder. It wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to put him at first. If one thinks he can maintain this type of output. Questionable
Prince just isn't staying fit. He will want a long-term deal. That has 330 lb millstone in 2014 written all over it.................................
to put it mildly,
you got yourself some raw nerve complaining about harvey hijacking this thread to talk about BASEBALL when you are infamous for hijacking threads to talk &*($&@$! POLITICS (and no i do NOT care if they are leftist, rightist or what-ist)
everyone been complaining about theres no chatters no mo and harvey provides it and bytchbytchbytch
and we just finished our bbq and good thing there is a shade awning in the backyard because thre is like NO wind and it is HOT. and it is too hot to cook inside, too
Hart has nine "Just Enough" homers per HitTracker, second in the NL to...Casey McGehee, who has 10. McGehee's case is even worse when you consider that he only has 13 homers overall. The Brewers should be looking to trade both, along with Dave Bush. Move Lawrie to third and Gamel to right field. Or keep Gamel at third and move Lawrie to right field. Acquire pitchers whose fastballs can break a pane of glass.
Do you have a cloaca?
Absolutely concur on Casey. He is cheap so teams should find him attractive. I wish Gamel would go on a hot streak so Melvin would get the gumption to make the move. Of course, Lawrie is the better option. But you know Doug and his iterative pattern.
Are you a Scottish woman?
How many of those "just enough" HR would have been an out under different circumstances and how many of them would be doubles?
Don't know.
Not the last time I checked, but I was recently bitten by a radioactive pigeon.
Gamel's time is right now. And if he goes kersplat in 2010 then cope with Counsell who can at least be above average defensively.
San Diego. The longer they go the more tempting it becomes.
LAA. Every time I look at the box score it's someone at third who is really bad.
MN. But the Twins won't do anything.......
i wouldn't be real too surprised if the astros had interest in casey because they hate chris johnson as much as they did luke scott and pedro feliz is overcooked
Well, if the Astros had anyone worth a tinker's d*rn that might be interesting. But they don't.
Now that I got that out of the way, Gary Geiger was a fourth outfielder for the Red Sox around the same time Roger Repoz was playing. I think I chose GGC as a left handed tribute to Repoz.
- sadly
yeah, trust me on this i know it - i've been looking through the teams because i was gonna do an entry on the "prospects" and - well, there really isn't anyone worth talking about except for douglas arguello and they are gonna let him rot in AA because he was signed by purpura and we all have to buy into the bullstuff that purpura was the cause of the astros fall from excellence, not the stupid owner
who still won't let them sign really GOOD propsects because they will cost $$$
I don't hate anyone.
I wasn't suggesting the Brewers promote Lawrie this year; I was speaking of the future. I agree with HW that McGehee's value is at its apex right now; with guys like Gamel and Lawrie on hand, the Brewers should strike while McGehee still appears to be a starting-caliber third baseman.
1. I don't hijack threads to talk about politics; I participate in discussions that either start out as, or turn into, politics.
There's a huge difference, Lisa.
2. This thread wasn't about baseball; it was about this site. Nevertheless, I don't mind when discussions take a new direction -- in fact, I consider that a feature, not a bug. But it seemed that Harveys just all of a sudden started game-chattering in a place where it didn't belong. That said, I will admit to being overly cranky about it.
To follow up on trading Hart I don't think the Brewers have a clear "plan B". Gamel is scuffling at Triple A, recovering from injury and would be learning a new position. That would be a recipe for career disaster. Inglett, the bench guy? Gerut? Neither has the bat for right field. Lorenzo Cain is hitting really at AA/AAA but it's all singles. He's a pure centerfield type by the look of things. Does the Crew really expect Edmonds to hold up for the rest of the season?
My real name is Joseph; my handle has nothing to do with it, obviously.
I change my handle a lot, because I think other people used to change their handles now and again and I felt left out. So now I change mine every few weeks, I guess because I never land on one that makes me feel good. Probably indicative of the way I approach my life, I suppose.
The only poster I know of who remembers my first appearance is Dan Werr, which is part of why I miss him and wish he didn't spend all his time hiding over in the forums. I showed up many moons ago in a thread about Whitey Herzog ######## about the lack of fundamentals in today's game. I was a migrant from the Neyer boards, and even more of a thug then than I am now. I took (unthinking) exception to Herzog's comments, and was rightly lambasted for my asshattery.
I posted under the name "Vox Populi". It's been so long that I can't remember the precise reasons, but they were sort of like this:
1. I had just learned that "man on the street" interviews in journalism were called "vox pop", and I thought that was an interesting piece of nomenclature.
2. I thought that having a Latin name might make me seem smart.
As I said, I came under a lot of fire for my comments -- which, as I recall, basically consisted of calling Whitey Herzog an old coot who didn't understand today's (ie, 2002's) game -- and felt kind of bad about it. In fact, the poster who gave me the very most #### was RETARDO, the notoriously ludditic left-winger who used to be a regular around here. I was too embarassed to keep posting as "Vox Populi", and changed it to "Voxter"; the origins of the abbreviation escape me now. (I'm fairly sure that Retardo was not the only regular to get on my case for what I'm sure were fairly ignorant comments.) These were so early in my days as an online person that Voxter has subsequently become my name in a lot of online fora, notably Baseball Toaster, where I used to flame Jon Weissman for his ill-informed opinions on television, Scott Long for his ill-informed opinions on the White Sox, and and Ken Arenson for being a million bajillion times smarter and more grown-up than me.
Anyway, that's the "short blurb" on why I am Voxter.
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