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Thursday, January 08, 2009

BPro: Jacques: Euphemistically Speaking, the MLB Network

Derek Jacques finds fault with the MLB Network…all without ever mentioning the wee ARF escapee sleeping on Joe Magrane’s head.

However, there was a stray phrase in one segment of Tuesday’s Hot Stove that made me do a double-take, and risks dampening my enthusiasm for the network as a whole. The segment was about the Yankees‘ history of spending on high-profile free agents. In it, reporter Greg Amsinger divided the Steinbrenner era into four parts–1973-1981, when the team spent on premier free agents like Catfish Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Goose Gossage and Dave Winfield, and won championships; 1982-1995, when the team “join[ed] other franchises in self-restraint and a change of philosophy that led to a title drought in the 80s;” 1996-2000, when the team built from within and used mid-market signings to become a champion again; and 2001-present, when the Yankees have been on a fruitless spending spree with no end in sight.

If the quotes didn’t give it away, it’s the description of that second part that rubbed me the wrong way. Set aside that the description doesn’t quite fit the time period carved out–the Yankees spent freely on the market for all but a short part of that fourteen-year period–the fact is, there’s a very specific term for the “change in philosophy” that caused the Yankees to briefly join other franchises in “self restraint.” It was called collusion, a dark period when baseball’s owners brazenly violated their labor agreement with the players, and had to be ordered to pay nearly $300 million in damages as a result.

I’m hoping that the “c-word” just slipped Amsinger’s mind while preparing the segment. Otherwise, it’s a real unpromising sign of what we can expect from the MLB Network going forward. Collusion wasn’t self-restraint, it was an illegal agreement between baseball’s clubs to restrain each other. More importantly, the collusion era is old news–if the MLB Network is going to put a glossy pro-ownership spin on embarrassing events that happened over 20 years ago, how can we trust them to report reliably on current events?

Repoz Posted: January 08, 2009 at 12:23 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bunyon Posted: January 08, 2009 at 01:42 PM (#3046191)
if the MLB Network is going to put a glossy pro-ownership spin on embarrassing events that happened over 20 years ago, how can we trust them to report reliably on current events?

Well, you can't. But I thought that would have been obvious from the start. No business is going to spend to have it's own network and then forthrightly examine the warts of the business. That doesn't mean there can't be some entertaining programming. The point of MLB isn't analysis, after all, it's entertainment. If they keep showing classic games and good documentaries, I'd advise just skipping "Hot Stove" (especially when you can come here and get better analysis, snark and fellowship). It's basically a circle-jerk.
   2. BeanoCook Posted: January 08, 2009 at 02:13 PM (#3046196)
Where would baseball prospectus be at without pissing on the mainstream of baseball? Consider this article just BPro marking its territory.
   3. Autobahn Posted: January 08, 2009 at 02:15 PM (#3046198)
I don't get why everyone is so surprised about the lack of "warts and all" analysis, i never came across any articles in the lead up to the start of the MLB network that promised any thing of the sort.

To be fair do they really need to have a 60 minutes for baseball? I mean there are large sections of the print press and online media that do that job pretty well already.
   4. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: January 08, 2009 at 02:25 PM (#3046202)
In addition to my readings on the current economic collpase, I'm finally getting around to reading The People's History of the United States. It stay on the surface more than I expected but it's going to be an excellent jumping off point for further reading.

And yeah, I doubt we're going to see the Howard Zinn of baseball history on MLB TV anytime soon nor, probably, should we expect to. Seeing classic games re-broadcast is cool, though. Games I'd like to see if tapes actually exist:

Maris breaking Ruth's record (I'm curious about the crowd reaction since we've all been brainwashed that Yankee fans hated Maris and made his hair fall out)
Marichal-Roseboro fight game. That must have been surreal.
Any of the WS games of the 1970's A's.
And a thousand others. There's also scraps of Negro League film out there I would dearly love for someone to collect together in one source. Make it happen MLB TV!
   5. Chris Needham Posted: January 08, 2009 at 02:36 PM (#3046206)
Huh. I must've missed all the self-criticism in my last few BPro annuals.

Rich Becker forever!
   6. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:16 PM (#3046232)
And yeah, I doubt we're going to see the Howard Zinn of baseball history on MLB TV anytime soon nor, probably, should we expect to.


He did a sports book recently, IIRC. I haven't read it.
   7. billyjack Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:21 PM (#3046239)
Just gotta mention, the '46 Series program was perfection. I think it repeats tonight at 10:30pm. Awesome.
   8. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:24 PM (#3046248)
He did a sports book recently, IIRC. I haven't read it.

I couldn't find it on Amazon. There's a sports book by a guy named Dave Zirin that gets mixed up with Howard Zinn when you put Zinn's name in their search engine, though.
   9. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:32 PM (#3046261)
It's Zirin. A people's history of sports in the United States : 250 years of politics, protest, people, and play is what I'm thinking about. It sounds like something Zinn would write, though, doesn't it?
   10. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:33 PM (#3046264)
It's Zirin. A people's history of sports in the United States : 250 years of politics, protest, people, and play is what I'm thinking about. It sounds like something Zinn would write, though, doesn't it?

Yeah. I wonder if that was done on purpose. Hmmm....
   11. Repoz Posted: January 08, 2009 at 03:45 PM (#3046280)
Shhhh. Zirin is a Primate. Don't wake him.
   12. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 08, 2009 at 04:45 PM (#3046354)
More importantly, the collusion era is old news–if the MLB Network is going to put a glossy pro-ownership spin on embarrassing events that happened over 20 years ago, how can we trust them to report reliably on current events?


Yeah, but if you listen to Fay Vincent, Selig and Reinsdorf were behind it. Maybe they'll mention it after they leave. BTW, I see Jerry still hasn't paid his sister back.
   13. WillYoung Posted: January 08, 2009 at 05:15 PM (#3046395)
Zirin also went to Rowing Girl's school for college.

I found it amusing that ESPN classic was showing the 1990 season opener between the Orioles and Royals the other day right after the MLB Network launched. Not sure what the significance was, but as a baseball nerd I was hooked into watching it.

Random observations: Big game for Sam Horn. Bo Jackson was absolutely ripped. Mickey Tettleton didn't yet use his famous batting stance with the bat parallel to the ground. The ESPN announcer was very much aware of pitch counts and amazed that Saberhagen was allowed to pitch the sixth (after only 3 spring training starts due to the season's lockout).

Anyway, if the creation of the MLB Network is going to trick ESPN Classic into showing more random baseball games, I'm all in favor of it.

Other games I would LOVE to see (I'll probably watch any pre-2000 game just for fun, but these are ones I would especially tune in for):
1) Any 1969 Twins game in which a player stole home.
2) Any Bert Blyleven start from the late 70s to mid 80s so we can hear how his contemporary announcers described him.
3) Any game in which Bo Jackson did anything crazy.
4) Any Mark Fidrych start.
5) Pretty much any game from the 1970s.
   14. Maury Brown Posted: January 08, 2009 at 06:32 PM (#3046517)
This issue of being able to have the network look at critical elements of the league will define them. As an example, the ticker was running the other night mentioning that Moorad was in exclusive negotiations to purchase the Padres. On the same day, there was a story talking about Assemblyman Richard Brodsky wanting to delay a vote on granting the Yankees and Mets more tax-exempts bonds for their stadiums.

Now, I'm not expecting the critical story to be front and center on a league owned network. However, it was certainly newsworthy enough to run on the ticker.

MLB still believes that there was no collusion, so regardless of not one, or two rulings in favor of the players, but three, you're not going to see MLB Network going there any more than I expect to see a 30 min. special on the Mitchell Report.

MLB Network is what it is, which is fine by me. There will be plenty of good programming to retain my interest. However, choosing it as a one-stop-channel for all things baseball would lend itself to a narrow viewpoint.
   15. SteveM. Posted: January 08, 2009 at 06:50 PM (#3046547)
Howard Zinn is a joke in historical circles. If you want a liberal viewpoint, you are far better offer reading the works of Eric Foner.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 08, 2009 at 06:52 PM (#3046551)
Not sure what the significance was, but as a baseball nerd I was hooked into watching it.

First game ever telecast by ESPN. I watched it as well, and I knew the outcome, but still felt the Royals would pull it out!
   17. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude Posted: January 08, 2009 at 06:58 PM (#3046562)
Well, you can't. But I thought that would have been obvious from the start. No business is going to spend to have it's own network and then forthrightly examine the warts of the business.

Exactly. I wouldn't really expect the MLB Network to discuss collusion any more than I would expect them to have Jose Canseco, Mark Fainaru-Wada, and Lance Williams on as guests to discuss steroids. It's a self-promoting enterprise, not a journalistic one.
   18. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:01 PM (#3046567)
Howard Zinn is a joke in historical circles. If you want a liberal viewpoint, you are far better offer reading the works of Eric Foner.

Possibly. I've just heard so much about the book I finally decided to read it.
   19. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:10 PM (#3046582)
Howard Zinn is a joke in historical circles. If you want a liberal viewpoint, you are far better offer reading the works of Eric Foner.
I read Foner's Reconstruction book quite a few years ago and I thought it was excellent. Any other Foners that you could recommend?
   20. SteveM. Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:15 PM (#3046598)
Eric Hobsbawm, a British historian, does for British history what Foner does for the US, though I also suspect he lets his ideology color his results. My greatest admiration for Foner is that while I don't agree with Foner's politics, I believe he doesn't let his politics get in the way of his analysis. Zinn on the other hand lets his politics shapes his conclusions, rather then evidence.
   21. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:16 PM (#3046600)
Merkle's Foner. It takes a look at the 1908 pennant races.
   22. scareduck Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:45 PM (#3046650)
Merkle's Foner.

Sponsored by Sprint?

MLB Network, biased? Sure. This means they won't cover juicy stories like Milton Bradley decking his pregnant wife, etc., which leads me to the immediate conclusion that ESPN & co. have little to worry about.
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:49 PM (#3046657)
This means they won't cover juicy stories like Milton Bradley decking his pregnant wife, etc., which leads me to the immediate conclusion that ESPN & co. have little to worry about.

ESPN won't cover this either unless he plays for the Yankees.
   24. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: January 08, 2009 at 07:51 PM (#3046664)
ESPN won't cover this either unless he plays for the Yankees.

What does Terrell Owens have to do with any of this?
   25. WillYoung Posted: January 08, 2009 at 08:11 PM (#3046704)
Howard Zinn is a joke in historical circles. If you want a liberal viewpoint, you are far better offer reading the works of Eric Foner.

Foner's Reconstruction book was a disaster. The densest piece of crap I've ever tried to read (and I read lots, and lots, and lots of dense history).
   26. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: January 08, 2009 at 08:15 PM (#3046716)
What do you mean, "historical circles"? Anyone who writes books for the popular market that are designed to persuade rather than dryly inform is a joke in academic historical circles. Are you saying Howard Zinn's books are full of lies, or what?
   27. SteveM. Posted: January 08, 2009 at 10:59 PM (#3046968)
I am saying, as an academic historian, the only possible use I could think of for Zinn's book is as a coaster for my beer. He slants his evidence and ignores evidence that contradicts his thesis. Its not a work of history, its a polemic.
   28. Swedish Chef Posted: January 08, 2009 at 11:14 PM (#3046987)
He slants his evidence and ignores evidence that contradicts his thesis.

His talent is wasted on history, he should be a Senator.
   29. Gamingboy Posted: January 09, 2009 at 01:41 AM (#3047112)
Hey, they just said that (paraphrasing) "The Pirates haven't had a winning season since '92, when Jim Leyland was young and Barry Bonds was skinny."



ZING!

And then Joe Magrane said that Pirates fans would be better-suited to wait for Steelers tickets!


EDGY!
   30. GGC don't think it can get longer than a novella Posted: February 22, 2009 at 04:03 PM (#3083065)
And to confuse the issue even more, there's a couple of more Zinns out there. I think I embarassed the younger one yesterday when I confused his dad with Zirin and asked if he wrote something about Ali.
   31. aleskel Posted: February 22, 2009 at 05:32 PM (#3083102)
hey, they're showing Nolan Ryan's 1991 no-hitter vs. the Jays right now
   32. Jolly Old St. Nick Done Jumped The Ship Posted: February 22, 2009 at 05:53 PM (#3083117)
Games I'd like to see if tapes actually exist:

Maris breaking Ruth's record (I'm curious about the crowd reaction since we've all been brainwashed that Yankee fans hated Maris and made his hair fall out)


The tape doesn't exist, only the brief clip of # 61 itself. And no, the Yankee fans didn't hate Maris during his chase, though a few writers questioned the Babe Ruth comparisons by pointing to Maris's low batting average. And it was the incessant clamoring for attention from the media that caused his hair to start to fall out, not any negative reaction from the Yankee Stadium fans. The booing didn't begin until the next year.
   33. WillYoung Posted: February 22, 2009 at 06:18 PM (#3083126)
hey, they're showing Nolan Ryan's 1991 no-hitter vs. the Jays right now


And the broadcast includes each hitters: BA, OBP, HR, and RBI. OBP back in 1991!
   34. Lassus Posted: February 22, 2009 at 06:24 PM (#3083132)
hey, they're showing Nolan Ryan's 1991 no-hitter vs. the Jays right now

This is why this channel is really awesome.

Hey, does anyone know when the first numbers come out, as far as ratings?

EDIT: Well, I guess not first, I just mean "any".
   35. Jeff K. Posted: February 22, 2009 at 06:27 PM (#3083133)
I remember being woken up at some ungodly hour in the morning (5 AM?) to be told about that no-hitter. I was 12, almost 13 at the time, really into baseball and of course lived in Arlington, but I could not have cared less at that moment.
   36. Flynn Posted: February 22, 2009 at 06:35 PM (#3083136)
Dave Zirin is the Howard Zinn of sports..with a lot of the same warts. It'd also be nice if he did a book that didn't have Muhammad Ali on the cover.

This isn't the first time the MLB Network has tried to cover collusion - they once described Andre Dawson's free agent signing with the Cubs as "mysterious". But MLB Network hasn't turned into the Iraqi Information Ministry either. Eventually they're going to show the 9th inning of Baseball, and if they chop up Marvin Miller's frank discussion of collusion then I'll be mad.

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