Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Saturday, December 15, 2012

Brackin: Jack Morris era intersects steroids era in latest vote

Screw Christian Mingle…the Jack Morris dating system is now available!

“What did you see with the naked eye?” he said. “That’s usually the way you pick a bride. I don’t think any woman is going to be too pleased if you ask her to step on a scale, to check her numbers.”

and more…

“To me, it’s frustrating to hear, ‘Oh, Morris might have a chance because he’s on the ballot with all the guys who did this and that,’” he said. “Wait a minute. Take that out of the picture. I’m either in or out, based on what I did. I don’t think [the alleged steroid users] should have anything to do with it.”

Morris, who pitched from 1977 to 1994 and won 254 games, gained 66.7 percent of the 573 ballots cast last year, meaning he needs to pick up 48 more votes—more if the number of voters increases, as anticipated—to reach the required 75 percent threshold. He leaves no doubt how he would vote on alleged cheaters.

“Look, guys do [performance-enhancing drugs] to get an edge,” he said. “They don’t feel good about their God-given ability, so they’ve got to have an edge. That mentality bothers me. ... I just think it’s wrong for society to reward people for doing something that was definitely wrong.

“That sends the wrong message to the next generation. I know I was never raised that way, and I would not want to live that way. I didn’t cheat my teammates, myself, or anybody. I’m not a perfect guy. I made a lot of bad mistakes in my life, but not in that regard.”

Repoz Posted: December 15, 2012 at 07:07 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, hof

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: December 15, 2012 at 07:35 PM (#4325723)
I propose a Grand Compromise, where the vaguely rational people agree to hold their noses and vote for Morris in exchange for the idiots to shut up and admit Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are inner circle HOFers.
   2. JJ1986 Posted: December 15, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4325724)
I remember when Jack Morris retired after 1988.
   3. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: December 15, 2012 at 07:51 PM (#4325732)
I don’t think any woman is going to be too pleased if you ask her to step on a scale, to check her numbers.”

Unless members of the woman's family spend months telling you that she weighs 110 pounds, even though she looks like an NFL lineman. Then it might be time to dig a little deeper.
   4. Squash Posted: December 15, 2012 at 09:32 PM (#4325791)
It's interesting the way things play out. After all the quibbles of last the ten years, who would have thought Jack Morris's HOF candidacy would turn out to be one of the last, if not the last, major ####-you-stat-geeks battles of the First Moneyball War?
   5. Bob from Indiana Posted: December 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM (#4325824)
“Wait a minute. Take that out of the picture. I’m either in or out, based on what I did."

Out.
   6. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: December 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM (#4325827)
I don’t think any woman is going to be too pleased if you ask her to step on a scale, to check her numbers.”

Unless members of the woman's family spend months telling you that she weighs 110 pounds, even though she looks like an NFL lineman. Then it might be time to dig a little deeper.
Nailed it.
   7. Walt Davis Posted: December 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM (#4325831)
Nobody's denying that Morris has a pretty face and trim figure, but that Fran Drescher laugh just ruins it.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: December 15, 2012 at 11:17 PM (#4325833)
Also Shooty's Mom has made 15 "opening day starts" but nobody's pimping her for the HoF.
   9. Bhaakon Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:04 AM (#4325872)
I propose a Grand Compromise, where the vaguely rational people agree to hold their noses and vote for Morris in exchange for the idiots to shut up and admit Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are inner circle HOFers.


No negotiating with terrorists. I'd rather they all stay out than less Morris in.
   10. I Am Not a Number Posted: December 16, 2012 at 11:00 AM (#4325950)
Unless members of the woman's family spend months telling you that she weighs 110 pounds, even though she looks like an NFL lineman.

She might have just been eating to her dress size.
   11. The elusive Robert Denby Posted: December 16, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4326009)
She might have just been eating to her dress size.

Well played.
   12. J.R. Wolf Posted: December 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM (#4326313)
Studies have proven that women never eat to their dress size.
   13. Jittery McFrog Posted: December 17, 2012 at 12:56 AM (#4326403)
“What did you see with the naked eye?” he said. “That’s usually the way you pick a bride. I don’t think any woman is going to be too pleased if you ask her to step on a scale, to check her numbers.”

Besides, many men have picked their brides as the result of a single performance one special evening.
   14. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:04 AM (#4326411)
My wife was a virgin on our wedding night, but only because Lonnie Smith inexplicably stopped at third base. This qualifies our marriage as one of the all-time greats.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: December 17, 2012 at 01:28 AM (#4326436)
My wife was a virgin on our wedding night, but only because Lonnie Smith inexplicably stopped at third base.

Imagine how much that frustrated John Smoltz.
   16. Lassus Posted: December 17, 2012 at 09:15 AM (#4326505)
Somehow I keep reading this headline as "Jack Morris Insects Steroid era in latest vote."

I am sorry I somehow missed the Jack Morris Insects Steroid era.
   17. Mickey Henry Mays Posted: December 17, 2012 at 09:52 AM (#4326521)
My wife was the Homecoming Queen in PS 80. Alright, so there were only five girls in the whole school, she still had the most guys asking her out.
   18. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM (#4326525)
I am sorry I somehow missed the Jack Morris Insects Steroid era.

THEM!! THEM!!
   19. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: December 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM (#4326535)
I am sorry I somehow missed the Jack Morris Insects Steroid era.

Joba Chamberlain wishes he had missed it.
   20. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: December 17, 2012 at 05:32 PM (#4327132)
18 posts of gold. Keep up the good work gentlemen (and ladies, if that may be the case).
   21. Ron J2 Posted: December 17, 2012 at 06:22 PM (#4327186)
#14 exceptionally well played. #10, 12,and 14 would be enough to win an ordinary thread but ...

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Dingbat_Charlie
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogFull Count » Red Sox sign Koji Uehara to 2-year contract
(16 - 9:04am, Oct 31)
Last: villageidiom

NewsblogNewest Hall of Fame Candidates Announced
(54 - 9:00am, Oct 31)
Last: AROM

NewsblogNo, Alex Gordon wouldn't have scored an inside the park home run
(141 - 8:56am, Oct 31)
Last: Brian White

NewsblogThe Players' Tribune: Jeter: The Clean Up
(4 - 8:55am, Oct 31)
Last: Steve Parris, Je t'aime

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-31-2014
(1 - 8:53am, Oct 31)
Last: Dan Lee is some pumkins

NewsblogBoston.com: Youk Retires
(2 - 8:34am, Oct 31)
Last: Random Transaction Generator

NewsblogFielding Bible
(3 - 8:07am, Oct 31)
Last: Harveys Wallbangers

NewsblogAngell: The Best
(19 - 7:29am, Oct 31)
Last: Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip

NewsblogOT: Politics, October 2014: Sunshine, Baseball, and Etch A Sketch: How Politicians Use Analogies
(4786 - 7:22am, Oct 31)
Last: Bitter Mouse

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - October 2014
(631 - 6:39am, Oct 31)
Last: Norcan

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1960 Discussion
(10 - 6:15am, Oct 31)
Last: AndrewJ

NewsblogSend Alex Gordon! | FiveThirtyEight
(83 - 4:02am, Oct 31)
Last: Maxwn

NewsblogOT: NBC.news: Valve isn’t making one gaming console, but multiple ‘Steam machines’
(1021 - 1:53am, Oct 31)
Last: The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott)

NewsblogJoe Maddon is to become Cubs manager, sources say
(108 - 1:49am, Oct 31)
Last: Sunday silence

NewsblogThings we learned from the 2014 playoffs
(11 - 12:17am, Oct 31)
Last: bobm

Page rendered in 0.1313 seconds
52 querie(s) executed