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Brad Ausmus named Angels manager | MLB.com

Ausmus, 49, will be formally introduced during a 1 p.m. PT news conference at Angel Stadium on Monday. Ausmus, who managed the Tigers from 2014-17, spent this past season as a special assistant to general manager Billy Eppler. The former big league catcher beat out nine other candidates for the position, including fellow special assistant Eric Chavez, Astros bench coach Joe Espada, Cubs bench coach Brandon Hyde and longtime MLB infielder Omar Vizquel.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 21, 2018 at 01:47 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. phredbird Posted: October 21, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5772071)

hey base ball chick!

now you have no excuse for not moving out to CA!

follow your dream boy!
   2. perros Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:12 PM (#5772075)
Isn't Ausmus a bad manager? Seems like they'd have done better going with one of the others.
   3. phredbird Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:16 PM (#5772080)

eh, casey stengel was a sucky manager until he wasn't.

in the immortal words of joaquin andujar, youneverknow.
   4. PreservedFish Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:18 PM (#5772081)
He's handsome.
   5. The Duke Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:31 PM (#5772082)
What happened to waiting for the World Series to end to announce transactions. What are Bell
And Ausmus going to do publicly in the next week that requires an announcement ?
   6. Howie Menckel Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:38 PM (#5772084)
that's over.
you have missed some blockbusters, including:

10/16/18 Miami Marlins traded RF Adonis Giron and LHP Brayan De Paula to Houston Astros for Future Considerations.

10/10/18 Miami Marlins traded RHP Kyle Barraclough to Washington Nationals for Future Considerations.

10/06/18 Miami Marlins traded RHP Ryan Lillie to Cincinnati Reds for Future Considerations.

10/05/18 Cleveland Indians traded RHP Julian Merryweather to Toronto Blue Jays.
   7. bobm Posted: October 21, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5772092)
[3] in the immortal words of joaquin andujar, youneverknow

FTFY (excuse my being pedantic)

SI: January 24, 1983 "HERE'S A HOT DOG YOU'VE GOT TO RELISH" by Steve Wulf

"My favorite word in English, and I love this word," says Andujar, "is 'youneverknow.'"
   8. Jay Seaver Posted: October 21, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5772112)
As much as Scioscia irritated me to watch as a fan of an opposing team - his exaggerated act whenever a call went against the Angels put him right down there with Maddon in terms of managers I just don't like - this seems like just about the least inspiring way to move on from him imaginable.
   9. Lars6788 Posted: October 21, 2018 at 04:55 PM (#5772125)
Maybe with an obvious direct line with the FO, namely the GM - the goal for Ausmus is to get out of the way, let the players play.

Scioscia was too big of an influence, good and bad.

The Angels get a clean slate and hopefully Ausmus has picked some things up, away from being a MLB manager.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: October 21, 2018 at 04:57 PM (#5772126)
I always thought Ausmus was a decent manager in training, embraced both analytics and the traditional to an extent, but like Matheny, wasn't a seasoned manager when he got the job, and was learning on the fly... compounded with a crappy organization that wasn't giving him much talent and the results happened as expected...
   11. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: October 21, 2018 at 05:12 PM (#5772128)
Ausmus might or might not be a palatable manager, but I can't see that we learned much about him either way from watching him handle the big ol' bag of dreck he was given in Detroit.
   12. phredbird Posted: October 21, 2018 at 06:18 PM (#5772139)
[3] in the immortal words of joaquin andujar, youneverknow

FTFY (excuse my being pedantic)

SI: January 24, 1983 "HERE'S A HOT DOG YOU'VE GOT TO RELISH" by Steve Wulf

"My favorite word in English, and I love this word," says Andujar, "is 'youneverknow.'"



heh. i loved the big dominican.
   13. base ball chick Posted: October 21, 2018 at 10:09 PM (#5772187)
hey phred

now ah could follow mah dream boy on mlb.tv (he's STILL teh HOTTTTTTTTTTT, old as he is. actually, i better shut up about old seeing as how me and Husband are gettin up there)

living in ell lay is not cheap

i hear they gave manager to be candidates a 2 hour written test. brad is ivy league smart and i guess he just aced it
   14. Howie Menckel Posted: October 21, 2018 at 10:49 PM (#5772196)
it's scary how many of us probably checked this thread to see if we got a bbc reaction to this hiring yet

:)
   15. Walt Davis Posted: October 22, 2018 at 12:03 AM (#5772209)
I'm not sure "dreck" is the right word for Detroit's talent during Ausmus's tenure. They won 93 the year before he took over, 90 in his first year and 86 in his 3rd year. Cabrera was coming off two straight MVP seasons (deserved or not, they were pretty awesome seasons) and put up OPS+ of 150, 169, 155 in Ausmus's first 3 years. He had the breaking out JDM and one awesome and one good season out of VMart. Kinsler was nearly a 6-WAR player in those first 3 years. The 2014 rotation had Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Anibal Sanchez, Smyly ... and David Price as deadline pickup. Verlander, Price and Sanchez were still around for 2015 and they added Cespedes. In 2016, Fulmer broke through and they signed Jordan Zimmermann which backfired but he was one of the top SP on the market while also signing J Upton.

Cabrera, Kinsler, Iglesias, JDM, Cespedes, Upton, Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Price, Zimmermann, Fulmer -- how much more talent do you want a manager to be given? And it's not like he did terribly -- 250 wins, one ALC title, one season 3 out of the WC -- he just didn't do well.

2017 was another matter of course but even that team still had a pretty good collection of talent, unfortunately Miggy and Kinsler showed their age and Zimmermann and Sanchez and other pitchers continued to stink. They had 67 pythag wins after losing about 9-10 WAR out of Miggy and Kinsler.

DD made plenty of mistakes and, even back in 2014, it wouldn't have surprised anybody if it had collapsed by 2017, but for 2014-16 he gave Ausmus plenty of talent to work with. That's not to say Ausmus did a bad job (it wasn't a particularly deep team) but it was a lot more talent than, say, your typical Twins or Padres teams, probably better than a typical Giants team (259 wins from 2014-16).

Just out of curiosity, I wondered how the Price trade turned out. The Tigers gave up Drew Smyly, Willy Adames and (to Seattle) Austin Jackson. AJax is just AJax. Smyly was awesome (results) for the rest of 2014, good but hurt in 2015, terrible in 2016, missed all of the last two years. Adames just had his age 22 season, entered the year as a top 20 prospect, had an excellent rookie half-season (2 WAR). Det got 1 WAR out of Price down the stretch in 2014, 2+ WAR in 2015 before trading him to Tor for Daniel Norris (they got about 2 WAR out of him) and Matt Boyd (a durable 5th/6th starter). Of course they would rather now have the next 6 years of Adames but kinda got what they wanted out of Price.
   16. perros Posted: October 22, 2018 at 12:24 AM (#5772211)

i hear they gave manager to be candidates a 2 hour written test. brad is ivy league smart and i guess he just aced it


Unfortunately, the average baseball game lasts three hours.
   17. Spahn Insane Posted: October 22, 2018 at 09:33 AM (#5772256)
hey base ball chick!

now you have no excuse for not moving out to CA!

follow your dream boy!


DH league.
   18. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: October 22, 2018 at 12:08 PM (#5772418)
it's scary how many of us probably checked this thread to see if we got a bbc reaction to this hiring yet


This is absolutely why I checked the thread out. I really like the community on this site.
   19. phredbird Posted: October 22, 2018 at 12:49 PM (#5772452)

living in ell lay is not cheap


first of all, anaheim is NOT L.A.

but, it is Orange County, which is not cheap, depending on where you are.

Irvine is not so bad.

the inland empire (not far away) is still affordable in places, but it's ... the inland empire. it's full of trumpkins.

Palm Springs is not as expensive as L.A., but I can't speak for how much more expensive it is than flyover country.

oh well, you can always watch his handsomeness on MLBTV.
   20. villageidiom Posted: October 22, 2018 at 01:21 PM (#5772475)
DH league.
This. I mean, if bbc is going to root for an AL team it'd be the Astros.

Me? I'm just rooting for more bbc. If it takes the Astros playing against Ausmus 19 times a year to make that happen, then I support the hire 100%.
   21. Rally Posted: October 22, 2018 at 01:43 PM (#5772489)
Palm Springs is not as expensive as L.A., but I can't speak for how much more expensive it is than flyover country.


It's also a good 1:30 to 2 hours from there to Gene Autry Way in Anaheim. Probably more than that if you were trying to get to a 7:05 Pacific time ballgame.
   22. Rally Posted: October 22, 2018 at 01:46 PM (#5772491)
Angels used an MLB high 601 relief appearances last year. So they are the team best positioned to maximize Ausmus walks to the mound.
   23. Hysterical & Useless Posted: October 22, 2018 at 02:15 PM (#5772523)
it's scary how many of us probably checked this thread to see if we got a bbc reaction to this hiring yet

This is absolutely why I checked the thread out. I really like the community on this site.


Yup. I only care about Bradley because of bbc, who needs to be here more.

I'm just rooting for more bbc


Double yup.
   24. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 22, 2018 at 03:46 PM (#5772587)
the inland empire (not far away) is still affordable in places, but it's ... the inland empire. it's full of trumpkins.
Having grown up in the Inland Empire (right beneath Ontario International's landing paths), the place is just a sh1thole. It's basically in the desert, and during the summers of my youth, nothing but smog alerts all summer long. It'd be a terrible place to play ball during the summer, and you'd definitely need a roof because it would rival Chase Field for outdoor temperatures 30 games a year.
   25. TJ Posted: October 22, 2018 at 05:11 PM (#5772666)
After watching Ausmus manage my beloved Detroit Tigers, part of me wonders what the heck the Angels are thinking. Then again, seeing how many former Tigers have made it to the World Series the past two seasons, it's a lock Ausmus will get the Angels there next year.
   26. Khrushin it bro Posted: October 22, 2018 at 05:58 PM (#5772696)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS SELL JEANS NEXT SEASON????
   27. phredbird Posted: October 22, 2018 at 06:13 PM (#5772704)

It's also a good 1:30 to 2 hours from there to Gene Autry Way in Anaheim.


yeah, i've driven to a game there before, but i stayed at a motel just down the street.

here's the weird thing. it's closer to palm springs than dodger stadium, but MLB blacks out dodger games in Palm Springs, not Angels games, which really pisses me off.


Having grown up in the Inland Empire (right beneath Ontario International's landing paths), the place is just a sh1thole.


yeah, no, i wasn't recommending it for anybody.
   28. Cooper Nielson Posted: October 23, 2018 at 02:17 PM (#5773186)
I'm not sure "dreck" is the right word for Detroit's talent during Ausmus's tenure. They won 93 the year before he took over, 90 in his first year and 86 in his 3rd year. Cabrera was coming off two straight MVP seasons (deserved or not, they were pretty awesome seasons) and put up OPS+ of 150, 169, 155 in Ausmus's first 3 years. He had the breaking out JDM and one awesome and one good season out of VMart. Kinsler was nearly a 6-WAR player in those first 3 years. The 2014 rotation had Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Anibal Sanchez, Smyly ... and David Price as deadline pickup. Verlander, Price and Sanchez were still around for 2015 and they added Cespedes. In 2016, Fulmer broke through and they signed Jordan Zimmermann which backfired but he was one of the top SP on the market while also signing J Upton.

Thanks, Walt. Indeed, suggesting that the Tigers gave Ausmus "dreck" to work with is definitely revisionist history. His teams had plenty of talent (and salary) and were more notable for underachieving than for being "talentless."

The roster he was given in his first season had 3-6 future Hall-of-Famers on it, none of them older than 32 (in order of likelihood: Cabrera, Verlander, Scherzer, [gap] Kinsler, Price, [big gap, but he's one of a handful of active pitchers with a chance to win 300 games so yaneverknow] Porcello), and plenty of supporting talent. They never quite figured out the bullpen though, and he didn't get much help from the farm (though in addition to Adames, the Tigers traded away Eugenio Suarez and Corey Knebel while Ausmus was there).
   29. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: October 23, 2018 at 02:26 PM (#5773202)
we all want more bbc.
   30. Astroenteritis Posted: October 23, 2018 at 04:54 PM (#5773383)
I did not see this coming. I do hope Ausmus has some success, but not too much!
   31. base ball chick Posted: October 24, 2018 at 12:04 AM (#5773830)
hello boys

thank all yall for the nice remarks

Khrushin it bro Posted: October 22, 2018 at 05:58 PM (#5772696)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS SELL JEANS NEXT SEASON????


call me crazy but i got this GREAT idea.....

or, well, maybe they could sell surfboards instead

oh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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