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Tuesday, February 04, 2014

Braves extend Freddie Freeman

The deal with Freeman could be for as much as $125 million, Fox Sports reported Tuesday. Financial terms were not released.

Freddie will not be a Free man for at least 8 more years.

Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: February 04, 2014 at 09:48 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. KT's Pot Arb Posted: February 05, 2014 at 02:12 AM (#4651861)
I don't like it, these huge, long deals make no sense, especially for a guy coming off his first year as an above average player, and he's been a below average player 2 out of the last 4 years, and a below replacement player one of those years. Giving how poorly first basemen age $135m is a bigger overpay than Pujols, since Albert was a far better player. The Braves are going to greatly regret being stuck paying a first basemen nearly $17m per year, sure that may not sound terribly bad but my main point is its an 8 year deal meaning they'll be on the hook until Freeman is almost, uh, 32?, Wait, that can't be right, let me double check that current age ...

Uh, never mind, nice deal Braves!
   2. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: February 05, 2014 at 02:23 AM (#4651863)
Seems like a reasonable gamble for the Bravos.
   3. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: February 05, 2014 at 03:25 AM (#4651869)
Will Chipper drive off in his ATV with a 10% finder's fee?
   4. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: February 05, 2014 at 08:17 AM (#4651884)
I think the Braves are very smart for tying up as many of their arb year players as possible before Mike Trout rewrites the arb comp lists.
   5. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: February 05, 2014 at 09:12 AM (#4651893)

I think the Braves are very smart for tying up as many of their arb year players as possible before Mike Trout rewrites the arb comp lists.


Did Ryan Howard have much of an impact on them? Vastly reduced player, but he did get some monster arb decisions.
   6. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: February 05, 2014 at 09:32 AM (#4651903)
Howard's deal clearly pushed them up a little. And there's a slew of young players ready to hit arb to push them up again. The Braves are keenly aware of this, due to having one of the pitchers going through that fight right now. Specifically Freeman was going to be going to arb the same years as Trout and Bryce Harper. The bar for "what players get in arb" will rise there.
   7. Joey B. is being stalked by a (Gonfa) loon Posted: February 05, 2014 at 11:22 AM (#4651966)
I don't like it, these huge, long deals make no sense, especially for a guy coming off his first year as an above average player, and he's been a below average player 2 out of the last 4 years, and a below replacement player one of those years.

Baseball Think Factory, ladies and gentlemen. When people aren't whining about how greedy and selfish all the owners are, they're whining about how all the huge megadeals being given out to average players don't make any sense.
   8. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: February 05, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4651987)
Looking at his stats, Freeman is better than I thought, but that still seems like a ton of money for him.
   9. Bitter Calculus Instructor Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:05 PM (#4651993)
The guy just had 5.4 WAR and a 144 OPS+ at age 23. Even if that's as food as he gets and he settles down as a 4 WAR player, this is a good deal. If he gets better, it's a steal.
   10. BourbonSamurai Is a Lazy Nogoodnik Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4651998)
The guy just had 5.4 WAR and a 144 OPS+ at age 23. Even if that's as food as he gets and he settles down as a 4 WAR player, this is a good deal. If he gets better, it's a steal.


Yeah, I guess. Maybe I just can't accept that a guy named Freddie Freeman is good. Seems like a made up name for baseball mogul guy.
   11. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:29 PM (#4652006)
Baseball Think Factory, ladies and gentlemen. When people aren't whining about how greedy and selfish all the owners are, they're whining about how all the huge megadeals being given out to average players don't make any sense.


Read the entire comment, #######. I know it's hard concentrating for five whole sentences, but *try.*
   12. Rickey! In a van on 95 south... Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4652016)
Yeah, I guess. Maybe I just can't accept that a guy named Freddie Freeman is good.


We all call him Huggy Bear.
   13. Rants Mulliniks Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4652018)
It takes some getting used to, but we are back in an era where its not completely silly to see a 1b with an OPS below .900 as a reasonable MVP candidate.
   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:47 PM (#4652026)
Maybe I just can't accept that a guy named Freddie Freeman is good.


Sounds like a great baseball player to me. A player with multiple All-Star appearances back in the fifties.
   15. dlf Posted: February 05, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4652028)
Proving I have zero scouting chops, I was completely wrong about Freeman. I saw him a bunch at AAA Gwinnett. I thought his swing was too long and that he started forward with the bat wrapped to far behind his head to ever make consistent contact. I wrote that frequently at Mac's Braves Journal site and occasionally here ... and subsequent events have proven me wrong.
   16. jingoist Posted: February 05, 2014 at 01:21 PM (#4652059)
!@#$%^&*()_+ Braves +_)(*&^%$#@

Cant you Atlanta folks screw up a few times and let the Nationals have a brief moment in the sunlight before you assume your rightful position atop the NL east?
I say rightful as its been your spot for the past 20 years give or take a brief Phillies run a while back.
Just when I begin to think Atlanta is semi-mortal they come up with another round of top-notch players.
I think Freeman could help the Braves for a very long time; good on ya Braves!
   17. Evil Twin Posted: February 05, 2014 at 09:30 PM (#4652396)

Maybe I just can't accept that a guy named Freddie Freeman is good. Seems like a made up name for baseball mogul guy.


Seems like the name of a superhero alter ego to me.
   18. Lars6788 Posted: February 06, 2014 at 01:44 AM (#4652478)
Is he similar would he be similar to Rafael Palmeiro?
   19. Squash Posted: February 06, 2014 at 02:55 AM (#4652490)
I think the Braves are very smart for tying up as many of their arb year players as possible before Mike Trout rewrites the arb comp lists.

Do we have any early bets on what Trout gets?
   20. CrosbyBird Posted: February 06, 2014 at 02:56 AM (#4652491)
This seems a little early to give such a big deal to Freeman. The Braves still have a good deal of time before FA and he's really only put up one full season worth the kind of contract he's getting.

I don't think the deal is so terrible if he's a year from FA, but for a player with less than 4 years of service time, it seems like assuming more risk than the Braves really need to.

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