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Thursday, October 04, 2012

Brennan: More restraint on alcohol in MLB celebrations

Newcombe-over effort.

Or we could ask about this: One of the Nationals celebrating Washington’s first postseason baseball appearance since 1933 was 19-year-old Bryce Harper, a Mormon who says he doesn’t drink alcohol. On Monday night, Harper was spotted hanging out with first baseman Adam LaRoche’s 9-year-old son Drake in a corner of the Nats’ clubhouse, celebrating with apple cider.

“I was drinking that,” Harper told The Washington Post. “Me and Drake were pouring that on top of each other.”

How could anyone imagine the scene of the two of them together, the baseball player and the boy, and not wish Norman Rockwell were still around to paint it?

But Harper also was pictured on the Nationals’ official Instagram page with a beer in hand while a group of teammates doused general manager Mike Rizzo. At least one other photo of Harper holding a Miller Lite and spraying it on teammates made it to Twitter.

...The stunning excess exhibited in these celebrations is perhaps the biggest problem of all. This isn’t a matter of just popping a cork or two or 10; this is an all-out, binged-up, beer and champagne blast. It would be one thing if it were being done in private, but it’s not. It’s there for all of us to see, and it will repeat itself over and over again in the coming weeks.

No one is going to put a stop to these celebrations, and no one should. Beer is just too important to baseball; it has been the lifeblood of the game’s financial foundation for generations. But MLB should tell teams to rein it in a bit—and definitely keep any teenager from holding anything stronger than apple cider.

Repoz Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:26 PM | 70 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:48 PM (#4254032)
If Harper wasn't Mormon, it'd still be stupid to care about a 19-year-old having a beer.
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:51 PM (#4254048)
But MLB should tell teams to rein it in a bit—and definitely keep any teenager from holding anything stronger than apple cider.


Yep, because no teenager in history has ever touched alcohol. How in the heck is this country, which has a love affair with booze stronger than their insane love affair with god, such a puritanical dick weed on this issue?

Celebrate, they are rich enough to enjoy a cab, just pull the cameras out of the locker room after the initial five minute celebration. No reason for that. MLB should really clamp down on that(reporters/cameras in the lockers), and should also require designated drivers, provided by the team, for these events/situations.
   3. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:52 PM (#4254049)
It would be one thing if it were being done in private, but it’s not.


Roger that. We'll be sure to keep the press out next time.
   4. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:55 PM (#4254060)
But Harper also was pictured on the Nationals’ official Instagram page with a beer in hand while a group of teammates doused general manager Mike Rizzo. At least one other photo of Harper holding a Miller Lite and spraying it on teammates made it to Twitter.


So he wasn't holding s beer.
   5. Traderdave Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:06 PM (#4254085)
I find the whole champagne ritual extremely trite and silly for anything other than a World Series win. Save the bubbly for that.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:08 PM (#4254093)
I find the whole champagne ritual extremely trite and silly for anything other than a World Series win. Save the bubbly for that.


Screw that. I find it silly for a wild card clincher, but for winning the division and championship series, it's definitely worth it. You don't get a chance to celebrate in life with that much unrestrained glee, why would anyone want to limit that option?
   7. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:10 PM (#4254099)
a Mormon who says he doesn't drink alcohol.

Translation: "I don't believe him, but calling him a liar would clearly be going too far, so I'm going to be a smart ass and phrase it in a way that implies he's probably lying without directly saying it."

If the so-called "mainstream media" wonder why so many of us think that they're scum, here's a picture perfect example of why.
   8. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:19 PM (#4254125)
Translation: "I don't believe him, but calling him a liar would clearly be going too far, so I'm going to be a smart ass and phrase it in a way that implies he's probably lying without directly saying it."

If the so-called "mainstream media" wonder why so many of us think that they're scum, here's a picture perfect example of why


Let's take him out and send him to rehab for five years for holding a beer during a pennant celebration, the lying SOB..Joey's interpretation is the same as mine, particularly given the writer, the loathsome Christine Brennan.
   9. pthomas Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:21 PM (#4254130)
Can you drink while you have a chaw in your cheek?
   10. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:22 PM (#4254133)
Every year they have these articles and every year I think could not possibly care less and then lo and behold, the next year, I care even less! It's remarkable.

I think some year a guy like Hamilton or Harper should attend the celebration in full SCUBA gear, with breathing apparatus, so they can freely party without being worried about even a drop of alcohol passing through their pores.
   11. JL Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4254136)
I find the whole champagne ritual extremely trite and silly for anything other than a World Series win. Save the bubbly for that.


My favorite baseball momement involved the 2006 Detroit Tigers running back onto the field, some with bubbly, and sharing with the fans after they clinched the AL Central. It was a great celebration.
   12. JL Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4254142)
Translation: "I don't believe him, but calling him a liar would clearly be going too far, so I'm going to be a smart ass and phrase it in a way that implies he's probably lying without directly saying it."

If the so-called "mainstream media" wonder why so many of us think that they're scum, here's a picture perfect example of why.


Considering there is a picture of him holding a Miller Lite, I think some doubt is warranted.
   13. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4254149)
First they came for the cocaine,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a coke addict.

Then they came for the steroids,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a user.

Then they came for the fried chicken and beer,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:27 PM (#4254150)
Considering there is a picture of him holding a Miller Lite, I think some doubt is warranted.


He's not holding it like someone drinking a beer.
   15. BDC Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:28 PM (#4254153)
I'm on record as thinking that the whole champagne business is overkill when you have to win three playoff rounds to become champion. Now it might be four, plus a regular-season clincher. At a certain point you might as well just pop the corks after taking 2 of 3 in Kansas City in July. Those games count too.

But I am not such a sour person as to begrudge guys some celebration. Knock yourselves out :)
   16. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4254158)
Considering there is a picture of him holding a Miller Lite, I think some doubt is warranted.

He was spraying beer on his teammates. Plenty of media people were around during the celebration; did any of them actually witness him drinking any alcohol? If so, then it's appropriate to call him out as a liar. If not, then just shut the f*ck up.

And as the first comment says, the fact that he's a Mormon really isn't important. The loathsome Christine Brennan could easily have left that irrelevant fact out of the story, but doing that wouldn't fit her agenda and get across the points she wants to make.
   17. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:31 PM (#4254159)
I find the whole champagne ritual extremely trite and silly for anything other than a World Series win. Save the bubbly for that.


The day I finished my last major project in college I went back to my room, grabbed a bottle of bubbly and jumped in the shower and poured it over my head while I jumped around and yelled. It was a lot of fun.
   18. OsunaSakata Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:33 PM (#4254165)
How do other sports celebrate short of a championship? I've seen NHL teams focused on a Stanley Cup accept a Conference Championship Trophy like it was a pee wee league participation ribbon.
   19. Wins Above Paul Westerberg Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:34 PM (#4254167)
My favorite baseball momement involved the 2006 Detroit Tigers running back onto the field, some with bubbly, and sharing with the fans after they clinched the AL Central. It was a great celebration.

I think you may want to check your 2006 AL Central winner.
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:39 PM (#4254178)
How do other sports celebrate short of a championship? I've seen NHL teams focused on a Stanley Cup accept a Conference Championship Trophy like it was a pee wee league participation ribbon.


Every time the Blues advanced(granted it wasn't often) they had a champagne celebration. I don't know how other teams handled it.
   21. Spectral Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:42 PM (#4254186)
I realize that someone will need a fainting couch for just about everything these days, but this is pretty amazing. It's quite bizarre to hear, "there's a couple people that can't or don't drink here, so get rid of all the booze".
   22. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4254196)
The loathsome Christine Brennan


Anybody out there want to share what makes Christine Brennan so loathsome? Right now, all I know about her is that Joey doesn't like her, and if anything that makes me favorably disposed toward her.
   23. JL Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4254211)
I think you may want to check your 2006 AL Central winner.

So my excuse is after the horrible 90 and early 00's, getting to the playoffs seemed like winning the Al Central.

Though since I am in fact check mode, I think it was the ALDS winning that I recall.
   24. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4254213)
True story: the nationals asked the local distributor to donate the champagne for the celebration but they wouldn't give anything back in return. Local distributor told them no.
   25. Spectral Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM (#4254214)
Anybody out there want to share what makes Christine Brennan so loathsome? Right now, all I know about her is that Joey doesn't like her, and if anything that makes me favorably disposed toward her.


I also know little or nothing of her, but a quick glance at her Wiki makes her seem like an admirable pioneer. I think I agree with your assessment.
   26. JL Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4254223)
He was spraying beer on his teammates. Plenty of media people were around during the celebration; did any of them actually witness him drinking any alcohol? If so, then it's appropriate to call him out as a liar. If not, then just shut the f*ck up.


She did not call him a liar. She noted his position because it was part of her story. You don't like it because you don't like her.

And as the first comment says, the fact that he's a Mormon really isn't important. The loathsome Christine Brennan could easily have left that irrelevant fact out of the story, but doing that wouldn't fit her agenda and get across the points she wants to make.


I disagree. I worked with a gentleman that was a devote Morman. He did not drink and was not in places were alcohol was served. Because of this, we worked to ensure that we could have get-togethers where he could attend from time to time, and not just default to standard happy hours. Mentioning that Harper is Morman supports Brennan's story.
   27. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:57 PM (#4254224)
How do other sports celebrate short of a championship? I've seen NHL teams focused on a Stanley Cup accept a Conference Championship Trophy like it was a pee wee league participation ribbon.


Part of that is the lack of tradition of meaning in those championships. Up until the last 15-20 years the pennant and division titles were almost as much a goal as the World Series itself. Also, the other three sports traditionally do their trophy presentations on the field of play rather than in the locker room.

As for the conference championship in hockey there is tradition in that celebration. Most teams will not touch the trophy at all, it just sits there at center ice with the team now supposedly focused on winning the Stanley Cup.
   28. Wins Above Paul Westerberg Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:03 PM (#4254231)
Though since I am in fact check mode, I think it was the ALDS winning that I recall.

It's just weird because I have that very memory from the Twins clinching the AL Central that year. After the Twins won their final game (they had already secured the Wild Card), fans stayed at the Dome as the "jumbotrons" played the conclusion of the Tigers-Royals game. The Tigers lost, meaning the Twins won the Central, and all the players came back onto the field to celebrate with the fans who waited. It was great.

The ALDS against Oakland? Not so much.
   29. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4254238)
The NHL tradition:

- anything other than the Stanley Cup is looked upon with disdain and disgust. Do not soil your hands with it, if possible.
- after the handshake, announcement, and handing of the Cup to the captain, spend then next 30 minutes skating around the ice to celebrate, handing it off to teammates, coaches, owners, and training staff. Everyone realizes immediately that it's a heavy ####### cup, especially after 10 weeks of grueling play and travel have sapped your strength.
- take the Cup into the dressing room, and begin champagne/beer insanity. There will be a lot of drinking from the Cup. Be sure you updated your tetanus and hepatitis shots during the finals.
- each player on the winning team gets a day with the Cup. Celebrate with your small town, friends, family, etc., including pictures of the Cup in interesting locations.
   30. Spectral Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4254239)
I disagree. I worked with a gentleman that was a devote Morman. He did not drink and was not in places were alcohol was served. Because of this, we worked to ensure that we could have get-togethers where he could attend from time to time, and not just default to standard happy hours. Mentioning that Harper is Morman supports Brennan's story.


I agree that mentioning Harper's religion is relevant to the story. That said, does anyone actually believe that one person choosing to not drink should actually result in knocking something off that everyone enjoys? It's probably worth mentioning that Harper didn't seem bothered (to put it lightly) by the means of celebration. He's been around plenty of clubhouses and seems like he really enjoys the atmosphere. It's possible to be a devout guy, follow your faith, and not crap on others having fun.

Harper joking about having cider with Laroche's kid entertained me, as a side note. I had a good friend that didn't drink that always put fruit juice in beer pong cups at parties.
   31. Swedish Chef Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:14 PM (#4254255)
She did not call him a liar. She noted his position because it was part of her story. You don't like it because you don't like her.

The insinuations about the photos is the bullshit part. If innuendo is what it takes to make your story fly, maybe you shouldn't write it in the first place.
   32. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:18 PM (#4254259)
Anybody out there want to share what makes Christine Brennan so loathsome? Right now, all I know about her is that Joey doesn't like her, and if anything that makes me favorably disposed toward her.


Improbably, Brennan has emerged as the media's most obnoxious commentator on the Erin Andrews saga, outdoing even Mariotti and Whitlock. First, she came dangerously close to saying Andrews was asking for it, telling one sports radio show:

If you trade off your sex appeal, if you trade off your looks, eventually you're going to lose those. She doesn't deserve what happened to her, but part of the shtick, seems to me, is being a little bit out there in a way that then are you encouraging the complete nutcase to drill a hole in your room


In other words, I'm not as hot as Erin, but I'm not a bimbo either. So she deserved it.
Other examples, but I have to do some work now :)
   33. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:21 PM (#4254272)
She did not call him a liar. She noted his position because it was part of her story. You don't like it because you don't like her.

It was implied without being directly stated, and no, his being a Mormon has absolutely no relevance to this "story" or to the general topic of champagne and beer celebrations in sports. Even if she or some other person had directly witnessed him drinking beer, proving that his claim that he doesn't drink alcohol is a lie, it STILL would say absolutely nothing about Mormonism, Mormons in general, or anyone else besides him for that matter.

   34. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:28 PM (#4254288)
Right now, all I know about her is that Joey doesn't like her, and if anything that makes me favorably disposed toward her.

Grow up, little child.
   35. JJ1986 Posted: October 04, 2012 at 03:36 PM (#4254309)
She noted his position because it was part of her story.


Noting his position would be: "a Mormon who doesn't drink alcohol."
   36. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:05 PM (#4254362)
Grow up, little child.


What? You have a reliable track record of being on the wrong side of every issue. Only a fool would ignore that sort of anti-lodestar.
   37. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:11 PM (#4254368)
Who gets to decide which side is the wrong side, unless we're talking about something obvious like throwing bags of puppies into oncoming traffic?
   38. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:16 PM (#4254377)
Who gets to decide which side is the wrong side, unless we're talking about something obvious like throwing bags of puppies into oncoming traffic?


Right. Everyone know you throw the puppies into traffic going the same way as you. That way the road is cleared because of less cars and you can get home quicker.
   39. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4254381)
38. Well done.
   40. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:22 PM (#4254385)
The radical anti-bag of puppy throwing lobby has had their own way long enough.
   41. Juan Uribe Marching and Chowder Society Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:24 PM (#4254390)
They've been pushing the Individual Puppy Mandate for a long time. They can't abide the thought of Multiple Puppies being thrown at once.
   42. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:31 PM (#4254401)
I like the drunken champagne and beer soaked celebrations. I wish I had a job where we had reasons to do stuff like that. Alas...
   43. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:34 PM (#4254408)
I like the drunken champagne and beer soaked celebrations. I wish I had a job where we had reasons to do stuff like that. Alas...
...I work for a hedge fund so we have to settle for cocaine. It's a tough life.
   44. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:38 PM (#4254416)
...I work for a hedge fund so we have to settle for cocaine. It's a tough life.

I think you may have a warped view of what kind a place I work at. These guys are horrified by just the IDEA of marijuana for crissakes.
   45. bigglou115 Posted: October 04, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4254449)
When I found out I passed the bar I over indulged in the bubbly. Worst hangover ever, I couldn't keep food down for two days. I say that so that you understand why I doubt these guys are really drinking a significant percentage of what they open.
   46. UCCF Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4254472)
I like the drunken champagne and beer soaked celebrations. I wish I had a job where we had reasons to do stuff like that. Alas...

I saw people drinking champagne at work today (celebrating a database milestone for some study or another). It looked like a nice break in the day...

Until I went to my next meeting and some woman was in complete outrage about such a thing. She said she had already filed a complaint with HR about this unprofessional behavior, and she hoped that this would be the end of it ever happening again. She was so mad she looked like she was going to cry.

Which I guess is one of many reasons why people don't get to drink champagne at work.
   47. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:08 PM (#4254478)
True story: the nationals asked the local distributor to donate the champagne for the celebration but they wouldn't give anything back in return. Local distributor told them no.

Oh really, who was the local distributor? I've got to be completely honest: I don't believe you. I think you're once again doing what you do best: making sh*t up, pulling it out of your ass, and trying to pass it off as a "true story", just like that bullsh*t you fabricated several weeks ago about Davey Johnson being an alcoholic.
   48. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4254480)
Oh really, who was the local distributor? I've got to be completely honest: I don't believe you. I think you're once again doing what you do best: making sh*t up, pulling it out of your ass, and trying to pass it off as a "true story", just like that bullsh*t you fabricated several weeks ago about Davey Johnson being an alcoholic.

Well, good for you.
   49. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:14 PM (#4254483)
Yep, just as I suspected.

Everyone out there reading this thread: do yourself a huge favor and don't make the mistake of actually believing the crap that comes out of McCoy's mouth. He is the biggest B.S. artist who posts on here by miles.
   50. JL Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:17 PM (#4254490)
It was implied without being directly stated, and no, his being a Mormon has absolutely no relevance to this "story" or to the general topic of champagne and beer celebrations in sports. Even if she or some other person had directly witnessed him drinking beer, proving that his claim that he doesn't drink alcohol is a lie, it STILL would say absolutely nothing about Mormonism, Mormons in general, or anyone else besides him for that matter.


Based on what? Sorry, but I need more than your say-so. I think it absolutely is relevant, as I noted. merely saying it is not and then implying some anti-Morman/Christian/religious crusade that you impute to the entire media is frankly not very convincing.
   51. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 05:18 PM (#4254491)
Yep, just as I suspected.

Everyone out there reading this thread: do yourself a huge favor and don't make the mistake of actually believing the crap that comes out of McCoy's mouth. He is the biggest B.S. artist who posts on here by miles.



I think most people are going to find your statement comical. You've got to be the most sensitive douche I've ever run across on the internet. Either that or you live a very sheltered life if you not believing me when I say that Davey Johnson is an alcoholic and that the Nationals wanted a distributor to give them the champagne for free makes me the biggest B.S. artist on BTF. I mean that is some serious proof you got there.
   52. valuearbitrageur Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4254563)
I think you may have a warped view of what kind a place I work at. These guys are horrified by just the IDEA of marijuana for crissakes.


I have news for you. These rat bastards are holding out on you, they are party monsters.

The reason they don't invite you is because you are doing all their work.

And I'm sick and tired of this apple cider drinking, off day softball playing, 5 WAR 19 year old showing up the league with his showboating and shoving his faith and sobriety down everyone's throat.

LOL.
   53. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:26 PM (#4254573)
I feel like by the time 5pm rolls around at my new job I fell that I deserve a champagne celebration.
   54. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:36 PM (#4254582)
I mean that is some serious proof you got there.


<<<RING>>>

<<<RING>>>

"Hello?"

"Hello, is this the kettle?"

"Yes."

"This is the pot. Know what?"

"What?"

"You're black."
   55. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:42 PM (#4254592)
So I'm the pot calling the kettle black because I find it amusing that Joey claims I am the biggest BS artist on BTF because of two minor statements?

   56. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4254593)
Sigh. No, McCoy. You're the pot calling the kettle black because you mock him for having no proof, when you don't provide any for your own assertions.

The lengths you will go to deliberately miss the main point never cease to amaze me.
   57. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4254594)
Based on what? Sorry, but I need more than your say-so. I think it absolutely is relevant, as I noted. merely saying it is not and then implying some anti-Morman/Christian/religious crusade that you impute to the entire media is frankly not very convincing.

Frankly, you would be a lot more credible if you spelled the word Mormon properly. Three times now on this thread you have spelled it "Morman". Are you doing this on purpose?
   58. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 06:54 PM (#4254604)
Sigh. No, McCoy. You're the pot calling the kettle black because you mock him for having no proof, when you don't provide any for your own assertions.

The lengths you will go to deliberately miss the main point never cease to amaze me.


I'm sorry I missed your point. If I had to explain why I missed your point I would say it is because you were simply wrong. I mocked him because his proof of me being BTF's biggest BS artist is two extremely minor stories/opinions that he apparently does not believe are true or disagrees with me on my side of the opinion.

It's is also amusing to see the hyperbole that you are now bandying about. The lengths I will go to? My rebuttal to you was a one sentence statement. What length wouldn't have amazed you? See Spot run? You spent more time on your snark against me than I did in replying to it.
   59. Dan Evensen Posted: October 04, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4254655)
Devout Mormon checking in. There are a few of us lurking in the shadows of BBTF.

Honestly, though, I doubt Harper's religion would have been mentioned were it not for the political backdrop.

Rumor has it that Dennis Eckersley is Mormon (still looking for confirmation). I don't believe anybody in the media made a big deal out of his drinking exploits during his playing days.

Everyone out there reading this thread: do yourself a huge favor and don't make the mistake of actually believing the crap that comes out of McCoy's mouth. He is the biggest B.S. artist who posts on here by miles.

I've known this for several years.

Seriously, man, be prepared to be called out when you make bold, shocking statements on this forum. This isn't ESPN.com. You've been here long enough to know this. You were asked here specifically for proof, and then spent the rest of the thread upset that your reputation has been damaged because you never furnished said proof.
   60. McCoy Posted: October 04, 2012 at 08:44 PM (#4254665)
Seriously, man, be prepared to be called out when you make bold, shocking statements on this forum. This isn't ESPN.com. You've been here long enough to know this. You were asked here specifically for proof, and then spent the rest of the thread upset that your reputation has been damaged because you never furnished said proof.

Is this directed at me? I'm not upset that Joey B thinks anything negatively about me. I find it amusing. I also find it amusing that giving a name somehow turns it into proof. I relayed a story that I happen to know. If you don't want to believe it go right ahead and don't believe it but I'm not sure how me saying how it was Dunder, Dunder, and Mifflin that was the distributor turns it into a believable story. Joey B is sensitive little dude when it comes to the Washington Nationals and for whatever reason he cannot tolerate this amusing little tidbit to be true. As I said to him already, "well, good for you".

I also state that whenever a troll like Joey B demands something of me I tend not to comply with their demands and I'm especially not going to comply with his demands after the manner in which he asked for proof.


Anyway, what exactly did I say that was bold and shocking?
   61. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 04, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4254765)
Noting his position would be: "a Mormon who doesn't drink alcohol."

No, because you actually have no idea whether or not he drinks alcohol. He says he doesn't drink alcohol, so you report that's what he says. You're not insinuating anything other than that you don't have independent verification of the fact. This is Journalism 101.
   62. JL Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:48 AM (#4254883)
Frankly, you would be a lot more credible if you spelled the word Mormon properly. Three times now on this thread you have spelled it "Morman". Are you doing this on purpose?


I have no idea why I typed it that way. I know how to spell Mormon and it is not an obvious typo. That being said, not sure my spelling errors cancel out you logic errors, or even you inability to provide any explanation beyond hating Brennan.

   63. franoscar Posted: October 05, 2012 at 08:51 AM (#4254885)
What a bunch of bickering!

The Tigers hit well & pitched well to sweep the Oakland A's in the ALCS in 2006. Maybe that's a good omen. Go Tigers!

I think the best plan is to have some bottles of fuzzy juice too so everybody can have a toast.
   64. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: October 05, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4254997)
I'm sorry I missed your point. If I had to explain why I missed your point I would say it is because you were simply wrong. I mocked him because his proof of me being BTF's biggest BS artist is two extremely minor stories/opinions that he apparently does not believe are true or disagrees with me on my side of the opinion.

Which changes my point not one whit. It was just a jab at you, McCoy: you mocked him for not providing proof (or, if you prefer, bringing up two "minor" statements that he doesn't agree with, which clearly you feel does not equate proof), but you have provided no proof yourself. That's all. Any twelve-year-old would've figured my point out pretty easily, since (A) I specifically ONLY quoted your statement about his lack of proof, and (B) used a cliche (that has been around for at least one hundred years) in such a way as to be transparently obvious.
It's is also amusing to see the hyperbole that you are now bandying about. The lengths I will go to? My rebuttal to you was a one sentence statement. What length wouldn't have amazed you? See Spot run? You spent more time on your snark against me than I did in replying to it.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Do you not understand idioms? The remark was clearly just another jab at you, suggesting that you deliberately miss the point so that you can rant. The irony of your doing it yet again specifically on this topic is not lost on me.

"Hyperbole?" Bwa ha ha ha ha.
   65. McCoy Posted: October 05, 2012 at 10:56 AM (#4255031)
Die hard, Chris, die hard. I'm sure Joey B is real proud of you taking up his cause for him. How much longer would you like to quibble over something that doesn't involve you?
   66. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 05, 2012 at 11:19 AM (#4255063)
BBTF dick-measuring contests are always hilarious--I never understand why people take things so personally, especially when it's not even about them. The highlight was when we had a 1000-post thread on the legality of Andy's home video collection.

Let it go, fellas. You'll live longer and happier.
   67. hokieneer Posted: October 05, 2012 at 11:35 AM (#4255074)
I like the drunken champagne and beer soaked celebrations. I wish I had a job where we had reasons to do stuff like that. Alas...


The software company I work for used to be a subsidiary of a PR/Advertisement firm. Whenever the PR firm would land a big contract or retain a big contract, they would call everyone to the meeting room for a glass of bubbly. These events usually occurred between 10 and 11 am and would last for ~15 min, everyone would only have 1 glass and listen to how awesome so and so has been in landing the contract.

About 45 min later the President or a VP would be pushing the unfinished & unopened bottles around on a cart, refilling glasses and handing out bottles to whomever wanted them. It was commonplace to have consumed 3-5 glasses of champagne before lunch.

Those were the good days.
   68. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: October 05, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4255113)
Die hard, Chris, die hard. I'm sure Joey B is real proud of you taking up his cause for him. How much longer would you like to quibble over something that doesn't involve you?

Eh, I'm done. The fact that you think I was taking up Joey B's cause is so hilarious I can't concentrate anymore.
   69. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: October 05, 2012 at 12:17 PM (#4255116)
The software company I work for used to be a subsidiary of a PR/Advertisement firm. Whenever the PR firm would land a big contract or retain a big contract, they would call everyone to the meeting room for a glass of bubbly. These events usually occurred between 10 and 11 am and would last for ~15 min, everyone would only have 1 glass and listen to how awesome so and so has been in landing the contract.

About 45 min later the President or a VP would be pushing the unfinished & unopened bottles around on a cart, refilling glasses and handing out bottles to whomever wanted them. It was commonplace to have consumed 3-5 glasses of champagne before lunch.

Those were the good days.

Back in the early-mid 90's I worked for a small-ish (~150-250 employees) biotech company. Once a month, on a Friday, they'd hold what they called "soiree." Work stopped around 2:30 or so. They brought in food -- lots of pizzas, or giant Togos sandwiches, or whatever -- and served beer on tap. (Sodas, water and wine were also available, but the vast majority of employees lined up with Solo cups for the beer.) We'd then spend the next couple of hours stuffing our faces and getting pleasantly buzzed.

Everyone participated, so it was not uncommon to end up in line next to the CEO (or another exec) and just chat about whatever.

That was a great job.
   70. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 05, 2012 at 02:03 PM (#4255239)
The #### did I just read?

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