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Tuesday, February 19, 2019

Brewers’ plan is to move Moustakas to second base and keep Shaw at third


Jim Furtado Posted: February 19, 2019 at 06:37 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Master of the Horse Posted: February 19, 2019 at 03:13 PM (#5816546)
Really fascinating how Brewers leadership gets veteran players to agree to take on more challenging defensive responsibilities. Is this Stearns pitching? Counsell? Both? Someone else? Some serious sales action, right?
   2. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: February 19, 2019 at 03:35 PM (#5816561)
I really struggle to see how this is a better idea than say.... Dozier at basically the same price. Or hell, LeMahieu.

But whatever... Treating their offseason OF plans like an all-you-can-eat buffet didn't make sense to me last season, either, and I guess that turned out to be utterly genius, so what do I know.
   3. Davo cant be eatin thirty hot dogs every day Posted: February 19, 2019 at 03:38 PM (#5816562)
My sense as a fan from watching Moose Tacos all these years in KC is that his strongest attribute on defense was his extremely strong and reliable arm. He never really seemed to have a great deal of range.

Which....makes second base kinda weird to me, as it neutralized his strongest asset and exposes his biggest weakness.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: February 19, 2019 at 03:53 PM (#5816571)
I vote for Moose at 1B and Aguilar at SS. I'd also like to see them replace Cain with Thames in CF.
   5. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: February 19, 2019 at 04:12 PM (#5816577)
I vote for Moose at 1B and Aguilar at SS. I'd also like to see them replace Cain with Thames in CF. which, case I have zero doubt they'd win 110 games.
   6. Master of the Horse Posted: February 19, 2019 at 04:48 PM (#5816595)
2--Dozier sucks. Sure he played hurt last season but even when he was healthy his offense is being a dead pull hitter. 32 in May. So his quick twitch is slowing, he's coming back from injury and now he either sit on a zone to pull a pitch or get lucky. This works, what, half a season? Less? And he's righty and the Brewers place a premium on lefty power. Dozier is a terrible fit. And I am not a Moose lover but his profile works better for the Crew. He's younger, lefty hitter with power and no recent injury.
   7. Zach Posted: February 19, 2019 at 05:19 PM (#5816613)
In all his years in KC, which included some pretty bad years from Omar Infante, I can't say that I ever thought of putting Moose at second base.

You're going to be looking out there and saying "why is that third baseman playing so far off the line?"
   8. Davo cant be eatin thirty hot dogs every day Posted: February 19, 2019 at 07:39 PM (#5816658)
I distinctly recall this game, where KC’s starting second baseman ( Omar Infante) and to replace him they....they put Danny freakin Valencia at second before moving Mike Moustakas there. Danny Valencia! The guy who’s a poor fielder for a DH!
   9. Zonk Totally Exonerated by Total BS Posted: February 19, 2019 at 08:07 PM (#5816664)
It might be worth wondering if shifts and pretty hardcore video analysis and defensive metrics have made it possible for teams to figure positions only matter on the fringes.

A good 15+ years ago, I remember trading some emails with a couple of the (then-) BPro guys on position scarcity values (in roto sense)... as such things always do, it devolved into your standard "limits of fantasy baseball, blah blah blah" and the subject of absolute value came up. Without looking up the conversation, there was a convincing "what if" to be made that a team playing premium bats badly out of position *might* be superior if the relative position modifiers reached a certain point.

I think this is kind of neat for the next generation of baseball.... I mean, players have long been judged on our traditional thinking about 7 absolute positions, setting aside the battery.

If my mid/latter adult and retirement years see the transition of 1B/2B/SS/3B/LF/CF/RF to "Roamer-weak/Roamer-strong/OF/IF quick/IF slow" or whatever? I think that's actually pretty cool.

I imagine - should such come to pass - we'll have arguments galore about how awful it is and whatever.... but I think this is the great beauty of baseball: So I get 7 guys on the diamond and I can deploy them as I wish? Endless possibilities. It fits with the lack of a game clock.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: February 19, 2019 at 10:38 PM (#5816696)
That's kinda how I feel when I read about the NBA these days. (Haven't cared about the NBA for years but every now and then a story catches my eye.) Stretch forwards, the 6'11" Greek Freak's b-r page puts him at 4 positions and 6'10" Ben Simmons is a point guard.

It does seem likely that baseball pitching splits and defensive stats are going to have to deal with this at some point. Openers will mess up the start/relief split. Defensively, is the guy in short RF on a shift the 2B or a roamer and what if he's the 3B? Statcast has already kinda dealt with this for OFs, measuring everybody against a single average and calculating difficulty based on distance and hang time. (From a WAR perspective, that would shift runs away from Rpos and towards Rfield.) But we're a few years into statcast now and, as far as I know, we still have no useful summary data for IFs.

   11. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: February 19, 2019 at 11:03 PM (#5816700)
You're going to be looking out there and saying "why is that third baseman playing so far off the line?"

Maybe they're planning on shifting vs every batter.
   12. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 19, 2019 at 11:25 PM (#5816705)
If your 2Bman is going to spend half his time catching liners in short right field, maybe Moose can handle it.

I do find the challenging of historical positions to be a fascinating development.
   13. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 20, 2019 at 12:29 AM (#5816710)
Sadly, because baseball is run by retrogressive idiots, they're about to legislate out both openers and shifts.

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