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Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Brewers trade McGehee to Pirates for Veras

Trade of potential non-tenders.

The Brewers acquired reliever Jose Veras from the Pirates for infielder Casey McGehee, the teams announced.

Pirates presumably want a hedge in the event that Alvarez’s development continues to stall - or possibly to move Pedro to first. Brewers continue to add bullpen pieces.

Mike Emeigh Posted: December 13, 2011 at 01:55 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The District Attorney Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:09 AM (#4014674)
Jose Veras is only 31? I must be thinking of another guy.

At least this forecloses the frightening possibility of Casey McGehee replacing Prince Fielder.
   2. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:10 AM (#4014676)
What a wonderful day for Harvey.
   3. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:21 AM (#4014689)
How bad is Pedro Alverez if Casey McGehee is the insurance?
   4. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:25 AM (#4014692)
If you are the Pitarea, why?

PNC has a dep left field

Casey only homers to left

Casey pretty poor at third and Pirates pitchers put balls in play

What's the point?
   5. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:31 AM (#4014699)
I saw the headline and immediately wondered why the Pirates were carrying Quilvio Veras.

So, I'm getting old now.
   6. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:36 AM (#4014701)
What's the point?


I guess negotiations stalled with the top prize on the free agent market Wilson Betemit, so they needed to bring in another sort-of-well-known player that fans have either vaguely heard of but aren't sure who he is, or have heard of and think he sucks. The same old Pirates strategy for kindling excitement.
   7. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#4014703)
What's the point?


This is about Alvarez, not McGehee. The Pirates are doing what they've done with their younger, underperforming players in the past; bring in a veteran "name" who has experience as a starter to "push" him so that he doesn't take his job for granted. Usually that has the opposite effect of what the team intends, though.

-- MWE
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:38 AM (#4014705)
Nate McLouth? Erik Bedard? Casey McGehee? The Drive for 75 - 2012 EDITION!
   9. Spahn Insane Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:41 AM (#4014708)
Shockwaves, Part Deux
   10. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:42 AM (#4014709)
McCutchen has got to be thinking "Get me out of here!".
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:43 AM (#4014710)
Ahhhh, there is no point

Those sly dogs
   12. McCoy Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:43 AM (#4014711)
It seems like just a few months ago when people thought the Pirates were going to be a factor in the NL Central pretty soon. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
   13. Phil Coorey. Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:45 AM (#4014714)
What a wonderful day for Harvey.


That's what I thought when I saw the headline as well!!!
   14. Dan The Mediocre is one of "the rest" Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:46 AM (#4014715)
This is about Alvarez, not McGehee. The Pirates are doing what they've done with their younger, underperforming players in the past; bring in a veteran "name" who has experience as a starter to "push" him so that he doesn't take his job for granted. Usually that has the opposite effect of what the team intends, though.


I guess the Cubs just have to wait a few years for their next long-term 3B!
   15. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:48 AM (#4014716)
I guess the Cubs just have to wait a few years for their next long-term 3B!

Who is the current version of Bobby Hill? Josh Vitters?
   16. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 13, 2011 at 02:52 AM (#4014720)
Mike Emeigh makes a good point. This trade will also have the salutary effect of not actually pushing Alvarez to justify his place in the lineup. At least McGehee isn't a one-year rental (becomes a free agent after 2014), so hopefully this works out better than the strategy to get the best out of that underachieving Jose Bautista by bringing in Doug Mientkiewicz. Or the previous effort to motivate Freddy Sanchez and Bautista simultaneously by giving their playing time to Joe Randa.
   17. base ball chick Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:09 AM (#4014731)
same shtt, different year. the more things change the more they remain the same
   18. I Am Not a Number Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:11 AM (#4014734)
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

And the boss before him... and before him... and...
   19. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:17 AM (#4014739)
I don't mean to an ass, but who bats cleanup for this team? McCutchin should obviously be hitting third, but who's 4th? Walker? Alverez? (gulp) McGehee?
   20. Zonk is Just the Right Amount of Wrought Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:42 AM (#4014753)
I saw the headline and immediately wondered why the Pirates were carrying Quilvio Veras.

So, I'm getting old now.


Heh, ditto -- then I thought "No, it's not him... Is this Dave Veres just misspelled? No - I think he's older than Quilvio." Then I told some kids to get off my lawn. Now I'm having a nice glass of warm milk.
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 13, 2011 at 04:18 AM (#4014768)
Nate McLouth? Erik Bedard? Casey McGehee? The Drive for 75 - 2012 EDITION!


Bedard is a replacement for a different (and more expensive) veteran starter, Paul Maholm, and McLouth is going to be a bench player. Neither one is blocking a ML-ready young player. As such, your scorn is unwarranted.
   22. como10 Posted: December 13, 2011 at 04:32 AM (#4014773)
I don't really see how one can criticize the McGehee acquisition. It's not a monumental move, but it certainly beats heading into the season with Josh Harrison as your backup to Alvarez.

I'd be happier if they locked up McCutchen. Or if Alvarez developed. Or if they'd pay money to bring in a legitimate above-average major league starting player. But that's not to say this is a bad trade. It isn't.
   23. Andere Richtingen Posted: December 13, 2011 at 06:12 AM (#4014812)
I saw the headline and immediately wondered why the Pirates were carrying Quilvio Veras.

So, I'm getting old now.


To confirm your suspicion, I reacted the same way.
   24. MM1f Posted: December 13, 2011 at 06:36 AM (#4014816)
Jose Veras is only 31? I must be thinking of another guy.


I think you were thinking of the right guy. It seems like Jose has been around forever.
   25. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 13, 2011 at 01:58 PM (#4014897)
For those not aware after his solid 2010 the Brewers offered Casey a multi-year deal. McGehee declined and settled for a year.
   26. Weeks T. Olive Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:34 PM (#4015008)
For those not aware after his solid 2010 the Brewers offered Casey a multi-year deal. McGehee declined and settled for a year.

Seriously? Wow. He got some really bad advice from someone.

Given his age, skill set, the time it took him to get to the majors, and his family situation, he should have been looking/should be looking for all of the guaranteed money he could get.
   27. The District Attorney Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:42 PM (#4015023)
I think you were thinking of the right guy. It seems like Jose has been around forever.
Now that someone mentioned him, I think I was thinking of Dave Veres. But it could be.
   28. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: December 13, 2011 at 03:57 PM (#4015047)
Given his age, skill set, the time it took him to get to the majors, and his family situation, he should have been looking/should be looking for all of the guaranteed money he could get.

Not 100% certain but my guess is that Casey figured his next contract would be his best chance to score big so he figured another 2010 and he could really rake in the cash.

That's what I suspect anyway.
   29. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: December 15, 2011 at 01:33 AM (#4016760)
Casey only homers to left

I don't think that's true. He can drive the ball to right decently. Check out HitTracker.

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