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Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Brewers win despite injuries

Only injured players Ryan Braun and Jean Segura were left on the bench by game’s end and every reliever in the bullpen other than seldom-used Wei-Chung Wang saw action in the game. Third baseman Aramis Ramirez (bruised elbow) joined the casualty list before the night was done but the Brewers still found a way to prevail.

This blog entry is more interesting than the game recap.  and it highlights the dumb nickname convention that exists in baseball today.  just horrible.  you want to know why there are no good nicknames?  because managers speak in baby talk toward their players.  rami?  RAMI???

Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 07:53 AM | 26 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 29, 2014 at 08:45 AM (#4696422)
This blog entry is more interesting than the game recap. and it highlights the dumb nickname convention that exists in baseball today. just horrible. you want to know why there are no good nicknames? because managers speak in baby talk toward their players. rami? RAMI???


Terry Francona has this art mastered. Even Adrian Gonzalez was "Gonzi" rather than "Gonzo". I'm 98% convinced he doesn't actually know the real names of the players.
   2. salvomania Posted: April 29, 2014 at 09:10 AM (#4696446)
What TFE doesn't mention is that Ramirez's HBP came with the bases loaded and two outs, and two strikes, and it drove in the game-tying run that led to extra innings.

On an earlier Ramirez HBP and another one, also earlier, to Carlos Gomez, the batters were in the act of swinging at inside pitches that then clipped their hands. In the case of Ramirez, the replay suggested that the ball hit nothing but bat. It's not the first time this season I've noticed batters being awarded first on pitches that hit them even as they appeared to swing at the pitch.

EDIT: A quick check reveals that the Brewers lead the league in being HBP, and I'm not surprised, watching their approach.
   3. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM (#4696511)
salvo

certainly a team as smart as the cardinals know that the tradeoff to pitching inside is the occasional struck batter.

and oddly enough the next two teams right there with the brewers in hit batters are the pirates and the reds.

and even more strangely, the team that leads the league in hit batters by pitchers is the st Louis cardinals.

and these teams have all played one another early in the season

what an amazing coincidence

(rolls eyes)
   4. base ball chick Posted: April 29, 2014 at 10:54 AM (#4696544)
EVERY manager/announcer has mastered the art form of playing mommy to their little boys' namesie-poos

i wonder if the actual ballplayers call each other by those stupid baby names when there is no media around
   5. salvomania Posted: April 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4696580)
Harvs, I'm just wondering what it takes for a batter to be considered "offering at a pitch" when he swings at a pitch and it hits him.
   6. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4696598)
salvo

here is the rule on the hit batter.

The batter becomes a runner and is entitled to first base without liability to be put out (provided he advances to and touches first base) when --
(a) Four ?balls? have been called by the umpire;
Rule 6.08(a) Comment: A batter who is entitled to first base because of a base on balls must go to first base and touch the base before other base runners are forced to advance. This applies when bases are full and applies when a substitute runner is put into the game.
If, in advancing, the base runner thinks there is a play and he slides past the base before or after touching it he may be put out by the fielder tagging him. If he fails to touch the base to which he is entitled and attempts to advance beyond that base he may be put out by tagging him or the base he missed.
(b) He is touched by a pitched ball which he is not attempting to hit unless (1) The ball is in the strike zone when it touches the batter, or (2) The batter makes no attempt to avoid being touched by the ball;
If the ball is in the strike zone when it touches the batter, it shall be called a strike, whether or not the batter tries to avoid the ball. If the ball is outside the strike zone when it touches the batter, it shall be called a ball if he makes no attempt to avoid being touched.
   7. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:07 PM (#4696615)
I got a Fantasy Alert stating that Matt Carpenter played the outfield. These short benches make extra inning games really odd.
   8. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:11 PM (#4696619)
davo

you missed martin maldonado's imitation of a bear trying to catch a fish. the brewers used up overbay as a pinch hitter not realizing that ramirez could not play third due to injury. so reynolds went to third and mm took over at first base.

it was.................fascinating
   9. base ball chick Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:15 PM (#4696624)
yeh, matt carpenter "played" the OF - jeezus - didn't get anywheres NEAR a FB that went for a triple. i would say that a good RF would have been
1 - better positioned
2 - faster
3 - a good bet to CATCH that fly ball

they would have done better sending a pitcher out there.
   10. salvomania Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:17 PM (#4696627)
Harvs, what about being touched by a pitched ball he is attempting to hit?

Points 1 and 2 above only pertain to a pitched ball he is not attempting to hit, whether or not the pitch is in or out of the strike zone.

I looked back at the HBPs and both of Ramirez's---especially the second one---were clear-cut, no-question HBPs. But Gomez's, if it hadn't (maybe) grazed his hand, would have been a foul ball.

   11. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:22 PM (#4696631)
Harvs, what about being touched by a pitched ball he is attempting to hit?


That's a deadball strike. And attempting to hit is defined the same way one would determine if a swing was checked. If so, he wasn't, and it's an HBP.

Of course, this kind of murky ground only reinforces my belief that the HBP rules need to be changed. If a batter is hit by a ball inside the box, it's an HBP regardless whether he tries to get out of the way (unless he swings). If it's outside the batter's box, it's a ball (unless he swings).

   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4696633)
Only injured players Ryan Braun and Jean Segura were left on the bench


Surprised Segura made it out alive.
   13. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4696643)
as shared above it's the ump's call.

and again, it's a tradeoff for opposing teams. the hacker ways of the crew make them easier to get outs. if every so often they swing into a hit batter situation won't every team take that tradeoff? do you want the brewers being more patient and not swinging as often?

from the opposing team's vantage point i doubt it
   14. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4696659)
every reliever in the bullpen other than seldom-used Wei-Chung Wang saw action in the game


How long are the Brewers going to try and carry Wang? I saw him pitch when they played against the Pirates a couple weeks ago, and while he has decent enough stuff, he's very obviously not ready for that level of competition and he pretty much got thrashed from pillar to post.
   15. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4696660)
they would have done better sending a pitcher out there.


Yeah, no kidding. At least pitchers have some experience from shagging fly balls during warmups.
   16. salvomania Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4696663)
Harv's, all else aside, I think the Brewers---especially their pitching---look really good.

They thoroughly outplayed the Cardinals last night, not least by avoiding doing stupid things, which goes a long way towards winning ball games.

Segura's out, and Bianchi makes a couple really nice plays, including one in which he ended a rally by stopping a grounder up the middle and getting a force; on a similarly hit ball by Overbay, Peralta could only wave at it.

Probably the most egregious move was, with no one out in the 10th after Holliday's leadoff double, Bourjos bunting directly to Ramirez---playing about 50 feet from home---for the easy out at 3rd.
   17. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4696672)
Harv's, all else aside, I think the Brewers---especially their pitching---look really good.

really good pitching forgives a lot of sins.

the brewers run into all kinds of outs on the bases

the hitters' control of the strike zone is borderline non-existent

the manager is very reluctant to let relievers pitch beyond an inning and is pushing several of his relievers VERY hard early (Smith/rodriguez)

i keep asking this forum if the brewers defense is better than the perception. because while they cannot turn a double play worth a d8mn the team is turning batted balls into outs. i wonder if the brewers are having a 2013 pirates season. hit homers, play defesne, don't walk anyone
   18. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 29, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4696675)
peralta is done as a shortstop. the cards are going to cost themselves 2-3 games playing that guy at short.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: April 29, 2014 at 01:05 PM (#4696684)

Yeah, no kidding. At least pitchers have some experience from shagging fly balls during warmups.


Versus Carpenters 24 major league games in the outfield.
Carpenter was playing where he was told to play, it was probably too shallow, but the results would have been the same with an average fielder out there in that same spot.
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: April 29, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4696688)
peralta is done as a shortstop. the cards are going to cost themselves 2-3 games playing that guy at short.


That is a little high, he's got average range, stable hands, and a decent arm, he doesn't have exceptional range or instincts, but he isn't that bad.


   21. base ball chick Posted: April 29, 2014 at 01:53 PM (#4696730)
you can have 24 major league games in the OF without having any real action come your way. a few dead easy grounders, a few cans of corn, a FB to right CF that the CF goes to get

even roy owsalt played a better inning in the OF. and i personally could outrun carpenter and he's WELL over twice my size
   22. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: April 29, 2014 at 03:55 PM (#4696893)
I got a Fantasy Alert stating that Matt Carpenter played the outfield. These short benches make extra inning games really odd.


Sorry to be so lame, but what Fantasy Alert system are you using? I'm generally about 2 steps behind everyone else in my league, and it's really cost me.
   23. Greg K Posted: April 29, 2014 at 04:10 PM (#4696912)
Nice to see Overbay's hitting so far. That guy's one of the good ones.
   24. Walt Davis Posted: April 30, 2014 at 01:47 AM (#4697273)
Just to make HW chuckle ... Peralta is +3 in Rfield already this year. Andrelton Simmons is only +2 so far.

Peralta's an odd career. I figured he was done as a SS 5 years ago but Detroit moved him back and the funny stats say he was about average.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM (#4697339)
even roy owsalt played a better inning in the OF. and i personally could outrun carpenter and he's WELL over twice my size


Are you sure you are thinking of the right Matt? Matt Adams is a sloth on the base paths, Carpenter is about average, to (maybe)slightly above average speed player.
   26. cardsfanboy Posted: April 30, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4697341)
Peralta is +3 in Rfield already this year. Andrelton Simmons is only +2 so far.


Peralta's positioning has been a major factor in his success. Nobody actually believes he's a plus defender (you can tell by watching him play...which is the same thing I have said about Jeter for the past decade plus...and people still pull "the difference between a good and bad defender is one play a week and eyes can't pick that up."----just want to punch those people.)

Peralta is Jeff Kent at second base or whoever you want that was a guy with fairly sure hands, not great range, but fairly good baseball head.

Of course the Cardinals defense has been a little weird so far this year (not looking at numbers) but the guys who were supposed to be good haven't or at least been shaky at times(Bourjos/Ellis) and the guys who were supposed to be bad have been good (Jay/Holliday/Craig) and then you have Matt Carpenter who was very good the first couple of weeks, then started royally sucking on that last road trip.... which is kinda what was expected, overall about average.

Looking at the numbers now...and Grichuk has a 2 rField already..that is a ridiculous number for a guy who has played 15 defensive innings. He's good, but he's not that good. (Yes sss curse and all)

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