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Monday, April 14, 2014

Brewers win ninth straight game behind dominant Lohse

from the article:  Lohse allowed one run on four singles and no walks, throwing 76 pitches for strikes and leading his team to a 10-2 record (best in baseball) in just two hours and 11 minutes.

really strong defensive work from the brewers this past weekend.  multiple nice plays all over the field both infield and outfield.  Reynolds started a nifty 3-6-3 double play on Friday night and logan Schafer made a beauty of a catch in left on sunday on an alvarez fly ball where logan crashed into the wall as he was making the catch.  just a really swell play

the only nuisance factor in the current winning streak is that ron has these guys still running into outs on the bases.  and the combination of gomez and sedar (3rd base coach) is sure to trigger another stroke as carlos is beyond eager to get the extra base and eddie has never met a preordained to fail dash to home plate he wasn’t willing to risk.

but go crew!

Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 08:24 AM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brewers, kyle lohse, milwaukee, winning is fun

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   1. deputydrew Posted: April 14, 2014 at 10:53 AM (#4685851)
I know he's not popular around here, but at some point we need to accept that Kyle Lohse is a good major league starter, right? Since the beginning of 2011 he's thrown 618 IP with an ERA of 3.19 and an ERA+ of 119. He might not blow batters away, but he gets the job done.
   2. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4685859)
dd

I don't think folks dispute the characterization. I think folks perceive lohse as seemingly generating the results but not necessarily supporting it with peripherals.

I know I always figured lohse would be effective until he abruptly is not. I don't anticipate lohse having a gradual decline.

but yesterday he showed me something I don't recall seeing before and that is a 75-78 mph pitch to lefties that fades back across the plate. it was the maddux fastball save not being fast.
   3. The District Attorney Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4685862)
the only nuisance factor in the current winning streak is that ron has these guys still running into outs on the bases.
Yeah, my friend noted that they have by far the best rate of taking extra bases as a team, and was wondering if that actually helped. I looked it up, and they had net negative WAR baserunning runs.

But it's fun to see the team do well; I think they're a quality organization, with a good fanbase. Lohse and Garza are solid, so I think if the other three SP do their part -- and all three of them are extremely talented, so there's no obvious reason why they can't -- and if Braun isn't done in by his thumb, they will be contenders. If it turns out Gomez (who let's not forget led the NL in bWAR last year) is a legitimate superstar, they even have room for error.
   4. JoeHova Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:14 AM (#4685866)
Encouraging start, to say the least. It's been mentioned a lot that the Brewers are off to their best start since starting 13-0 in 1987. What non-Brewers fans may not remember is that that team made it to 20-3 and then went on a 12 game losing streak and was under .500 by the midway point of the season. I'm really hoping this start works out better than the hot start in 1987 did. Of course, that team did finish 91-71, which would almost certainly make the playoffs this year, so maybe a repeat of that season wouldn't be the worst thing.
   5. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:14 AM (#4685867)
the only nuisance factor in the current winning streak is that ron has these guys still running into outs on the bases. and the combination of gomez and sedar (3rd base coach) is sure to trigger another stroke as carlos is beyond eager to get the extra base and eddie has never met a preordained to fail dash to home plate he wasn’t willing to risk.


There was play I think yesterday, maybe the day before, which was out of a little league bloopers reel. Gomez is on first and Segura lays down a great bunt. Gomez, for some reason, decides he'll he won't stop around third even though the bunt was fielded in the infield. He gets hung up between second and third, only to luck out as the pitcher throws the ball past the shortstop and second baseman. Still, for some reason the third base coach thinks this warrants Carlos should go for home, even though the ball didn't get go far past the infielders. Gomez is out by 5 feet at home. I take it it's plays like that you're talking about?

A brief note about the bullpen. K-Rod is looking like vintage K-Rod. It's an interesting development.
   6. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:20 AM (#4685871)
   7. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM (#4685877)
The Brewers have only given up 29 runs this year, easily the least in baseball. Oakland has given up 32, and Atlanta and Seattle have given up 33.
   8. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4685883)
so I think if the other three SP do their part -- and all three of them are extremely talented, so there's no obvious reason why they

Gallardo cannot get anyone to swing and miss. it's a bit alarming

if marco keeps the ball in the ballpark he will be fine

peralta was throwing 95 plus last Friday on a regular basis. that is something to watch. it's a step up on velocity
   9. valuearbitrageur Posted: April 14, 2014 at 11:45 AM (#4685890)
Imagine the look on Seligs face when he gives the World Series MVP trophy to Ryan Braun.
   10. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:09 PM (#4685906)
post-'87, this is closest we've come to free George Webb hamburgers, since the 2003 team, which won 10 in a row (in August) on a team that lost 94 games.
   11. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4685939)
Milwaukee plays st Louis mon/tues/wed after squeaking by Pittsburgh will be interesting to see how the team plays against the cardinals

   12. Urkel's Boner Posted: April 14, 2014 at 12:58 PM (#4685940)
post-'87, this is closest we've come to free George Webb hamburgers, since the 2003 team, which won 10 in a row (in August) on a team that lost 94 games.


Apparently Sobleman's will be giving away free burgers if they win 10 in a row. As much as I'd rather eat a free Sobleman's burger than a free George Webb burger (infinitely, basically), it's kind of lame of them to be trying to one-up the George Webb tradition. Also, how does a place that typically has a 45-minute wait to get seated manage to give away free burgers anyway, just dump them out into a mound on the sidewalk?
   13. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 14, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4685960)
I saw that (Sobelman's) and thought it was a joke. That's pretty weak, locking up with George Webb over this, especially for a quality place like Sobelman's. They should give out their bloody mary's instead.
   14. BDC Posted: April 14, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4685965)
Brewers win ninth straight game behind dominant Lohse

Talk about headlines nobody ever thought they would see :)
   15. Effervesoteric Posted: April 14, 2014 at 01:33 PM (#4685966)
The best part about the Brewers' hot streak is that now they have to beat the Cardinals in order to keep it going.

And when you defeat the St. Louis Cardinals, you are Doing God's Work. Let's go Crew!
   16. Davo Dozier Posted: April 14, 2014 at 02:02 PM (#4685989)
I know he's not popular around here, but at some point we need to accept that Kyle Lohse is a good major league starter, right?
NEVER!!!
   17. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 14, 2014 at 02:46 PM (#4686024)
I know he's not popular around here, but at some point we need to accept that Kyle Lohse is a good major league starter, right? Since the beginning of 2011 he's thrown 618 IP with an ERA of 3.19 and an ERA+ of 119. He might not blow batters away, but he gets the job done.
A year and a half later, I'm still angry the Angels decided they needed to hurry up and buy Joe Blanton four years after his last good season, while a perfectly good Kyle Lohse was just sitting there, waiting for someone to call.
   18. The District Attorney Posted: April 14, 2014 at 03:44 PM (#4686052)
the combination of gomez and sedar (3rd base coach) is sure to trigger another stroke as carlos is beyond eager to get the extra base and eddie has never met a preordained to fail dash to home plate he wasn’t willing to risk.
I think this comic sums up the situation nicely.
   19. Sunday silence Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:08 PM (#4686115)
can someone explain what happened in sat nights game with the Pirates? I know the game ended on a fine DP in the 9th but what about the 8th? I think Alvarez was batting with 2 guys on and the graphic on that MLB thingie that lets you watch the game had batter popping up to C and the runner on third out at home. I did not see what happened on the highlights. Was it a foul ball somewhat far from home plate? Was it a base running blunder? Thanks.

Also good luck to Harvey and his team.
   20. bfan Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:09 PM (#4686119)
well, congratulations to the Brewers who also figured out in the off-season that there are plenty of guys on the fringes of MLB who can flat out hit the baseball, and that 1B is not the place for a failing second baseman without pop. Mark Reynolds is going to hit a lot of HR and is going to walk a bunch too, and that, even with a .230 average, can be helpful to an offense. For all we have learned about how teams score runs, GMs sure still have a love-affair with .270 hitters who never walk; who get caught stealing enough to make their 10-15 SBs of zero value; and who look good in a uniform.
   21. JoeHova Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:29 PM (#4686132)
...who look good in a uniform.


This does not describe Yuni. I'm still so perplexed by 'Yuniesky Betancourt, Milwaukee 1st baseman.'
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:32 PM (#4686134)
I know he's not popular around here, but at some point we need to accept that Kyle Lohse is a good major league starter, right? Since the beginning of 2011 he's thrown 618 IP with an ERA of 3.19 and an ERA+ of 119. He might not blow batters away, but he gets the job done.


I've more or less always supported Lohse(except during his 59 era+ year..) I think he has taken a huge step forward that nobody really thought he would at his age, but there are more than a few pitchers in major league history who went from middling pitcher in their 20's to pretty good in their 30's. (Obviously he's not Randy Johnson)


Kyle Lohse is the subject of one of the most widely read things I ever wrote for THT.

And I always thought it was an article about a different Cardinal castoff, that was picked up by the Brewers, Suppan(not that the article was directly about Suppan, it was about era+ for different roles, but I've always assumed the dismissal of Suppan by Keith Law helped you form that study)

Of course it should be your excellent book.

   23. cardsfanboy Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:37 PM (#4686138)
This 9 game winning streak, hasn't been done against poor teams. I was thinking to see a Cub series in there, but it was against Atlanta(1 game) Boston, Philly and Pittsburgh..arguably 3 teams that several people picked to be in the post season.
   24. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:42 PM (#4686140)
I did not see what happened on the highlights. Was it a foul ball somewhat far from home plate? Was it a base running blunder? Thanks.

so Andrew is up with runners on first and third and one out and hits a HIIIIIGGGHHH foul pop up that is caught by lucroy. for a reason to be explained shortly the runner on first hightails it to second, lucroy thorws to shortstop covering at which point marte takes off for home and segura runs up on throw and returns throw to plate with pitcher covering and marte is nailed clean

--hurdle claimed after game that pirates did this on purpose to try and score marte
--that was some pitch by Henderson that jammed Andrew
--disturbing to learn after game that other brewers refer to segura as 'siggy'
   25. Davo Dozier Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4686143)
The FanGraphs playoff odds are interesting to track--just 12 games into the season, and the Brewers now have a significantly better chance of making the playoffs than the Reds (who've started 4-8).
   26. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 14, 2014 at 05:46 PM (#4686144)
GMs sure still have a love-affair with .270 hitters who never walk; who get caught stealing enough to make their 10-15 SBs of zero value; and who look good in a uniform

none of this applies to Betancourt and/or gonzalez. as a quick refresher the first 3 options for brewers first base all got hurt, other gms were looking to scr9w Melvin in a deal and ron insisted that he could make it work for the team which was lunacy but doug's biggest failing as a gm is believing/trusting in his managers on everything versus cutting through the fantasyland talk

and Reynolds would not be playing this much if he WASN'T hitting as well as he has. as soon as mark has some ugly 0-4 days with 3-4 strikeouts lyle overbay will be at first base. which will pain me and other brewer fans to no end

   27. Brian White Posted: April 14, 2014 at 07:26 PM (#4686182)
Fun fact - Milwaukee is one of two teams (Washington being the other) whose only losses are to Atlanta.
   28. Sunday silence Posted: April 14, 2014 at 10:57 PM (#4686282)
thank you for explaining all that, Harvey's. That would be very hard to understand w/o video, but I think you probably did quite well.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: April 15, 2014 at 06:48 PM (#4686596)
Also, per Rfield, Reynolds is a pretty terrible defensive 1B. 2011-13 he's had 1 WAR in over 1600 PA. And he costs $2M -- not worth worrying about but not some free AAAA slugger either.
   30. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: April 15, 2014 at 06:57 PM (#4686598)
none of this applies to Betancourt


Nothing applies to Yuniesky that makes sense- sure statheads hate him- but non-stathead fans of any team he plays on also hate him as well...

as a quick refresher the first 3 options for brewers first base all got hurt, other gms were looking to scr9w Melvin in a deal

Hunter Morris or Jasonn Rogers would have been a better option at 1B
   31. steagles Posted: April 15, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4686609)
I know he's not popular around here, but at some point we need to accept that Kyle Lohse is a good major league starter, right? Since the beginning of 2011 he's thrown 618 IP with an ERA of 3.19 and an ERA+ of 119. He might not blow batters away, but he gets the job done.

i believe the phillies had him in 2007, and he pitched well and i thought the phillies should resign him, but then he sat out half of 2008 until someone offered him a multi-year contract and the phillies won the world series and i never thought about him again until just now.

true story.

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