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Thursday, April 18, 2013

Brisbee: Pedro Alvarez: the most confusing hitter in baseball

Wait…I thought it was Matt Kemp.

As of the end of April 17: .089/.180/.089 in 50 plate appearances. He’s without an extra-base hit, obviously. He has four hits in 45 at-bats. He’s struck out in over a third of his plate appearances. If Alvarez is the most perplexing hitter in baseball, this wasn’t a perplexing start. It was simply awful. I went through the game logs, and just started tallying the plate appearances up. So instead of a narrative, you’re going to get a list of factoids.

  • In 31 of the 50 plate appearances, Alvarez didn’t see a pitch while ahead in the count.
  • He’s hit the ball out of the infield six times—four singles, a fly out to shallow left, and a fly out to center
  • In 33 of 50 plate appearances, he was at two strikes by the third pitch
  • He’s had a two-strike count against him in 38 of 50 plate appearances.
  • He’s put the ball in play three times while ahead in the count—a single, grounder to first, and pop out (all on 2-0 counts)
  • One of his singles was against Carlos Marmol, which doesn’t officially count
  • The farthest Alvarez has hit a ball this season is about 325 feet
  • The second farthest Alvarez has hit a ball this season is about 240 feet

Repoz Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:18 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4417744)
At least they're fortunate they didn't lock him up to one of those team-friendly $40 million contracts.
   2. Styles P. Deadball Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:31 AM (#4417751)
Well then, keeping him for $5 in my auction league wasn't my best move, was it?
   3. TomH Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:37 AM (#4417758)
Can Pedro hit .040?
Are the Pirates the new unmurderers row?
Does he secretly hate wearing the # 42 one day a year, and this is now causing him to choke?
Would he be better at hitting brown balls?
Will AAA fans throw peanuts at him, with he retaliating by charging the stands and being suspended?
Will Alvarez make Time Magazine's most influential top 100 list due out this month?

Do I need to get back to work?
   4. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:39 AM (#4417762)
Do I need to get back to work?

Only if your work doesn't involve the safety of others...
   5. Mike Emeigh Posted: April 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4417820)
What's confusing about it? Alvarez has no conception of the strike zone, and his pitch recognition skills are non-existent.

-- MWE
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM (#4417831)
There were a lot of Alex Gordon comparisons to Alvarez since they were both prolific college hitters who struck out a ton. Alex was kind of a late bloomer, but it took some messing with his swing to get him to make contact more.
   7. PerroX Posted: April 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM (#4417834)
Alvarez struggled for a long time last year before finally locking in. He's not the only hitter who has struggled the first couple of weeks of the season, but he's definitely streaky.
   8. JE (Jason) Posted: April 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM (#4417840)
The second farthest Alvarez has hit a ball this season is about 240 feet

In fairness, wouldn't that ball have hit the facade at Old Yankee Stadium? And were it not for the facade, wouldn't it have traveled 700 feet?
   9. Adward Posted: April 18, 2013 at 11:38 AM (#4417873)
The ball started out okay, but then it didn't go too far.
   10. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM (#4417935)
Can Pedro hit .040?
Are the Pirates the new unmurderers row?
Does he secretly hate wearing the # 42 one day a year, and this is now causing him to choke?
Would he be better at hitting brown balls?
Will AAA fans throw peanuts at him, with he retaliating by charging the stands and being suspended?
Will Alvarez make Time Magazine's most influential top 100 list due out this month?


What can MLB do to increase African-American interest in Pedro Alvarez?
   11. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4417954)
FWIW and possibly adding to the confusion, he was a monster in day games last year.
   12. Adward Posted: April 18, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4417963)
The edit button has a short lifespan, eh?

pitchfx
bbref

Brother1 was upset with third base line seats. Couldn't gauge the strike zone from that angle. Must be his deviant pitcher's blood. First extended at bat of the game. Took pitches inside, defended outside, repeat, walked. Odd at bat, err, plate appearance.

rumbunter: pedro alvarez needs to swing more

2011

Pedro had 235 at-bats last year. 65 of those at-bats ended on a pitch that was thrown with no balls and two strikes on him. 85 of those at-bats ended on a pitch that was thrown with one ball and two strikes. All-in-all Pedro got into a two strike count 138 times, which is 59% of the time.
   13. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 18, 2013 at 01:02 PM (#4417993)
Can any of you who sport awesome BB-Ref skills see if Alvarez has had streaks this bad before. I know he's streaky, but is he THIS streaky? Or is this just a new established level of suck for him?
   14. Walt Davis Posted: April 18, 2013 at 05:38 PM (#4418413)
One of his singles was against Carlos Marmol, which doesn’t officially count

Hey now! OK, fair enough for this year so far but despite Marmol's many, many, many flaws, he still doesn't give up many hits.

Can Pedro hit .040?
Are the Pirates the new unmurderers row?
Does he secretly hate wearing the # 42 one day a year, and this is now causing him to choke?
Would he be better at hitting brown balls?
Will AAA fans throw peanuts at him, with he retaliating by charging the stands and being suspended?
Will Alvarez make Time Magazine's most influential top 100 list due out this month?


Will he charge the mound or get busted for DUI or show up in the Biogenesis documents?

EDIT: That just made me realize how much I miss Szym ... in the good old days we'd have found out Billy authored the infamous Biogenesis documents.
   15. Dale Berra of Seville (was Rennie's Tenet) Posted: April 18, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4418466)
Will he charge the mound or get busted for DUI or show up in the Biogenesis documents?


And why does he wear his hat over his ears?
   16. DA Baracus Posted: April 18, 2013 at 08:27 PM (#4418591)
• The second farthest Alvarez has hit a ball this season is about 240 feet

I was just telling my GF about his hilarious lack of power and so of course on the very next pitch he hits it 400 feet over the CF wall.
   17. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 18, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4418624)
I'm afraid Pedro Alvarez is the hitting equivalent of Luke Hochevar. Good enough to stay on the team year after year, but bad enough to constantly make you sad that your team drafted him so high. A bust? I suppose.

Better than someone who just disappears without a trace, anyway.
   18. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 18, 2013 at 09:05 PM (#4418630)
He was a 3 WAR player last year. Hochevar doesn't have 1 WAR for his career. Alvarez isn't great, but let's not get all crazy now.
   19. JE (Jason) Posted: April 20, 2013 at 08:37 AM (#4420229)
After no-doubt blasts on consecutive days -- last night's dinger went some 430 feet -- may we say that Pedro Alvarez is now a wee bit less confusing?

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