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Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Bronson Arroyo bothered by ERA, not home runs

HA! He should have pitched during the .303 1930 National League seasohhhhh…

“I couldn’t care less how many home runs I give up in a season,” Arroyo said. “Having a five ERA (5.34) is going to bother me 30 times more than how those runs scored. If I gave up 100 homers this year and they were all solo shots and my ERA was 2.7, I’d be completely content.”

Arroyo is 8-12 with the aforementioned 5.34 ERA, his worst year since joining the Reds in 2006. Arroyo last season was 17-10 with a 3.88 ERA, setting a career high for wins.

Arroyo knows he is one of the main reasons the Reds failed to repeat as National League Central champions.

“This season was probably the first one in seven or eight years where I’m walking away from the game not satisfied with what I’ve done,” Arroyo said.

...Reds manager Dusty Baker said Arroyo will not be shut down, no matter how many homers he allows.

“You’re getting paid handsomely to work, not to not work,” Baker said.

Repoz Posted: September 20, 2011 at 08:35 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Paul D(uda) Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:01 PM (#3931147)
It would be a challenge to give up 100 HRs and have a good ERA these days.

EDIT: Well, maybe not. What's the upper end on innings for a pitcher today? 230, 250?
   2. zack Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:07 PM (#3931153)
The league leader is usually 240, 250 every other year or so. Verlander should get 250 this year.

No one has had 260 since the Big Unit in 2001 or 2002.
   3. BillP Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#3931169)
Yeah, he'd have to go about 334 innings to allow 100 solo homers and put up a 2.70 ERA. And that would be awesome.
   4. flournoy Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:20 PM (#3931173)
To be specific, to give up 100 runs (all on solo homers) and have an ERA of 2.70, he would need to pitch 333 1/3 innings.

EDIT: Too late.
   5. Steve Treder Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:32 PM (#3931189)
Yeah, he'd have to go about 334 innings to allow 100 solo homers and put up a 2.70 ERA. And that would be awesome.

Awesomely so. Why doesn't he just do it, instead of talking about it?
   6. Shock Posted: September 20, 2011 at 09:45 PM (#3931201)

No one has had 260 since the Big Unit in 2001 or 2002.


Halladay was 266 in 2003, although I s'pose you're limiting to NL.
   7. Karl from NY Posted: September 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM (#3931220)
To be specific, to give up 100 runs (all on solo homers) and have an ERA of 2.70, he would need to pitch 333 1/3 innings


Not if the runs scored on the solo homers were unearned. With 2 outs, suppose the batter hits a foul pop-up that gets dropped, then hits the solo HR. The inning should be over but for the error, so the run is unearned.
   8. Shock Posted: September 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM (#3931223)


Not if the runs scored on the solo homers were unearned. With 2 outs, suppose the batter hits a foul pop-up that gets dropped, then hits the solo HR. The inning should be over but for the error, so the run is unearned.


Too bad Luis Castillo retired.
   9. Crispix Attacks Posted: September 20, 2011 at 10:43 PM (#3931236)
Not if the runs scored on the solo homers were unearned. With 2 outs, suppose the batter hits a foul pop-up that gets dropped, then hits the solo HR. The inning should be over but for the error, so the run is unearned.

so theoretically if Verlander was pitching with nine Jeremy Giambis behind him, he could give up 100 home runs and have an ERA of zero.
   10. Accent Shallow Posted: September 20, 2011 at 11:07 PM (#3931255)
so theoretically if Verlander was pitching with nine Jeremy Giambis behind him, he could give up 100 home runs and have an ERA of zero.

Slide, Jeremy, slide! threw LH, you don't want him playing 3B, SS, or 2B.
   11. MM1f Posted: September 20, 2011 at 11:24 PM (#3931277)
Slide, Jeremy, slide! threw LH, you don't want him playing 3B, SS, or 2B.

...or any other position really
   12. Crispix Attacks Posted: September 20, 2011 at 11:29 PM (#3931288)
Not sure why I specified "Verlander" there.
   13. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: September 21, 2011 at 04:49 AM (#3931675)
so theoretically if Verlander was pitching with nine Jeremy Giambis behind him, he could give up 100 home runs and have an ERA of zero.


No, the umpires wouldn't allow his team to proceed with ten or eleven players on the field.

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