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Monday, July 09, 2012

Bryce Harper Interview

We had Bryce Harper on 106.7 The Fan today with ‘Holden and Danny.’ The best nuggets from Harper were about watching tape on Cole Hamels before he stole home on him and his explination on why he became so upset with the reporter who asked him the infamous clown question.

Here is Bryce on the ‘clown question’: “I give everything I can every single day and I don’t wanna go out, I don’t wanna party, I don’t wanna drink or anything like that,” Harper continued. “So, when someone asks me a question that, I think it’s a little disrespectful and, you know, it was the first thing that came to my mind. Like I said, my body is a temple and I’m not going to put anything in it that will affect me or the way I play because I want to give everything I can for this team and this city every single day.”

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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: July 09, 2012 at 06:53 PM (#4177498)
Most awesome answer ever. Good for him. I was mocking him a little before, but the clown question retort is gold. Good for him.
   2. Tripon Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:03 PM (#4177506)
Of course he's only 19. I bet that answer changes when he's 23 and actually have other guys on the team that want to hang out with him.
   3. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:14 PM (#4177520)
My take is that his want to party will dissipate as he ages, especially as he isn't making BIG money yet. But, I could be wrong. Either way, I was surprised with that response. When I was 19 I would have said, "Yo! Do you have a clown I can bang"....or some such nonsense. Good for him.
   4. Tripon Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4177524)
Jim, you think Clown girls are hot?
   5. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:22 PM (#4177528)
Of course he's only 19. I bet that answer changes when he's 23 and actually have other guys on the team that want to hang out with him.
Most Mormons tend to do a pretty good job of that whole "not drinking" thing, you know. Even the ones who are rich, famous, or high-profile athletes.

Actually, that's what I find more interesting about Harper's answer: his Mormon faith is the Dog That Didn't Bark here. I suspect he's getting PR advice from Boras and his crew about not discussing that aspect of his life too much right now, as he's trying to establish his credentials. Lot of weird political and social crosswinds blowing right now -- best to put it off to the side.
   6. Tripon Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4177537)
Eh, even Mormons party. You can still have a good time without alcohol.
   7. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:41 PM (#4177544)
You can still have a good time without alcohol.

That's a clown assertion, bro.
   8. Lassus Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:42 PM (#4177545)
You can still have a good time without alcohol.

Sex and rock & roll do just fine without the drugs, honestly.
   9. MNB Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4177549)
This is off topic, but I'm pretty sure federal court just told Lance Armstrong, "That's a clown lawsuit, bro."
   10. Tripon Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4177554)
Does shitty beer make beer pong, or does the community experience make the game?

Because really, Coors lite or Bud Light is just shitty beer to drink.
   11. Tripon Posted: July 09, 2012 at 07:56 PM (#4177555)
Does shitty beer make beer pong, or does the community experience make the game?

Because really, Coors lite or Bud Light is just a shitty beer to drink.
   12. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 09, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4177565)

Sex and rock & roll do just fine without the drugs, honestly.


I'm pretty sure Harper's not married, which leaves him with just the rock & roll.
   13. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 09, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4177608)
I'm pretty sure Harper's not married, which leaves him with just the rock & roll.


There is absolutely no such thing as Mormon rock & roll.
   14. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: July 09, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4177620)
I blame Romney.
   15. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 09, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4177655)
The closest you're going to get is straight-edge, but Bryce Harper is no Ian MacKaye.
   16. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 09, 2012 at 09:05 PM (#4177679)
There is absolutely no such thing as Mormon rock & roll.

Hey, The Killers were rock & roll for a while there.
   17. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: July 09, 2012 at 09:06 PM (#4177682)
There is absolutely no such thing as Mormon rock & roll.


C'mon, Donny was a little bit rock and roll. Or maybe that was Marie.
   18. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 09, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4177702)
Hey, The Killers were rock & roll for a while there.


For such time as they were rock & roll, The Killers were not Mormon. There is no such thing as Mormon rock & roll. You might as well be talking about Hasidic country & western.
   19. Steve Treder Posted: July 09, 2012 at 10:02 PM (#4177835)
Islamic smooth jazz!
   20. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 09, 2012 at 10:32 PM (#4177901)
I always preferred Amish metal
(but that's just me)
   21. boteman Posted: July 09, 2012 at 11:15 PM (#4177977)
I have it on good authority that the Amish boys sneak into the Big City to party down, then sneak home and resume respectful lives of temperance.
   22. tshipman Posted: July 09, 2012 at 11:28 PM (#4177988)
Islamic smooth jazz!


Didn't Miles Davis or someone convert?

Looked it up. No. I was thinking of Coltrane, who married a Muslim woman, and eventually got weird and spiritual, but did not convert to Islam.

There is a fairly good tradition of Islamic jazz, though.
   23.     Hey Gurl Posted: July 09, 2012 at 11:42 PM (#4178000)
I am beginning to not like this guy.
   24. Orangepeel Posted: July 09, 2012 at 11:46 PM (#4178003)
I had absolutely no idea Bryce Harper is Mormon. It is really interesting, and impressive in a way, that he didn't mention that here, and instead gave this baseball-related reason. Honestly, if you think that the reporter should have known that Harper is Mormon, that really is an absolutely garbage question.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4178013)
Wait, when is he going to do his Mormon mission? That would be incredible if he took two years off in his mid 20s in order to proselytize in Fiji.
   26. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM (#4178015)
I had absolutely no idea Bryce Harper is Mormon.

Neither did I, nor should we give a flying f*ck. The last thing I ever want to hear is what someone else believes. Your religious leanings should be a personal matter, it's rather boorish to quote and parade your idealogy all over the front pages. The kid is showing some class by not bringing it up.
   27. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:13 AM (#4178020)
that's a clown religion, bro
   28. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM (#4178029)
Neither did I, nor should we give a flying f*ck. The last thing I ever want to hear is what someone else believes. Your religious leanings should be a personal matter, it's rather boorish to quote and parade your idealogy all over the front pages. The kid is showing some class by not bringing it up.


But isn't "bringing it up" a pretty big feature in the LDS Church? The two-year mission isn't Rumspringa for Mormons.

   29. TerpNats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM (#4178030)
I don't believe Dale Murphy (who also was Mormon) ever went on any missions during his baseball career.
   30. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:50 AM (#4178033)
Wait, when is he going to do his Mormon mission? That would be incredible if he took two years off in his mid 20s in order to proselytize in Fiji.

That clown question has already been asked, and answered, bro.
   31. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:52 AM (#4178034)
Neither did Brigham's great-great-great grandon. The only recent high-profile athlete (guaranteed pro type) I can recall serving was Shawn Bradley.
   32. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:00 AM (#4178035)
But isn't "bringing it up" a pretty big feature in the LDS Church?


Not when they're running for president.
   33. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:09 AM (#4178038)
I don't believe Dale Murphy (who also was Mormon) ever went on any missions during his baseball career.


I don't know if it's politically correct or even feasible, but it might be fun to construct all-time rosters by religion like Bill James did with first name or Harry Stein did with ethnicity.
   34. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:01 AM (#4178051)
Neither did Brigham's great-great-great grandson. The only recent high-profile athlete (guaranteed pro type) I can recall serving was Shawn Bradley.
I do find it interesting that the military doesn't (AFAIK, ever) allow promising baseball* athletes an "out" from their service commitment. However, Mormon military members are allowed to, and typically do, take a "time out" from their military careers to do missions. Yet the Church allows someone like Bryce Harper to postpone his mission until after his baseball career is completed, even though MLB would surely allow him to pursue his religious obligations without penalty.

Is baseball considered more important than the national defense?

(* The military has been more lenient with football players, for various reasons, mostly involving recruiting).

   35. Tripon Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:11 AM (#4178057)
I find it fascinating that most missions also coincide the player (whether it is baseball or football) switching schools. Almost makes me think the player is just using the mission as an excuse.
   36. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:16 AM (#4178059)
Is baseball considered more important than the national defense?

Oh, most definitely! To put sports in perspective I publish this quote from Graham Taylor former manager of the English football team:

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

   37. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: July 10, 2012 at 08:04 AM (#4178104)
You might as well be talking about Hasidic country & western.


Well, it's not country & western, but there is this guy.


Islamic smooth jazz!


Didn't Miles Davis or someone convert?

You thinking of Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens)? Just be careful, according to the US he is a terrorist.
   38. mathesond Posted: July 10, 2012 at 08:37 AM (#4178116)
There is absolutely no such thing as Mormon rock & roll.


BTO!
   39. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 08:44 AM (#4178120)
RE: Matisyahu - Jews can rap. Because, Beastie Boys. Obviously.

RE: BTO - As I said, there's no such thing as Mormon rock & roll.
   40. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 08:56 AM (#4178126)
And while we're here, what sort of asshat says "my body is a temple" without irony? I mean, what sort of *asshat* says that ####?!
   41. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 10, 2012 at 09:10 AM (#4178136)
Didn't Miles Davis or someone convert?

A lot of jazz musicians converted to Islam in the 50s and 60s. Yusef Lateef, Ahmad Jamal, Idris Muhammad, Jamaaladeen Tacuma, even Art Blakey and McCoy Tyner who were more famous under their birth names.
   42. TomH Posted: July 10, 2012 at 09:17 AM (#4178139)
I say it. Without irony. It's a quote, bro; you gotta bring it into context.
   43. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 09:28 AM (#4178150)
I say it. Without irony. It's a quote, bro; you gotta bring it into context.


Look, if you're arguing that Cap'n Dreamboat was making a biblical reference, and that would *help* his case...

Well, no.
   44. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: July 10, 2012 at 09:41 AM (#4178161)
To be more specific, it's called a metaphor, and it's a rather commonly used one that has been around for a long time at that. But you can't really expect an uneducated dunce to understand a concept as complex as a metaphor.
   45. JJ1986 Posted: July 10, 2012 at 09:52 AM (#4178177)
The only recent high-profile athlete (guaranteed pro type) I can recall serving was Shawn Bradley.


I believe McKay Christensen served between being drafted and turning pro.
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: July 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM (#4178211)

I believe McKay Christensen served between being drafted and turning pro.


So did Jeremy Guthrie. I was thinking more of those guys who were locks to play at the big league level (NFL and NBA types, who go straight to the pros), which isn't the case with most baseball players.




   47. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM (#4178276)
I remember reading a mini interview with Chris Berman in ESPN magazine more than 10 years ago. He listed BTO as one of his three favorite bands!
   48. Tom Cervo, backup catcher Posted: July 10, 2012 at 11:16 AM (#4178305)
I do find it interesting that the military doesn't (AFAIK, ever) allow promising baseball* athletes an "out" from their service commitment. However, Mormon military members are allowed to, and typically do, take a "time out" from their military careers to do missions. Yet the Church allows someone like Bryce Harper to postpone his mission until after his baseball career is completed, even though MLB would surely allow him to pursue his religious obligations without penalty.

Is baseball considered more important than the national defense?

(* The military has been more lenient with football players, for various reasons, mostly involving recruiting).


The church isn't allowing anything really. Mormon boys are pressured to go on a mission at 19, but so long as you're found worthy, you can go at any time after that, and some older Mormon couples do joint missions after their kids are grownup. AFAIK, not going on a mission (especially if you're simply planning on doing it later in life) doesn't negatively affect your standing as a member either -- i.e. you can still get temple recommends, receive church callings, etc.

*source: I was raised as a Mormon, though I am not religious at all.
   49. Nasty Nate Posted: July 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM (#4178315)
I remember reading a mini interview with Chris Berman in ESPN magazine more than 10 years ago. He listed BTO as one of his three favorite bands!


that's a clown listing, leather.
   50. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: July 10, 2012 at 11:51 AM (#4178378)
And while we're here, what sort of asshat says "my body is a temple" without irony? I mean, what sort of *asshat* says that ####?!


Aren't Mormons taught that? Isn't it the reason for no drugs, alcohol, tattoos, piercings...?
   51. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM (#4178409)
I'd imagine that having Bryce Harper do his mission AFTER his baseball career would be more successful than if he did it at the very start of his career in terms of successfully proselytizing people to join the LDS. So it makes sense that he waits.
   52. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM (#4178416)
Going on a mission is encouraged for young LDS males, but not required. Or what Tom said in 48.

I do think there might be an age cutoff though as far as serving one by yourself. Married couples can of course serve one together later in life.
   53. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM (#4178425)
I had absolutely no idea Bryce Harper is Mormon.

Neither did I, nor should we give a flying f*ck.


This. A million times. I've never understood why it matters to so many people (or why it's even interesting to know) what celebs believe or do in their personal time, whether they're athletes, actors, musicians, or even Presidential candidates. It's irrelevant.
   54. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:12 PM (#4178430)
Aren't Mormons taught that? Isn't it the reason for no drugs, alcohol, tattoos, piercings...?


Many people are taught many things. That doesn't mean you have to *believe* that crap.
   55. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4178448)
Many people are taught many things. That doesn't mean you have to *believe* that crap.


Exactly. It's kinda a pet peeve when people say things like "Mormons aren't allowed to drink alcohol." Of course they're discouraged from doing it, but they're adults and it's a free country. They can do whatever the hell they want. How closely people choose to follow the faith of their upbringing (if at all) is entirely up to them. If Harper doesn't drink, it's cuz he chooses not to, not because his religion "forbids" it.
   56. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM (#4178452)
I've never understood why it matters to so many people (or why it's even interesting to know) what celebs believe or do in their personal time, whether they're athletes, actors, musicians, or even Presidential candidates. It's irrelevant.


Details that help us flesh out the personalities of players we enjoy are not irrelevant. Jose Lima's merengue singing ambitions, Glenallen Hill's crippling fear of spiders, RA Dickey's climb of Mount Kilimanjaro, ARod's centaur painting, Pudge Rodriguez's bookshelves full of blank books ... all of these things are interesting, and knowing them heightens my enjoyment of pro baseball.

Isn't Josh Hamilton more interesting because you know his story?
   57. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM (#4178453)
This. A million times. I've never understood why it matters to so many people (or why it's even interesting to know) what celebs believe or do in their personal time, whether they're athletes, actors, musicians, or even Presidential candidates. It's irrelevant.


Well if I believe I'm rooting for people rather than laundry, it's going to matter to me. I don't really care what athletes/actors/etc...believe or do in their personal time because I'm content rooting for laundry but if I wanted to truly root for "good guys" then it would matter.

I think Presidential candidates are a different story though. Presumably what someone believes is going to heavily influence their political stance. For example a truly devout Catholic is likely to oppose gay marriage so if a candidate is a devout Catholic and that is going to inform my opinion of this candidate (obviously as part of the larger body of public statements and votes etc...that is part of the candidate's public record).
   58. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM (#4178476)
#56 - I agree with that. I like knowing interesting tidbits about players I follow too. I just don't find a players religious beliefs (or lack thereof) to be interesting in any way.

Presumably what someone believes is going to heavily influence their political stance. For example a truly devout Catholic is likely to oppose gay marriage so if a candidate is a devout Catholic and that is going to inform my opinion of this candidate


But why would this hypothetical candidate being Catholic make any difference over a non-Catholic who also opposed gay marriage? It's their opinion itself that matters, not WHY they have that particular opinion, isn't it?
   59. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4178490)
I like knowing interesting tidbits about players I follow too. I just don't find a players religious beliefs (or lack thereof) to be interesting in any way.


That's because religious affiliation is usually so banal. It's like finding out a player's favorite color.

But, if there was a Zoroastrian player, I would want to know about it. The question of Koufax playing on the sabbath was interesting and added a great deal of detail to his character. Even learning about Chad Curtis' annoying puritan fervor helped me flesh out my image of him in a useful way.
   60. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4178495)
But why would this hypothetical candidate being Catholic make any difference over a non-Catholic who also opposed gay marriage? It's their opinion itself that matters, not WHY they have that particular opinion, isn't it?


You still seem to be arguing against details. I just watched one of the X-Men movies, and for some reason this was the example that popped into my head: you learn that Magneto's opinion on the human vs mutant struggles is informed by his experience in the Holocaust. Maybe the WHY doesn't matter, maybe it's even irrelevant, but it's interesting and I want to know it.
   61. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:50 PM (#4178496)
That's because religious affiliation is usually so banal. It's like finding out a player's favorite color.


Agreed, which is why I find the Harper/Mormon thing to be uninteresting and irrelevant.

But, if there was a Zoroastrian player, I would want to know about it. The question of Koufax playing on the sabbath was interesting and added a great deal of detail to his character. Even learning about Chad Curtis' annoying puritan fervor helped me flesh out my image of him in a useful way.


K, I'll give you that.
   62. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM (#4178504)
You still seem to be arguing against details. I just watched one of the X-Men movies, and for some reason this was the example that popped into my head: you learn that Magneto's opinion on the human vs mutant struggles is informed by his experience in the Holocaust. Maybe the WHY doesn't matter, maybe it's even irrelevant, but it's interesting and I want to know it.


Alright then. Different people just find different things interesting, I guess. Does it interest you to find out a player is Catholic? Or Baptist? Or Atheist? It doesn't to me.
   63. Tom Nawrocki Posted: July 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM (#4178512)
That's because religious affiliation is usually so banal. It's like finding out a player's favorite color.


I also think people shy away from talking about the players' religion because they don't want to come across as judging them: If you really care about whether Bryce Harper is a Mormon, it must mean you're either anti-Mormon or a Mormon yourself. I think that's the reason a lot of people went out of their way to say they weren't interested in whether Mike Piazza was gay, back when that whole brouhaha was going on.

Personally, I don't think any more or less of Harper because he's a Mormon, but I'm glad to know that about him. I wouldn't think more or less of Piazza if he was gay, either, but I'm interested in whether he is or not.
   64. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:01 PM (#4178516)
Alright then. Different people just find different things interesting, I guess. Does it interest you to find out a player is Catholic? Or Baptist? Or Atheist? It doesn't to me.


Not usually, no. (Atheist might be interesting - does MLB have any confirmed atheists?) As I said above, usually the answer to this type of question is boring. My point was that I think you were confusing boring with irrelevant. And I think we are agreed on this subject, because you backed down from the broad declaration you made in #53. Religious details are not necessarily irrelevant, but they are almost always very boring and can be profitably ignored.
   65. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:10 PM (#4178530)
#64 - Irrelevant may have been the wrong choice of word. Uninteresting (at least to me) would be more accurate, I suppose.

And I don't know about the MLB/atheist thing. Law of averages says that of course there must be several, but I can't think of any off the top of my head (and if I had heard of one, I probably wouldn't remember cuz I'd find the info to be boring).
   66. Dan Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:18 PM (#4178546)
Pudge Rodriguez's bookshelves full of blank books


What's the story behind this one? I don't recall hearing it before.
   67. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:18 PM (#4178549)
Yeah. I think we are in agreement. Take that internet!
   68. Tippecanoe Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4178575)
I've always noticed that Mormon athletes who leave to go on missions at age 19 either fail or disappoint as professionals. There is too much development taking place at that age to catch up later. Somewhere in the multiverse, Shawn-Bradley-who-never-left-for-a-mission is having his NBA jersey retired.
   69. Tripon Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4178584)
Pudge Rodriguez's bookshelves full of blank books



What's the story behind this one? I don't recall hearing it before.


Pudge wouldn't be the first one to do this. From what I understand, its mostly a decorating choice to make an office or study room seem more studious without actually buying a bunch of heavy books. Have you tried to carry a whole box of books? Those shits are heavy, man.
   70. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4178604)
Pudge wouldn't be the first one to do this. From what I understand, its mostly a decorating choice to make an office or study room seem more studious without actually buying a bunch of heavy books. Have you tried to carry a whole box of books? Those shits are heavy, man.


Yeah, a lot of professionally designed "libraries" will have fake or empty books on the shelves, in order to make it look like a library without it being a library. It's not surprising that a baseball player with millions of extra cash would have a designer build in the simulacra of a "study" in that manner. I'd be shocked if many of them have actual libraries - R.A. Dickey being the obvious exception.
   71. Booey Posted: July 10, 2012 at 01:51 PM (#4178608)
Somewhere in the multiverse, Shawn-Bradley-who-never-left-for-a-mission is having his NBA jersey retired.


I don't think this is happening in ANY alternate universe...
   72. Monty Predicts a Padres-Mariners WS in 2016 Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:00 PM (#4178625)
Exactly. It's kinda a pet peeve when people say things like "Mormons aren't allowed to drink alcohol." Of course they're discouraged from doing it, but they're adults and it's a free country. They can do whatever the hell they want. How closely people choose to follow the faith of their upbringing (if at all) is entirely up to them. If Harper doesn't drink, it's cuz he chooses not to, not because his religion "forbids" it.


And that's what I like about his response. Instead of saying "My religion won't let me drink," he shows that he understands the reasons for not going out and partying.
   73. JJ1986 Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:03 PM (#4178629)
Why not just buy real books that you have no intention of ever opening or reading? At least you don't look like a jackass if someone ever finds out.
   74. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4178644)
#73 - I don't get it either. People certainly do buy entire libraries of real books at a time - I remember reading an interesting interview with someone from Strand in NYC about that.
   75. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:15 PM (#4178648)
Here's the original discussion. It turns into a good library/literature thread.
   76. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:23 PM (#4178660)
I don't think the world ever gave Bradley the defender his due. The little bit of on/off floor numbers I've seen from his early pro career were tremendous.

74: Is that on Pudge or his decorator?
   77. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:32 PM (#4178677)
Why not just buy real books that you have no intention of ever opening or reading? At least you don't look like a jackass if someone ever finds out.


I would guess two reasons; cost and appearance. Despite being generally uniform books are not perfectly so. A good fake library can probably look a lot better than a real library if that's your primary goal. I would assume (maybe erroneously) that a fake book costs less than a real book.

I don't think Pudge or anyone else doing this looks bad as long as they don't try to pretend they've actually read them. I mean, if Pudge is giving people tours of his home and saying "yup, I've read all these books, I'm a cerebral guy" then he's kind of a jackass. If he admits "yeah, I just like the look" I don't think that's any different than me having a nice Annie Leibowitz photo on my wall. I'm not pretending I took the picture, just that I like the look.
   78. SoSH U at work Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:36 PM (#4178686)
I would guess two reasons; cost and appearance. Despite being generally uniform books are not perfectly so. A good fake library can probably look a lot better than a real library if that's your primary goal. I would assume (maybe erroneously) that a fake book costs less than a real book.


I thought that someone (maybe in that thread PF linked) posted that fake books actually cost more than the kind with words in 'em.

It should be noted that the original claim that Pudge's library was filled with fake books was provided by Pearlman. That may affect how much stock you want to place in reports of Ivan's stack.

   79. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4178694)
If he admits "yeah, I just like the look" I don't think that's any different than me having a nice Annie Leibowitz photo on my wall. I'm not pretending I took the picture, just that I like the look.


I understand the point, but I do think it's kind of different.
   80. PreservedFish Posted: July 10, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4178752)
I wonder if the books are all fake copies of actual books, or if instead it is a Borgesian dreamland?
   81. tjm1 Posted: July 10, 2012 at 03:46 PM (#4178810)
Dale Murphy didn't go on a mission, but I do remember reading that when he retired, he spent a couple years doing volunteer work for the Mormon church.
   82. BFFB Posted: July 10, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4178813)
My parents neighbor has a big old English farm house and redecorated it to include a library / reading room with oak paneled walls etc. After he put all the books he owned up on the shelves he still had 2 3/4 walls empty shelves so bought the book collection of a recently deceased vicar for some huge amount of money. It adds a lot of character to it as the books are really jumbled and make it look "lived in" rather than "designed", it's also pretty interesting just walking randomly up to a bookshelf and grab a book to see what it is.
   83. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: July 10, 2012 at 03:58 PM (#4178824)
I thought that someone (maybe in that thread PF linked) posted that fake books actually cost more than the kind with words in 'em.

That seems plausible. If you're just buying books and you don't care what's in them you can probably buy 10,000 copies of some remaindered book that's otherwise going to be pulped for next to nothing. Which will probably look good from afar if they are hardcovers without dust covers, even if they're all copies of "Dr. Rodriguez's Thirty-Day Risotto Diet".

You could probably get a bunch of random books some library is getting rid of for even cheaper.

Meanwhile the supply of fake books is quite limited and the only people who ever buy them are people decorating mansions, so I doubt there are bargain deals to be had.
   84. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: July 10, 2012 at 04:59 PM (#4178867)
I could have sworn that was just a reference to Gatsby, but wow. People actually do go for the Gatsby library. If I'm ever megarich I'm going to make one room into a library filled with empty books just as an homage. Then the real library will be significantly larger.

and the only people who ever buy them are people decorating mansions


I'd imagine studios might buy them for sets. But other than those two purposes, yeah. Not much of a market.

My parents neighbor has a big old English farm house and redecorated it to include a library / reading room with oak paneled walls etc.


Awesome. I am jealous.

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