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Buckets of tears, got all them buckets comin’ outa OMNICHATTER’s ears, for September 12, 2017

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LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:45 PM | 127 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:46 PM (#5530172)
HOW WILL THE DODGERS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 01:25 PM (#5530198)
Everybody can relax now.

FLORIDA DOT @MyFDOT

@TimTebow stopped by the State EOC today to thank workers for their emergency response efforts and met with @FDOT_Secretary Mike Dew.

I guess he won't be a September call-up.
   3. phredbird Posted: September 12, 2017 at 01:54 PM (#5530210)
the playoffs being a crapshoot and all that, the dodgers could go on and run the table, but man ... this thing is epic.
   4. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 12, 2017 at 02:00 PM (#5530211)
[3] Totally. There'd be nothing more "baseball" than the Dodgers blowing a 21 game lead, entering the playoffs as a wild card and winning the world series. MLB history is littered with teams that backed into the post-season (2006 Cardinals, 2005 White Sox, 2000 Yankees, etc.) and won the WS.
   5. BDC Posted: September 12, 2017 at 02:15 PM (#5530220)
Meanwhile, the Rangers continue to take tiny steps along the treadmill, and enter tonight's Mariners' game one behind LA and two behind Minnesota for the second Wild Card. They are 72-71. It's been a fun season. They literally have as good a chance to win as to lose every night, but for once that doesn't mean that they're already thinking about going fishing in a couple of weeks. And if they make it to the WC Game, they sure won't have backed into it :)
   6. Mike Webber Posted: September 12, 2017 at 02:58 PM (#5530263)
With the release of the MLB 2018 schedule today, you can turn in your vacation schedule for SABR 48.

"Save the date! SABR will be returning to the Steel City for our 48th national convention on June 20-24, 2018, at the Wyndham Grand in downtown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania." The hotel is about .5 mile walking from the hotel.

The Pirates are home from June 15 until June 24. 3 vs the Reds, 3 vs the Brewers and 4 vs the D-Backs, with no days off.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 12, 2017 at 03:05 PM (#5530268)
The hotel is about .5 mile walking from the hotel.

The hotel is also a historic landmark designed by M.C. Escher.
   8. Mike Webber Posted: September 12, 2017 at 03:21 PM (#5530273)

The hotel is also a historic landmark designed by M.C. Escher.


Now I'm worried about taking the stairs anywhere.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 12, 2017 at 03:23 PM (#5530276)
Now I'm worried about taking the stairs anywhere.

The elevators are even worse.
   10. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:19 PM (#5530324)
I don't even want to think about what the field will look like for the annual BTF softball game!
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 04:45 PM (#5530355)
Kluber with a 2.56 era vs Matt Boyd and his 5.93 era...this feels like a game the Indians are destined to lose in some improbable way. (of course as someone pointed out in other threads, the Indians have been brutally efficient with destroying everyone during this streak)
   12. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 12, 2017 at 06:02 PM (#5530418)
For some reason, MLB.com refuses to acknowledge that the White Sox have been eliminated from post season contention. They list them with a WC elimination number of 3, when in fact it is (now) 0 after today's loss.
There is no combination of wins/losses that can get them to the 2nd wild card spot, mainly because Seattle, Texas, and Los Angeles play a bunch of games against each other and some combination means they end up ahead of the White Sox.

It's a minor thing but they also failed to notice that for the Giants early last week when the same thing happened (games remaining suggested they had a [mathematical] chance, but the combinations of games remaining to be played meant they had no chance).
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 12, 2017 at 06:23 PM (#5530421)
Oakland A's Announce Free 50th Anniversary Game:
The Oakland Athletics announced Tuesday that their April 17 home game next season will have free admission for all fans. The 10:05 p.m. ET game against the White Sox comes on the 50th anniversary of the Athletics playing their first game at Oakland Coliseum.

Just open the gates and let everyone in, put the overflow in the outfield. Could be interesting.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:28 PM (#5530429)
Less than an inning into the game, and the Indians have a 1-0 lead. (leadoff homerun for the Indians)
   15. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:41 PM (#5530431)
I started watching the Indians game, then saw a tweet that Gio Gonzalez had recorded 6 outs all via strikeout and wanted to tune over there, then read further that he was "in hot water again" and decided to stay with a winner.

This guy Boyd has "Detroit's gonna get obliterated" written all over him.
   16. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:52 PM (#5530434)
Gio strikes out Ender Inciarte to pitch 180 innings, thus triggering his vesting option for $12M next year.
   17. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:01 PM (#5530437)
Kluber's just carving these Tigers up. This game already feels over.
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:30 PM (#5530445)
Cozart hit his 20th homerun of the year, he is the 6th Reds to do that (Cubs and Orioles also have 6 guys with 20 homeruns--Wellington Castillo of the Orioles has 19...Cardinals have 2 with 20 hr, but 4 with 17 or more) The most any team has had was 7 players.
   19. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:32 PM (#5530446)
Load bases, ground into DP, fail to score. That's Cub (tm).
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:35 PM (#5530447)
Yadier with another 2 out rbi, double to give the Cardinals a 2-1 lead in the first.
   21. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:47 PM (#5530451)
Lindor just made a ridiculous play, charging to his left and reaching down to pick up the ball cleanly, then spinning and throwing to 1B, with a nice assist from the first baseman. I thought that ball was going into the outfield for sure.
   22. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:49 PM (#5530453)
So, I guess Julio Teheran is good again?
   23. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:53 PM (#5530454)
Surprisingly, Yadier is aging well, there have only been 49 catcher seasons where he catcher was 34 or older and posted a 2.0 War(while catching at least 100 games) Yadier this season is among that group(he'll probably finish the season at about 2.7 war...he's at 2.4)

I know a lot around here think he has no chance at the hof (not just on the merits, but from the voters) but it really does look like each year he's cementing his hof resume, whether or not the stat community agrees with it.
   24. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5530457)
Cardinals MVP, Tommy Pham with a 2 out triple to drive in two runs, giving the Cardinals a 4-1 lead.
   25. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:01 PM (#5530459)
Cardinal announcer, Al Hrabosky, basically just said "if you get a lead against the reds, they fold, because they are so used to losing." And I'm thinking, it seems to me that the Reds are the biggest threat the Cardinals face of a come from behind victory, it feels like every game we've played them in the past decade involves the tying run coming up at some point in time in the 8th or later...(he did say that they beat up on the NL Central, just can't win against anyone else.)
   26. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:05 PM (#5530462)
When did it change from being a pennant race to being a pennant chase?

Were they trying to avoid being racist?
   27. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5530464)
I don't think it changed, I just think some outlets call it that....

But I guess a race implies "leading the pack" while chase implies catching up, and with the wild card, it's about not leading, but being part of the pack.... or not. I don't know, maybe it's just a Nascar influence.
   28. Lindor Truffles Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:12 PM (#5530465)
Just saw a PH intentionally walked and then removed for a PR. In the sixth inning of an AL game. September baseball, everyone.
   29. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:14 PM (#5530466)
And YET AGAIN with a runner at third base the idiot on the mound bounces a pitch at 58 feet which deflects off the catcher's mask. While he's trying to figure out where the ball went the runner scores from third. Do these guys understand the laws of physics? Even a tiny bit?? This happens again and again, yet they STILL call that pitch with a runner 90 feet away. This was a 1-0 ballgame, but now it's a 2-0 ballgame. With competition like this the Indians might never lose the rest of the season.
   30. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:16 PM (#5530467)
That ####### home plate umpire in the Yanks-Rays game is just unbelievably bad. Three clearly missed calls in the space of two batters, two favoring the pitcher and one favoring the hitter.
   31. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:21 PM (#5530470)
For those not paying attention(heck I'm a Cardinal fan and I barely noticed) Kolten Wong has the 3rd highest ops+ among second baseman this year(90 games at second minimum) with a 117...Altuve has 167, Schoop has 131, Wong with 117, Dozier with 115 , Cano with 114 and Lowrie with 112... Wong is having an off year defensively with -2 rfield, and hasn't been healthy, so only has 96 games compared to 130+ for the others so his 1.9 is a behind the 3.0+ that everyone I mentioned above has, but it does indicate that a healthy Wong is probably a 3.0 war player---maybe, of course depending on whether this is his true talent level etc.

Edit: I'm of course being optimistic, since he's never had a full season over 100 ops+, but I'm an optimist at heart...


   32. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:22 PM (#5530472)
The Cubs will probably need to score again this season if they want to win the Central.
   33. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:22 PM (#5530473)
This just in, Angel Hernandez is mind-bogglingly awful.

#30 ... see the above.

You missed the part where he saved the TB manager's ass on a pitching change, for no apparent reason at all.
   34. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:33 PM (#5530480)
The Cubs will probably need to score again this season if they want to win the Central.


About two weeks ago, I had more or less given up on the Cardinals, they had lost something like 3 out of 4 in piss poor fashion, after having a good winning streak to make the season interesting and falling even further behind in the standings (is it farther or further.... when I was young I used to know, now I don't.---further seems more right in my head, but oh well) and I just felt pissed off that the team wasn't able to click for any length of time, even though I think that they are very talented, but just not clicking... (note: I never actually gave up, but, out of respect of Manfred, I considered the option)

Right now, I think the Cardinals almost have to be considered the favorite to win the second wild card spot, if not the division outright.
   35. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5530482)
Jose, professional hitter, Martinez with a double to drive in two more runs, Cardinals take an 8-1 lead in the 4th inning.
   36. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:37 PM (#5530483)
Man, when Jason Heyward actually gets a hit and the pitcher is on deck, you have to get the ball in play.

Edit: Quintana of all people picks up the slack.
   37. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:40 PM (#5530484)
Cardinal announcers loving Dejong's score from first on that double, while ignoring the fact that he should have been on second instead of first, because that single was an easy double if you hustle out of the box.

Piscotty gets a lot of flack for lack of hustle from the announcers(and I mean, literally one time he stutter step rounding second, instead of running full out, and got called for it) yet Dejong, who has been the clear biggest slacker running the base, gets a pass every time. (note: he's not a slacker in the "fans will boo him way." he's a slacker in that he doesn't run out of the box when he hits the ball in the air to the outfield for his first couple of steps)
   38. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:41 PM (#5530485)
So during this streak for the Indians, have they been leading for 174 out of 178 innings? (I probably should look up that stat that was posted in yesterdays thread---I think)
   39. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:43 PM (#5530487)
Cleveland just keeps rolling. Kluber with the 4 hit, 8IP shutout so far. Looks like he's got the Cy Young wrestled away from Sale for sure now. UP 2-0 in the 8th, Tigers with only 9th to bat.
Red Sox rolling up 11-1, Mookie having a nice game.
NY now losing 2-1, go Tampa!

As a Red Sox fan, would really prefer the Astros as this stage. Then again 2 weeks ago, no one wanted to play the Dodgers, now everyone is just smoking them.
   40. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:44 PM (#5530488)
So during this streak for the Indians, have they been leading for 174 out of 178 innings?


I think that's what is most impressive about the streak. Seems like with most win streaks that span more than a few games, the team is winning a lot of close games and staging late comebacks. The Indians are just bludgeoning their opponents most nights.
   41. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:45 PM (#5530489)
Kind of nuts that the three-run shot from Bryant only gets him to 62 RBI on the season. At a glance, his numbers look really good, but the RBI total is just so unusually low by comparison.
   42. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:48 PM (#5530491)
Cardinal announcers talking about Lance Lynn as a free agent and the fact that the team doesn't seem willing to give him a five year deal....and I'm sorry but you gave Leake a five year deal, and Lynn is a borderline ace(or solid number two) either way, you give him 5 years 100 mil or whatever seems right, don't let the years hold you up, you have to assume Wainwright is done after next year(assuming he comes back at all) you have to assume that next year Reyes won't pitch for the first month or two, you have Carlos Martinez, you have an injury prone Wacha, and you have several kids (Reyes, Weaver, Flaherty, Alcantara) coming up, but nothing certain, and you have traded your backup options of Marcos Gonzalez and Leake.... Lynn should be a priority, not a potential luxury.


damnit, 8-3 now.
   43. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:48 PM (#5530492)
The third string catcher for the Blue Jays, Luke Maile, who is batting .140 this season, just handed Zach Britton a blown save.

This is a messed up season for the Jays.
   44. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5530493)
And now the AAA shortstop Urena gets the walk-off single!

Wooo!
   45. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5530494)
I think that's what is most impressive about the streak. Seems like with most win streaks that span more than a few games, the team is winning a lot of close games and staging late comebacks. The Indians are just bludgeoning their opponents most nights.


Agree, every time you look at the scoreboard, the Indians seem to have a 3-0 lead in the third inning during this streak. I can't think of any games in the past ten that the Indians were in a close game.
   46. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5530495)
I'm slowly getting the feeling the Indians are for real.
   47. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5530496)
Twenty straight.
   48. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5530497)
Weird play in the Cardinals game...man on third two out... hard hit ball up the middle, deflected by Lynn(the pitcher) the runner at third freezes and goes back, Lynn makes a throw to first, should have been caught, but Jose Martinez just completely missed the ball with his glove so then the ball rolls past him, and the man on third scores... Martinez picks up the ball and the runner rounds first and thinks about going to second, but then changes his mind, even though there was nobody actually covering second(the shortstop was heading there, but it would have been a footrace) and turns back, Martinez throws it to the shortstop(who again is about 15 feet in front of second base---backing up the pitcher on the comebacker) and then throws it back to first and catches the runner diving back to first base...

Run scored, so the batter did his job, but failed to prolong the inning by being a tad over aggressive.
   49. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:54 PM (#5530498)
Kluber shuts out the Tigers 2-0. Amazing performance tonight.

Oh yeah, 20 consecutive wins for the Indians, too. How about that!
   50. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:55 PM (#5530499)
I'm slowly getting the feeling the Indians are for real.


They're sort of building up that aura the Dodgers carried for most of the season where it got to a point where you went, "OK, impressive, but save some for October."
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:58 PM (#5530503)
Matt Carpenter up, with his fourth plate appearance tonight, he has yet to have an at bat... (bottom of the 5th inning right now, and he is working on his 4th plate appearance) (make that his fourth walk of the night in just the fifth inning)
   52. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:02 PM (#5530505)
Last Cardinal with 4 or more walks in a game, was Colby Rasmus who had five in a game in 2011.
   53. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:04 PM (#5530507)
8-4 game with the bullpen pitching and 4 innings to go....we need more runs.
   54. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:07 PM (#5530512)
That "caught stealing" hurts a bit more now.
   55. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:15 PM (#5530515)
No way that comment was correct.. so deleting it. (must have been "a rookie caveat" that I missed)
   56. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:16 PM (#5530517)
I'm slowly getting the feeling the Indians are for real.

They're sort of building up that aura the Dodgers carried for most of the season where it got to a point where you went, "OK, impressive, but save some for October."


Yeah, obviously they don't want to wind up like the 2002 A's or the 1935 Cubs, but right now the Indians are clearly the class of the AL. Great pitching and defense backed by an offense that's coming into its own at just the right time.

Much as I want to see the Yankees change Girardi trade uniform numbers with Todd Frazier, a World Series between the Indians and the Nats would be almost as historic in its own way as last year's matchup between the Tribe and the Cubs. It doesn't get the same amount of steam that the Cubbies' 108 year drought did, but Washington's last World Series win was 93 years ago, and it hasn't even seen a ####### pennant since 1933. So you might say both of these teams are a bit due.
   57. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:18 PM (#5530518)
Jose, professional basestealer, with a stolen base after his single.
   58. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:21 PM (#5530523)
Yadier with an rbi single, his third rbi of the night, 10-4 now for the Cardinals....they didn't score a run in the fifth inning(only inning that they didn't score a run)
   59. ajnrules Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:23 PM (#5530525)
The Indians game didn't have the dramatics of the 2002 A's, but it'll do for a 20th consecutive win.

Also I'm amazed that Kluber's third complete game shutout merely ties Ervin Santana.
   60. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:24 PM (#5530526)
random ass stat on the Cardinals broadcast... Most times scoring 10 or more runs since August 7th in the NL.(obviously selective endpoint) Cardinals with 7, Reds with 7, Cubs with 6.
   61. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:26 PM (#5530527)
Also I'm amazed that Kluber's third complete game shutout merely ties Ervin Santana.


There is a guy who's fip does not align at all with his era... 4.62 fip, 3.45 era.
   62. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5530531)
The Phillies were down 7-2 going into the 7th inning against the Marlins, so the Fish obliged by putting Kyle Bearclaw on the mound, the same pitcher who surrendered the walk-off home run Sunday to lose to the Braves and thus put the Nats in the post-season. When I tuned back in it was 7-6 Marlins in the 9th, Bearclaw plunks Nick Williams on the foot to put him on, then the next guy promptly hits a stinger into LF that is misplayed by Ozuna allowing Williams to take third base. Then somehow the bases got loaded.

A sharp ground ball to RF scored Williams and PR Cesar Hernandez, but on electron microscope replay a couple molecules of the catcher's mitt touched the runner's hand so he was called out, nullifying the winning run. Now they're in extra innings. This is like the opposite of the Indians game.
   63. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:32 PM (#5530532)
Right now, I think the Cardinals almost have to be considered the favorite to win the second wild card spot, if not the division outright.

Sure thing, boss.
   64. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:36 PM (#5530534)

Sure thing, boss.


Better run differential, and playing better recent baseball than anyone else they are competing against. They are of course behind which helps the Rockies(and Cubs) in the standings....but over the course of the season, using normal sabermetric reasoning, that run differential is more predictive of future success than actual record, it seems like a good argument could be made that the Cardinals have a better chance going forward... of course, again it's only 20+ games and with a 2 game deficit, the logical counter argument is that the difference is too tight, and of course the gap is too large. I can see that.
   65. Gary Truth Serum Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:38 PM (#5530536)
Twins now have homered in each of the first seven innings against San Diego. I believe this ties the 1999 Reds for a major league record,
   66. Random Transaction Generator Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:40 PM (#5530537)
The Cleveland Indians are playing the best and most exciting baseball in the league, they are coming off a World Series appearance, and they were in line to tie an AL record for 20 wins in a row...

...and the announced attendance is 24,654.

That is ####### terrible.
   67. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:41 PM (#5530539)
Matt Carpenter got bored of just watching balls and decided to hit a double this time.... scored another run for the Cardinals 11-4.
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM (#5530542)
Rain is coming down, to the point that I'm not sure that DeJong is going to get a chance to go for his cycle.... of course he needs a triple, so it's not like he is actually going to get the cycle. Still it's nice to see if it can happen.

and instead the Cardinals have pulled DeJong and brought in Sierra instead.
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:45 PM (#5530543)
Sierra treated like the single a hitter that he really is, and strikes out looking bad.
   70. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:46 PM (#5530545)
So Carpenter who hit a double has been replaced, DeJong has been replaced(and our only real shortstop, I guess Garcia will take over that spot) Kelly is in as catcher. I sometimes love September baseball.. I enjoy seeing the kids play and get at least one at bat.
   71. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:48 PM (#5530546)
Minnesota destroying San Diego.... 16-0.
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:49 PM (#5530548)
It's looking more and more likely that the Cardinals will win this game, which is good, because we have almost no chance tomorrow, so we need to pad win total.
   73. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:50 PM (#5530549)
run differential is more predictive of future success than actual record, it seems like a good argument could be made that the Cardinals have a better chance going forward... of course, again it's only 20+ games and with a 2 game deficit, the logical counter argument is that the difference is too tight, and of course the gap is too large. I can see that.

Going into tonight, the Cubs and cards run differential is virtually the same* so there isn't a single system out there that's going to project the cards to catch or pass the Cubs this year**. The wild card lead is even further away, so your initial statement was wrong just based on that (saying the less likely thing as the more likely one).

*And it's only close cause of the 2 blowouts the Cubs took last week - both obviously count but the final difference was still aided by guys not on the 25 man roster.

**Going into tonight, FG has the Cubs with one fewer loss rest of the year (1 more win too, sorry typo) and the Rockies with 1 fewer win.

Regardless of this, the cards can win the division by just beating the Cubs head to head.
   74. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:52 PM (#5530552)
Carson Kelly with an rbi walk..considering how he's looked at the plate so far, that is about the best you can expect from him right now.
   75. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:53 PM (#5530554)
Minnesota destroying San Diego.... 16-0.


Oooh, and they've done that score in every inning thing so far. They are at home so only a chance to score in 8 innings, but still one of those quirky things that doesn't happen very often.
Here comes their chance to score in the 8th
   76. Bote Man Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:54 PM (#5530555)
Marlins bullpen strikes again, blowing a second lead. 8-8 tie in the 11th.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:55 PM (#5530556)
Going into tonight, the Cubs and cards run differential is virtually the same* so there isn't a single system out there that's going to project the cards to catch or pass the Cubs this year**. The wild card lead is even further away, so your initial statement was wrong just based on that (saying the less likely thing as the more likely one).

*And it's only close cause of the 2 blowouts the Cubs took last week - both obviously count but the final difference was still aided by guys not on the 25 man roster.

**Going into tonight, FG has the Cubs with one fewer loss rest of the year (1 fewer game) and the Rockies with 1 fewer win.

Regardless of this, the cards can win the division by just beating the Cubs head to head.


Don't argue any of that, there was a reason that I said "if not the division outright".... I don't really think they are favorite, but I do think that their odds are a lot closer than it was when the season began, or even in late July or whenever it was that the Cubs pulled ahead to 5+ games after the Cardinals shot their load to tighten the division.
   78. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM (#5530557)
A sharp ground ball to RF scored Williams and PR Cesar Hernandez, but on electron microscope replay a couple molecules of the catcher's mitt touched the runner's hand so he was called out, nullifying the winning run.


Hernandez had a clear path to the plate but decided to slide around and tag with his hand. The catchers mitt brushed his fingertips, while his foot was completely past home plate. This Phils team makes the bone-headiest plays.

This was Stanton's third assist of the game.

Then in the 10th, 2 outs, Rhys Hoskins hits a 410' laser to dead center to tie the game up. This was Hoskins' 2nd of the game -- the 1st was an upper deck shot.

Hoskins has 16 HRs in 32 games so far. EDIT: I felt that was worth bolding!
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:57 PM (#5530558)
Oooh, and they've done that score in every inning thing so far. They are at home so only a chance to score in 8 innings, but still one of those quirky things that doesn't happen very often.
Here comes their chance to score in the 8th


Yep, the Cardinals failed in this game in the 5th, but have done it 6 out of 7 innings so far and it's something I've paid attention to(and of those 6 innings, 5 of them were 2+runs)
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:01 PM (#5530560)
Twins fail in the 8th to score.... Still a 16-0 game is a shellacking.
   81. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:04 PM (#5530563)
Votto is a pretty good player, when he gets just a single, you are happy. Although better heads up play by Martinez and he would have been out...or if Wong just sets and throws instead of making a quick panic throw, he is probably out also.
   82. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:11 PM (#5530566)
I just can't believe what I saw, a high ass pop up to the mound that bounces off the pitchers glove for runners on first and second one out.
   83. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5530568)
Dodgers looking at another deficit. Some guy I've never heard of with a homer off Kershaw.
   84. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5530571)
Gameday called Alcantara's second pitch a 99.4 mph curveball.... I'm not sure it's accurately calling the pitches.
   85. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:16 PM (#5530572)
Justin Wilson is just head ######.
   86. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:17 PM (#5530573)
Hey we've said it before, but Justin Wilson sucks.
   87. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5530574)
8-2, that is when your crappy pitchers pitch or the guys you brought up in August that you haven't fully evaluated, pitch.
   88. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5530577)
Hoskins has 16 HRs in 32 games so far.
I hadn't even heard of him until a few weeks ago. I like to think I'm pretty good about knowing who's who on prospect lists but this guy... Who?!
   89. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5530578)
Or guys you know have stuff but have some sort of mental issue going, hoping he figures it out.

I'm ready to give up on him this year completely.
   90. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:21 PM (#5530579)
Utley homers, and the Dodgers tie it up at 1-1.
   91. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:21 PM (#5530580)
Nice, Cardinals victory, considering that a guarantee loss is happening tomorrow, it's something that was nice to happen.
   92. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:24 PM (#5530581)
Or guys you know have stuff but have some sort of mental issue going, hoping he figures it out.

I'm ready to give up on him this year completely.


That is what I mean you pitch your crappy pitchers there... No matter the reason they are crappy, you are hoping for something to give you confidence going forward.... The Cardinals will probably do this frequently over the next two weeks with Oh... the guy has the stuff to get major leaguers out, but has been getting his ass creamed by them this year... pitch him in games you have room for mistakes to see if he can figure it out, if not, when the post season happens, he won't be a factor.
   93. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:25 PM (#5530583)
c'mon Arizona, score some freaking runs.
   94. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5530585)
That is what I mean you pitch your crappy pitchers there... No matter the reason they are crappy, you are hoping for something to give you confidence going forward.... The Cardinals will probably do this frequently over the next two weeks with Oh... the guy has the stuff to get major leaguers out, but has been getting his ass creamed by them this year... pitch him in games you have room for mistakes to see if he can figure it out, if not, when the post season happens, he won't be a factor.


Wilson has gotten a couple such appearances and has been just as crappy as he's been in closer situations.
   95. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:29 PM (#5530588)
   96. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5530590)
I hadn't even heard of him until a few weeks ago. I like to think I'm pretty good about knowing who's who on prospect lists but this guy... Who?!


Hoskins had been a decent hitting, older org filler in the low minors. His power exploded at AA last year (Reading has had its share of freak seasons so he only squeaked
on to some prospect lists). He continued his power surge at AAA, forcing the Phils to promote him. He has a great approach at the plate. We'll see if the swing is a little too long and starts to get exploited. But lordy, the ball jumps off his bat.

He's coming up now in the 13th, with 1 out. Let's see if he gets anything to hit.
   97. cardsfanboy Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:34 PM (#5530591)
Cardinals gained 4 runs on the Cubs in run differential. .... :)
   98. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:37 PM (#5530592)
3-0 fastball down the middle but Hoskins popped it up. What were the Marlins thinking?

Nick Williams follows with a shot down the RF line, normally a triple for him, but I guess they didn't want Stanton to get a 4th assist, so he stopped at 2nd.

Intentional walk to Cesar Hernandez, 2 out in the 13th for Andy White. (Well, Andres Blanco).
   99. phredbird Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:37 PM (#5530594)
well, we've seen this before during the streak, but the dodgers have scored some runs, and they have clayton on the mound. this could be it!
   100. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 12, 2017 at 11:38 PM (#5530595)
Weak AB by Blanco, headed to he 14th, I'm headed to bed.
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