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Burrell to sign one-day contract, retire a Phillie

Pat Burrell came into pro baseball a Phillie and he’ll leave the game one, too.

Burrell, who was selected by the Phils with the No. 1 overall pick in the 1998 draft, will sign a one-day, minor league contract with the club and officially retire a Phillie during the team’s series with the Boston Red Sox in May, the team said in a statement Thursday.

Burrell, 35, will be honored pregame on Saturday, May 19, by throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at Citizens Bank Park.

Burrell played for the Phillies for nine seasons. He ranks fourth in franchise history in home runs (251), eighth in RBI (827) and ninth in extra-base hits (518). His last season in Philadelphia was 2008, when he helped the Phillies to a World Series title. His last hit as a Phillie was a double that led to the winning run in the decisive Game 5.

He spent the last three seasons with the Tampa Bay Rays and San Francisco Giants

You’re #1 Pat!

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Pat Burrell came into pro baseball a Phillie and he’ll leave the game one, too.

Burrell, who was selected by the Phils with the No. 1 overall pick in the 1998 draft, will sign a one-day, minor league contract with the club and officially retire a Phillie during the team’s series with the Boston Red Sox in May, the team said in a statement Thursday.

Burrell, 35, will be honored pregame on Saturday, May 19, by throwing out the ceremonial first pitch at Citizens Bank Park.

Burrell played for the Phillies for nine seasons. He ranks fourth in franchise history in home runs (251), eighth in RBI (827) and ninth in extra-base hits (518). His last season in Philadelphia was 2008, when he helped the Phillies to a World Series title. His last hit as a Phillie was a double that led to the winning run in the decisive Game 5.

He spent the last three seasons with the Tampa Bay Rays and San Francisco Giants

You’re #1 Pat!

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 01:34 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:35 PM (#4105062)
1. If you can't post images without botching the setup, don't post images.

2. Learn what a pull-quote is. Hint: Copy/pasting large swaths of an article, or the whole article, is lots more than should be quoted.
   2. Shooty is in the Trust Tree Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4105065)
Is "Pigeon-Toed" an insult?
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:41 PM (#4105069)
1. There must have been some change recently, because this used to work all the time. I'll try to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

2. Its a pretty short article. How much should I have included?

Thanks for the helpful advice.
   4. thetalkingmoose Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:41 PM (#4105071)
If every fan base was judged by its lowest common denominator, then all fan bases would be viewed the same way.

Yes, there are some knuckle-dragging neanderthal who call themselves Phillies fans, but they represent a tiny portion of the fan base and attract all the attention. I'm really getting sick of how it's okay for everyone to describe us all that way.
   5. phredbird Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4105075)
how do you post an image when you are submitting a story?
   6. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:49 PM (#4105080)
Its a pretty short article. How much should I have included?

Pat Burrel


That would clearly be enough.
   7. phredbird Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:49 PM (#4105081)
I'm really getting sick of how it's okay for everyone to describe us all that way.


didn't phillie fans boo santa claus? i'm not being snarky, but i've heard this before and always wondered if it was true.

but your overall point is pretty valid. we've seen bad behavior everywhere, but philly has one of the worst reps.
   8. Dale Sams Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:53 PM (#4105086)
If every fan base was judged by its lowest common denominator, then all fan bases would be viewed the same way.


Yeah, but different fanbases do stupid things better than others. When the Sox play the A's, do the Sox fans bring out signs that say "Where's your live-in maid Coco?" or "Got booze?"

And on the flip-side Sox fans arn't smart enough to throw batteries in anonymity. They take full-fedged swipes at right fielders from the first row in front of 10 million people. Or throw pizza slices at each other because they're too stupid to remember which team is batting.
   9. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4105088)

but your overall point is pretty valid. we've seen bad behavior everywhere, but philly has one of the worst reps.


Which they have mostly earned. Nothing like winning to rehabilitate one's image though. When the Eagles and Phillies were bad they got a lot of knuckle-dragging neanderthals showing up at the game and they most certainly were not a tiny portion of the fan base at the stadium. Secondly Philadelphia media loves to just seriously hate a bunch of good ballplayers and either the fanbase feeds off that or the media feeds off the fanbase. Either way a bunch of times the locals both fans and media will treat the most visible players nationally horribly.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4105089)
didn't phillie fans boo santa claus? i'm not being snarky, but i've heard this before and always wondered if it was true.

yes, with an explanation
   11. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:58 PM (#4105093)
It's a self-reinforcing cycle. Phillies fans do something stupid and it fits a narrative that makes the news, which helps maintain that narrative. If Royals fans do something stupid people forget it because it isn't seen as a pattern of behavior. It can take decades for a stereotype to stop being reinforced by disproportionate media coverage of things that fit that stereotype.

So we say "It just seems like Phillies fans are worse, from what I see in the news." Not everything gets into the news. It's like saying "Sure, all politicians are probably corrupt hypocrites to some extent, but Rick Perry seems like the worst." Our perception of what sort of thing is a constant problem with society depends on the media outlets we consume and what those outlets find easy to write about. "How can the crime rate have decreased since the 80s? I don't buy it. I see stories about muggings and shootings every day." Yeah, it has decreased though, in an objective reality.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:59 PM (#4105094)
didn't phillie fans boo santa claus? i'm not being snarky, but i've heard this before and always wondered if it was true.


There as a Freakanomics podcast on this not long ago. Apparently Santa Claus couldn't make it so they literally pulled someone out of the stands and put a Santa suit on him. Even the guy admitted "I would have booed myself."
   13. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4105097)
It's a self-reinforcing cycle. Phillies fans do something stupid and it fits a narrative that makes the news, which helps maintain that narrative. If Royals fans do something stupid people forget it because it isn't seen as a pattern of behavior. It can take decades for a stereotype to stop being reinforced by disproportionate media coverage of things that fit that stereotype.

But on the flipside it doesn't take just one incident for a town to get a reputation. Therefore Philadelphia has had to work at getting that reputation for a long time.
   14. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4105100)
Its a pretty short article. How much should I have included?

As it says on the BTF submission page, "Quotes from linked material should be limited in length as much as possible. Post enough to get the point across; don't post the entire article." In this case, I think the article headline says all that's needed.
   15. Tripon Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:08 PM (#4105101)
5. phredbird<="" a=""> Posted: April 12, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4105075)
how do you post an image when you are submitting a story?


Its just standard html code. You can do a quick google and look up image tags if you ever want to do it.
   16. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4105104)

I have to say, headlines like Police: Phillies Fan Assaults, Vomits on Cop and Family don't exactly help Philly's image. And this was from one Phillies fan to another.
   17. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:20 PM (#4105113)
Not that anyone asked but I would have posted just the second paragraph I think... "Burrell, who was selected by the Phils with the No. 1 overall pick in the 1998 draft, will sign a one-day, minor league contract with the club and officially retire a Phillie during the team’s series with the Boston Red Sox in May, the team said in a statement Thursday."

I don't submit a lot of articles but with something this short it can be tricky to not include the whole thing. I also think articles should be submitted with some sort of excerpt, just the headline alone seems spamish even when it is not.
   18. Davo Mastroianni Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:23 PM (#4105115)
I think they should have him play left field as a Phillie.
   19. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:23 PM (#4105116)
First Chipper, now Burrell? It's a good time to be a Met fan...
   20. Bill Liming Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:25 PM (#4105117)
Are the Phillies sure that Burrell wouldn't be a better option at LF/1B right now than what they're going with?
   21. Textbook Editor Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:35 PM (#4105127)
Are the Phillies sure that Burrell wouldn't be a better option at LF/1B right now than what they're going with?


My first thought when I saw the headline.
   22. Moe Greene Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:37 PM (#4105129)
Or throw pizza slices at each other because they're too stupid to remember which team is batting.

Stupid, yes, but this is my all-time favorite sporting event crowd moment.
   23. phredbird Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:48 PM (#4105140)
how do you post an image when you are submitting a story?



Its just standard html code. You can do a quick google and look up image tags if you ever want to do it.


tripon, you've met me. you know i'm a fossil. talk to me like i'm a 4-yr old.
   24. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:49 PM (#4105141)
didn't phillie fans boo santa claus? i'm not being snarky, but i've heard this before and always wondered if it was true.

There as a Freakanomics podcast on this not long ago. Apparently Santa Claus couldn't make it so they literally pulled someone out of the stands and put a Santa suit on him. Even the guy admitted "I would have booed myself."


As jmac's linked article points out:
1. It was an Eagles game
2. It was 43 years ago
3. The inept Santa was a proxy for an inept Eagles management

As others have stated, the Philly fans have more incidents than any other city.

There was a wonderful moment in Phillies fandom history last night. Not ready offensively Freddy Galvis, who is skipping AAA even though his bat would be stressed at AAA, came to the plate with the bases loaded and two outs. The fans start chanting "Freddie, Freddie" to cheer him on. Galvis then got his 2nd hit of the year, a 2 run double capping a 5 run inning. (The Phils had scored 8 runs in the first 4 games). Galvis is the team's RBI leader with 4 now.
   25. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4105148)
First Chipper, now Burrell? It's a good time to be a Met fan...

Get ready for David Wright's retirement announcement when he gets back from the "finger" surgeon.
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:55 PM (#4105151)
As others have stated, the Philly fans have more incidents than any other city.

I think the one that sealed it is when the city had to install a night court session at the Vet during Eagles games.

When you're arresting so many people at a sporting event that you can't transport them all to the regular court, you've got something special.
   27. Cabbage Posted: April 12, 2012 at 03:59 PM (#4105156)
but your overall point is pretty valid. we've seen bad behavior everywhere, but philly has one of the worst reps.


I don't think you guys are nearly as bad as Vancouver fans.
   28. bigglou115 Posted: April 12, 2012 at 04:49 PM (#4105207)
I hope Pat checked carefully to make sure the Phillies didn't sneak in a 1 year option for $100.
   29. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: April 12, 2012 at 05:04 PM (#4105219)
I was at the game that Johnny Estrada hit his first major league homer and the fans gave him a pretty big cheer when he it out to right field I believe. Granted, there wasn't a lot of us at the park. But on the flipside I'd say the Phillies fans are rather adept at doing the whole cheering a player in his first at bat and then will be booing him like crazy by the time his 4th at bat comes around. I used to call it the Scott Rolen salute.
   30. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 12, 2012 at 05:22 PM (#4105235)
McCoy, Galvis was 1-16 at the time of his at bat. The fans know he is over-matched, so they are rooting like crazy for him.
   31. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 05:26 PM (#4105237)
Molitor was booed big time (not by all though) "Welcome back Judas" at County Stadium when he returned as a Blue Jay, though to me his departure was all about the Brewers being total tight wads. I don't think that totally subsided until retirement appearances in Milwaukee.
   32. Metman died today. Or yesterday maybe, Posted: April 12, 2012 at 05:42 PM (#4105246)
Those signs are photoshopped. Burrell received a standing O when he came back.
   33. Greg (U)K Posted: April 12, 2012 at 06:24 PM (#4105273)
My only interaction with a Phillies fan was when I sat infront of a family from Philly who had come up to Toronto to see a Phi/Tor game. The son, who couldn't have been more than 14 (and so about 8 when Rolen left the Phillies) spent several innings on a prolonged "Scott Rolen is the worst human being in North America" rant. Not that I draw any conclusions about the entire population of Philadelphia from that...I've certainly met jerky kids of all persuasions. But sitting through that did cause some permenant psychological scarring and so I hold all Phillies fans personally responsible.
   34. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 12, 2012 at 06:37 PM (#4105280)
Those signs are photoshopped. Burrell received a standing O when he came back.


The people in the photo look like they're standing to me.
   35. phatj Posted: April 12, 2012 at 09:03 PM (#4105342)
I became a Phillies fan as an adult, so I probably have a different view of other fans than most of my fellows. There are a lot of idiots and ########, to be sure, and these guys seem to feed off of the reputation and do their best to live up to it. I'm not proud of them.

But I also don't give a ####. I'm not a Phillies fan because of them. I don't go to the game to be with them. The fans that I do interact with online aren't like that.
   36. Shock Posted: April 12, 2012 at 09:37 PM (#4105349)
First Chipper, now Burrell? It's a good time to be a Met fan...


Chipper?
   37. Posada Posse Posted: April 12, 2012 at 10:42 PM (#4105365)
Video of Phillie phans celebrating their 2008 World Series win. Good clean fun!

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