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1. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 02:31 PM (#66684)
As one of the 6 Expos' fans you mention, I'm torn. Actually I'm a half Expos fan (other half Yankees, go figure) living in Northern Virginia since last July. I want a team here really bad. I used to live in the Northern Philly suburbs and I could hit 5-7 games there, a few at Yankee Stadium (2 hour drive) on weekends also. I hate the Orioles, and they are God awful. At least I'll get watch 20 Yankee games, we should probably win 15 of them. Camden is too far away for a weeknight trip, that is impossible. Yankee Stadium is now 256.4 (mapquest) miles away!
I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
2. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 02:31 PM (#67141)
As one of the 6 Expos' fans you mention, I'm torn. Actually I'm a half Expos fan (other half Yankees, go figure) living in Northern Virginia since last July. I want a team here really bad. I used to live in the Northern Philly suburbs and I could hit 5-7 games there, a few at Yankee Stadium (2 hour drive) on weekends also. I hate the Orioles, and they are God awful. At least I'll get watch 20 Yankee games, we should probably win 15 of them. Camden is too far away for a weeknight trip, that is impossible. Yankee Stadium is now 256.4 (mapquest) miles away!
I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
3. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 02:31 PM (#67927)
As one of the 6 Expos' fans you mention, I'm torn. Actually I'm a half Expos fan (other half Yankees, go figure) living in Northern Virginia since last July. I want a team here really bad. I used to live in the Northern Philly suburbs and I could hit 5-7 games there, a few at Yankee Stadium (2 hour drive) on weekends also. I hate the Orioles, and they are God awful. At least I'll get watch 20 Yankee games, we should probably win 15 of them. Camden is too far away for a weeknight trip, that is impossible. Yankee Stadium is now 256.4 (mapquest) miles away!
I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
4. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 03:14 PM (#66686)
I agree w/your Montreal points Sean. That's why I feel guilty for wanting them down here. I almost feel like a traitor for wanting them to move, even though I've never been to Montreal.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
5. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 03:14 PM (#67143)
I agree w/your Montreal points Sean. That's why I feel guilty for wanting them down here. I almost feel like a traitor for wanting them to move, even though I've never been to Montreal.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
6. scruff
Posted: April 13, 2001 at 03:14 PM (#67929)
I agree w/your Montreal points Sean. That's why I feel guilty for wanting them down here. I almost feel like a traitor for wanting them to move, even though I've never been to Montreal.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
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1. scruff Posted: April 13, 2001 at 02:31 PM (#66684)I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
I'd love to see the Expos in Northern Virginia, but I want them to be the EXPOS. I don't want to root for the 3rd version of the Washington Senators, but I realize the Washington Expos probably won't happen. But to see Vlad and Vidro and Pavano up close and personal 15 times a year would be phenomenal.
But I just wonder if it will be the same if they do move here as the Senators (their AA squad is the Harrisburg Senators by the way, only about a 2 hour drive from Northern VA). I genuinely feel bad for the fans of Montreal, there are more than 6 (I don't think all 40,000 at opening day made the trip from Long Island to watch the Mets, nor the 300,000 watching on TV in French). The team drew fairly well in the early 90s. Baseball could be viable there, I really believe that, and I'd feel bad stealing their team. Not that I'd be the thief, but you know what I mean. You take the Expos away, and that city doesn't have baseball within a 5 1/2 hour drive.
Anyway, does anyone out there really know where this stands at this point? Is there any chance of them coming here? Is there a stadium vote due anytime soon? I still can't get a read on Loria, and I'm wondering what people up there really think of this.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
I was trying to be conservative on O's/Yanks. But what the heck, let's do the math.
Can we say the Yanks are a 95 win team and the O's are a 100 loss team? That'd put the Yanks in the best case scenario I think. Statistically you'd have the Yankees winning just shy of 70% of the games with those assumptions. The formula is (95*100)/((95*100)+(67*62)). Which works out to a .696 win% for the Bombers.
That's part of what make baseball great, on average, the worst team beats the best 30% of the time.
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