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Wednesday, April 10, 2013

Buzzfeed: A Star College Quarterback Couldn’t Throw a Baseball to a Catcher.

This week [Robinson] received the honor of throwing out the first pitch at a Detroit Tigers game. No problem, right? He’s a quarterback. There job is to throw passes. Piece of cake, right? Right? RIGHT?!

Baseball IS harder than football!

Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:58 PM | 47 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:09 AM (#4410516)
Instead of throwing the ball, he should've run for a first down. (Or maybe that only works in Ann Arbor...)
   2. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:24 AM (#4410526)
Some star college quarterbacks are also star pitchers, though I think Chad Hutchinson is the only one to do both things at the top professional level. Recently, anyway.
   3. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:24 AM (#4410527)
Baseball IS harder than football!


I am always struck at how difficult baseball is when I watch athletes from other sports try and swing or throw. It seems that everyone can do a reasonable approximation of a jump shot or a football pass but ask these guys to throw a first pitch or swing a bat and they look helpless.
   4. Greg K Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:38 AM (#4410535)

I am always struck at how difficult baseball is when I watch athletes from other sports try and swing or throw. It seems that everyone can do a reasonable approximation of a jump shot or a football pass but ask these guys to throw a first pitch or swing a bat and they look helpless.

Throwing a football can be harder than one would think for a novice. I'm pretty terrible at it, but I look like freakin' Peyton Manning among British people.

Swinging a bat (and to a lesser extent throwing a ball) do seem like a pretty specialized skills though. One guy I play baseball with is a great athlete, he's competed internationally in track and field. But he started with zero bat-on-ball or throwing experience. It took a hell of a lot of work to get to the point where he could play passable baseball (which he can now do), but it still looks incredibly awkward. Like he consciously has to think about every muscle movement in his swing as he does it. I suppose it's true of all sports, but it seems like a lot of the skills in baseball require the kind of repetition you only get from years of playing.
   5. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:48 AM (#4410543)
It seems that everyone can do a reasonable approximation of a jump shot or a football pass but ask these guys to throw a first pitch or swing a bat and they look helpless.


Actually, most people when they attempt a basketball jump shot will end up performing as well as Robinson did with his baseball throw.
It will look completely uncoordinated and will probably be quite a few feet short of the target (hoop).
I think a baseball throw is harder than a jump shot (to teach a novice), but the target for a jump shot is much more difficult to hit than a pitch.
(If you aren't trying to throw one by a batter.)
   6. Greg Pope thinks the Cubs are reeking havoc Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:49 AM (#4410544)
It seems that everyone can do a reasonable approximation of a jump shot or a football pass

If by "football pass" you mean that they can physically get a football from one place to another, fine. But most people can't throw anything remotely resembling a spiral. You really do have to be taught how to do that.
   7. deputydrew Posted: April 11, 2013 at 09:34 AM (#4410577)
The strangest thing is that these first pitches often look like it's the literal "first pitch" for the celebrity. I'm sure Denard has friends with a softball and two gloves, right? He couldn't be bothered to go to the park (or backyard, to avoid the autograph hounds) and throw it around 50 times? I firmly believe that any reasonably coordinated adult can be taught in 90 minutes to throw a baseball 90 feet and to do so without looking like a putz.

What's the Top Ten in horrible first pitches? Wasn't there a mayor of Cincinnati or something that was just horribly bad?

What about good first pitches? At the risk of veering off topic, GWB at Yankee Stadium has to rank up there, right? Good pitch in a high-leverage situation.
   8. BDC Posted: April 11, 2013 at 09:38 AM (#4410582)
The president of my university threw out the first ball at the Ballpark Monday night, and did it passably well, chest high, a decent toss for a 60-something attorney.

Whereupon Rangers coach Dave Anderson dropped it.
   9. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 09:41 AM (#4410584)
GWB at Yankee Stadium has to rank up there, right?

Yep. I'm not so filled with disgust I can't admit the man could throw a hell of a first pitch. Here's a collection of notable first pitches. T-Rex is the best, of course.
   10. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 11, 2013 at 09:45 AM (#4410587)
It seems that everyone can do a reasonable approximation of a jump shot or a football pass but ask these guys to throw a first pitch or swing a bat and they look helpless.


Usain Bolt recently was in the NBA All-Stars celebrity basketball game. The guy could dunk easily, but he could not at all handle the ball (he kept on traveling). It was weirdly refreshing to find out that I can do an athletic thing better than the world's greatest athlete.
   11. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 11, 2013 at 10:31 AM (#4410638)
What's the Top Ten in horrible first pitches?



Mariah Carey was pretty bad.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4410640)

What's the Top Ten in horrible first pitches? Wasn't there a mayor of Cincinnati or something that was just horribly bad?


Cincinati Mayor Mark Mallory

Mariah Carey

Carl Lewis

Bills QB Trent Edwards

Gary "Baba Booey" Dell'abate

NBA's John Wall

Phillies Bot
   13. DA Baracus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM (#4410648)
He’s a quarterback. There job is to throw passes.


This guy's never seen Robinson play.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM (#4410649)

What about good first pitches? At the risk of veering off topic, GWB at Yankee Stadium has to rank up there, right? Good pitch in a high-leverage situation.


Blind kid throws strike

Cirque de Soilel performer

Iowa Lt. Governor Kim Reynolds
   15. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 11:06 AM (#4410675)
If by "football pass" you mean that they can physically get a football from one place to another, fine. But most people can't throw anything remotely resembling a spiral. You really do have to be taught how to do that.


I assume hand size might play a part. I haven't thrown a football in decades, but for my height (pretty average: 5'10"ish) I've got small hands, & I never was much of a passer. (I also don't have much of an arm, though otherwise I'm a pretty solid glove man. When it comes right down to it, I guess I'm absolutely useless & might as well be killed.)
   16. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM (#4410699)
Holy ####, that T-Rex first pitch is amazing.

eta: I rank Bush somewhere in the bottom decile of presidents, but that guy could throw a first pitch.

As for the Cirque de Soilel first pitch, that's gotta be a balk.
   17. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM (#4410741)
Some star college quarterbacks are also star pitchers, though I think Chad Hutchinson is the only one to do both things at the top professional level. Recently, anyway.


Brandon Weeden didn't make it to the majors, but he was a decent pitching prospect for the Yankees before he became the Browns' QB.
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 11:57 AM (#4410761)

Brandon Weeden didn't make it to the majors, but he was a decent pitching prospect for the Yankees before he became the Browns' QB.


We discussed "QBs as pitchers" recently in a different thread.
   19. SteveM. Posted: April 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM (#4410791)
The writer is overlooking the fact that Robinson was a horrendous quarterback. The one real team he played last year, Alabama, exposed him as an athlete who can't throw at all.
   20. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4410805)
Blind kid throws strike

Cirque de Soilel performer

Iowa Lt. Governor Kim Reynolds


Those first two were amazing, but in the last one you never got to see where the ball wound up. I smell a coverup.
   21. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM (#4410806)
Man that T-Rex first pitch is hilarious. What the hell was that?
   22. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: April 11, 2013 at 12:58 PM (#4410820)
Baseball IS harder than football!

Yep.
   23. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4410828)
What the hell was that?

Besides AWESOME!? I actually went to that Walking With Dinosaurs show at MSG. Without children. With a woman. She bought the tickets. I think that makes me about the coolest dude ever.
   24. cmd600 Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:14 PM (#4410837)
Robinson has had a bum elbow for a while now. Sure, the guy never had the greatest arm, but he could throw a football better than the vast majority of athletes.
   25. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4410840)
Besides AWESOME!? I actually went to that Walking With Dinosaurs show at MSG. Without children. With a woman. She bought the tickets. I think that makes me about the coolest dude ever.


I went to it in Pittsburgh. With my parents.

Doesn't matter - saw dinosaurs.
   26. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4410841)

John Wall's first pitch was the most shocking when I saw it. I don't expect anyone over the age of, say, 45 to throw a decent first pitch no matter how great an athlete they once were, but I think Wall was less than a year removed from being the #1 overall draft pick when he threw that. And he's a point guard; he's certainly thrown a baseball pass at some point in his career.
   27. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:23 PM (#4410852)
I am also frequently shocked at how badly random people do when they are picked out of the crowd to shoot a layup/free throw/3 pointer at halftime of an NBA basketball game. Many grown men in their 30s or 40s can't seem to hit the rim on a jump shot or free throw, and they keep air balling it over and over again. You would think there'd be some trial-and-error there--they'd realize the first few did not go far enough and they'd start shooting it with more force. Plus these are people in attendance at a basketball game, presumably they have played basketball before even if not recently. Is it just nerves, trying to shoot in front of that many people?

EDIT: I also always feel bad whenever they choose a woman to shoot the half court shot. I know there are exceptions, but most women, unless they are really athletic, will simply not be able to throw the ball that far.
   28. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4410854)
I was hoping this was an article about how Bubba Starling is scrapping baseball and going to Nebraska to play QB.
   29. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:28 PM (#4410856)
Blind kid throws strike


Wait, the catcher signed the ball afterwards? Isn't that rather insensitive?
   30. Esoteric Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:28 PM (#4410857)
The blind kid throwing a major league strike is just flippin' awesome. I mean, how is that even possible?

And yes, the T-Rex throwing the baseball (from his mouth!) is probably my all-time favorite "WTF" first-pitch in baseball history.
   31. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4410858)
The blind kid throwing a major league strike is just flippin' awesome. I mean, how is that even possible?

I hear the Angels have contacted his agent.
   32. DA Baracus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4410863)
I am also frequently shocked at how badly random people do when they are picked out of the crowd to shoot a layup/free throw/3 pointer at halftime of an NBA basketball game.


Reminds me of a story.

My gf was at a Braves game with some friends and one of the friends was picked to do one of those between inning games where they have two people throw to see who can throw hardest and the winner gets a prize. The other kid goes first, hits 55 mph or whatever. Then my gf's friend goes and hits something like... 93 mph.

He had neglected to inform them that in two weeks he was reporting to Padres rookie ball.
   33. Esoteric Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:35 PM (#4410866)
He had neglected to inform them that in two weeks he was reporting to Padres rookie ball.
Now THAT'S a dick move.
   34. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:38 PM (#4410870)

I was hoping this was an article about how Bubba Starling is scrapping baseball and going to Nebraska to play QB.


May not have to wait too long. He's 2-26 with 11 strikeouts in high A ball thus far.
   35. WillYoung Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:44 PM (#4410876)
Besides AWESOME!? I actually went to that Walking With Dinosaurs show at MSG. Without children. With a woman. She bought the tickets. I think that makes me about the coolest dude ever.


I went to the same show in St. Paul. My wife bought the tickets one day and told me I was going.
   36. greenback calls it soccer Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:44 PM (#4410877)
The one real team he played last year, Alabama

Oh, boy.
   37. WillYoung Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4410881)

May not have to wait too long. He's 2-26 with 11 strikeouts in high A ball thus far.


He can struggle for one more season and then take over in 2014 when T-Magic finally moves on.
   38. smileyy Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:47 PM (#4410884)
Hand size has a lot to do with throwing a football well as an amateur. I can throw a nice spiral with a slightly smaller football.

Shooting a jump shot using the form you see on tv will probably fall short, because it required a lot more wrist/forearm strength to get the ball to the hoop. I still have muscle memory, but no muscles, so I end up a few feet (or more) short.

I suspect first pitch throwers try too hard to throw a pitch, rather than just playing catch with the catcher.
   39. DA Baracus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:51 PM (#4410889)
Oh, boy.


Well he didn't play QB against Ohio State or South Carolina. So yeah.
   40. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:52 PM (#4410891)
Well he didn't play QB against Ohio State or South Carolina. So yeah.

Ohio State or THE Ohio State?
   41. DA Baracus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4410897)
Ohio State or THE Ohio State?


The Ohio State that was ineligible for a bowl, conference title or ranking during their undefeated season. Oops.
   42. SoSH U at work Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4410902)
The Ohio State that was ineligible for a bowl, conference title or ranking during their undefeated season. Oops.


And was the most unimpressive undefeated team from a BCS school in history.
   43. DA Baracus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:04 PM (#4410907)
And was the most unimpressive undefeated team from a BCS school in history.


No argument here.
   44. puck Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:21 PM (#4410922)
What the hell was that?

Besides AWESOME!? I actually went to that Walking With Dinosaurs show at MSG. Without children. With a woman. She bought the tickets. I think that makes me about the coolest dude ever.


Wow, that T-Rex was awesome. Pretty amazing puppet--send 'em to the Lincoln Center.

At first I thought people were talking about the "Bang a Gong" guy. This was of course, much much cooler.
   45. Karl from NY Posted: April 11, 2013 at 02:59 PM (#4410966)
Throwing a pitch is a lot harder than it looks. 60 feet is a surprisingly long way. MLB pitchers throw just slightly above horizontal, but they're throwing 80-90 mph. For a typical non-athlete who registers about 40, you've actually got to throw upwards close to 30 degrees to reach the plate on the fly.

And throwing a spiral football is hard too. I can only manage it by thinking about every movement, and holding the ball rather unintuitively, with my hand almost past the rear tip and pinky splayed out onto the laces. gef in #15 is probably correct, hand size makes a big difference on spiraling a football, and mine are very small for my 6' frame.
   46. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 11, 2013 at 03:50 PM (#4411025)
And was the most unimpressive undefeated team from a BCS school in history


to be clear, I assume you mean the BCS era (98-present). There have been much worse undefeated teams in 'bcs' conferences pre-98.
   47. SoSH U at work Posted: April 11, 2013 at 03:58 PM (#4411040)
to be clear, I assume you mean the BCS era (98-present). There have been much worse undefeated teams in 'bcs' conferences pre-98.


There was no such thing as a BCS school before the BCS era.

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